rotaryresearcher

ok I've been looking into alot of options with what I'm going to be doing to my s5 n/a


I thought to turbocharge it and change a bunch of stuff would be really expensive so I was thinking I'd probably be better off with a swap. Would it be cheaper to do a 13btt-REW swap? And if so do you guys know the best and most reliable place to get the engine and maybe even the swap(unless I do it myself)? Just wondering. This car is my baby and I plan on having it for as long as I can. I just want to do her right.

mort2002

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try using the 2nd gen FAQ,

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/frequently-asked-questions-2nd-generation-rx-7-faq-fc-494667/

here is the thread.

this is from that thread posted by Icemark:

"Can I swap a Turbo engine/Jspec engine/13BT/etc into my Non Turbo?
Yes, check these links:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...threadid=26647
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/ro...conversion.htm

How do I add a turbo to my NA 13B?
What Turbo kits can I add onto my non turbo RX-7?
There are no longer kits formally made at the time of this post, however there are companies from time to time that do make available non turbo to Turbo Kits. Because most of these companies stop building the kits, or go out of business in short time, it is impossible to keep active links for them.

Most people that turbo a non turbo make their own kits:
Using the stock TII turbo, exhaust manifold with spacer, NA intakes and NA ECU:
http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/naturbo.htm
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...threadid=88540

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...threadid=88758
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=124232
http://users2.ev1.net/~ccoutts/turbo..._a_project.htm

Using the stock TII turbo, exhaust manifold, intakes, ECU:
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/showthread.php?t=37694

Turbo-NA Forum:
http://www.aaroncake.net/forum/forum...urbocharged+NA


Will a 3rd Gen RX-7 (FD) twin turbo engine (13B-REW) fit in my 2nd gen RX-7?
The simple answer is No! The motor mounts are in different locations as well as other issues; however if you have enough time and money it can be done. Much of the project will be custom fabricating all the systems that attach to the engine such as the exhaust, intercooler setup, cooling system and wiring. A standalone EMS is almost required and it is very difficult to control the sequential turbos. Most people go to a single turbo because of this. In general this swap is not worth the time and trouble unless you plan on making more then 450 HP.

Here is a basic write up: http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/FD3S/rew.html

There have been many past threads covering swapping the 13B-REW into an FC:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=724758
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=721243
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=717051
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=718967
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=636334
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=713592
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=712829
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=710959
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=710360
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=699306
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=690691
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=686057
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=628090
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=681876
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=663582
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=674513
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=672656
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=668437

Can I put the RX-8 engine (Renesis) in the 2nd gen?
Well, technically yes. But it is not a simple bolt-in swap. The Renesis uses different mounts, and an entirely different ECU and wiring harness. Anything can be done, but this is much more complicated then swapping any 2nd gen engine into the car. Lots of fabrication, wiring and other things must be done to support this engine. It is generally easier (and probably cheaper) to swap in the 20B three rotor, or the 13B turbo from the Turbo II."

i think that sums it up best..

it all means money, there is alot of money either way, but i know poeple that have done a NA-T fairly cheap.

but there is always a good rule with these cars.

you can pick two of the following.. not three.

cheap - fast - reliable

cheap+fast= not reliable

fast+ reliable= not cheap

cheap+reliable= usally not fast.

Good luck :/

rotaryresearcher

Wow thanks man you gave me a lot of stuff to look through. thanks for the help I'll definately be looking into it. I want reliability and fast which prolly won't be cheap but will it be cheaper than doing all the upgrades to my own engine?




[edit] The second and third link didn't work for some reason.

rotaryresearcher

anyways I know I can the question revolves around price

rotaryresearcher

So I'd be better off with 13BT swap? like TII

mort2002

iTrader: (1)

yea a 13bt swap would be the cheapest and easiest way to go. more of a bolt in. the RE is more of a custom application. you have to have special mounts ect. with the 13bt you retain stock mounts, and use the 13bt wireing harness, ecu, maf, and boost sensor.
there are ALOT of write ups on it in the 2nd gen section, a quick search will yield many results.
hope that helps.
Rob