The car that went 10.8 is a ls7 427 ci with 505 hp or more with minor tunning! Not the lsi version! Look at the badge behind the front tire it means beware!!

 

Hah this thread is still alive.

 

why would u hate anything domestic? seems pretty immature.

 

to anwser this whole thread with the power in my sig. Tomorrow im going to run my friend & his new Ron fellows corvette z06. Trust me it will be taped to so when i get done ill host the video and you guys will decide for yourself

 

awesome !!!! cant wait for this video

 

This thread made my head hurt. Some of the most random conversations ever broke out on this thread.

There are too many factors in an actual race that a dyno won't tell you. I have seen 1100HP cars lose to 500HP ones just because of power band and gearing, not to mention drivers. I think darkphantom racing a Z06 is the closest thing anyone will get to an answer. My bet is that it will be more of a drivers race then anything with his car.

 

a drivers race when the rx7 makes more rwhp than the vette?

 

It will be close a race.

 

Yes.

 

All I know is last time i was at the track for the last hdpe of the season last year, there was a new zo6. Only mods on it were R compounds and a cage. Which was the most beautiful cage I have ever seem I might at, as it should be cause the driver claimed a $12,000.00 price tag.

Anyways, I run my car at low boost on the track, at this boost level I made exactly 300 whp. To put things in perspective I was barely hitting 145-148 on the front straight, and he told me he was easily hitting 165+. I believe it too, I would enter the last straight right on him, then the second the track straightened out he would pull on me like crazy.

These cars are quite amazing, theyre one of the only cars I would choose over the FD for a track car if money wasnt a problem. Gotta love how everybody hates on these though just cause theyre american.

Anybody who follows the alms knows that these cars are no joke. There is a reason they have run every manufactuer off to europe's le mans series. They are simply one of the best production based race cars ever made, and guess what...The z06 was the test vehicle for many parts of the car.

Sure you wont get hand stitched leather interior, but you wont have to sell your kids to afford one.

 

a 475 rwhp fd should *** rape a z06 dude.

 

I guess we will see, won't we? I am a huge RX-7 fan, love the FD3's, but this will be a closer race then you think. A Z06 Corvette, while domestic, is a force to reckoned with for just about any car out there. They can claim to start life with over 500HP at the engine and have an incredible get up and go. They only really weigh about 200lbs more then an FD (if that). The big part that gives them an edge is that the LS7 engine makes around the same torque as horse power, giving them really long gears and really hard pull on the top end.

To give you a little perspective, here is a video of some guys on the BMW forums that I was watching a while back. This video is of a BMW M6 vs a Z06:

BMW M6 vs Z06

Also, here is a good site to get a feel for just what kind of cars you are watching in that video:

M6 and Z06

Until you see a Z06 blow past you when your running 160 MPH, you don't really grasp how brutally fast they are.

 

a guy here, a long time member no less, beat one with just over 400rwhp.

if this guy break boosts and drives the car right he is gonna eat that vette. yummy.

a 475 rwhp fd is a serious car.....i dont thyink u are realizing that.

 

Updates?

 

seriously a 1.3lliter making 475 rwhp and a car that ways around 2600 to 2700 lbs....thats faster then a zo6 i dont care what country you from. Its all about wieght to hp ratio...it makes all the difference. tourque only gets you off the line but doesnt do **** from a roll and a zo6 is fast but why make it seem like a 475rwhp fd is slow? thats a 10 second car if you could hook up.

 

Who said any FD was slow? You guys let your prejudice of manufacturers cloud your common sense. You are saying that a car MAY be able to pull 10s (depending on driver, traction, and power curve), while the Z06 has been proven to pull mid 11's all day long. A difference of .5 seconds at those speeds can happen off a light or a spun tire. Also, the weight difference isn't much, the Z06 curbs in at 3150-3200, but you don't know what it's actual weight is.

I'm guessing from a lot of these responses that not many people arguing in this thread spend much time at the local drag strip. Once you break into the 12's and 11's it's far more of a drivers game then anything else. There are a few things to consider:

Where will they be racing? On a street the Z06 will have a little advantage from the extra weight and extra torque to fix tiny mistakes. The FD needs to get into boost to pull hard, but too much power will just blow the tires off on a bald back country road.

When will they be racing? The ambient temp will cause the FD driver far more trouble then the Z06 driver due to the engine temp we already deal with and IC temp. The Z06 is only going to lose a couple HP even when it gets warmer.

What fuel will they be running? The Z06 can fill up at any pump and make the numbers it claims, most high power FDs dyno runs are done with additives or race fuel.

How far is the race? A Z06 will eat the FD alive on the top end due to gear ratios and an extra gear.

The list goes on and on.

 

That's dandy, but there is far more to a race then the fact that someone, somewhere, beat one before. Also, are you talking from a dig or roll on, because it can be a big difference in outcomes. In general, Corvette drivers are not as good as other drivers due to the demographic that drive them. More Corvette drivers buy them for the name then to actually go fast. If both cars are driven right and neither one has advantages, it's going to be close.

I know what 400HP is like, I know what 800 and 1000 HP cars are like. I grew up with street racing in the country. No stupid Hondas pulling 13's. We are talking sub 9 second cars just to get them to let you stage. My first car was a 400ci big block V8. Even my mom owned a 68 Camaro SS with a 383 stroker that kept breaking motor mounts and flipping over in the engine bay. Heck, I worked for a few years in the booths at SEMA and got to check out REALLY powerful street cars (Venoms and such).

I would like nothing more then for the FD to show the Z06 who's boss, but I don't want it to be some retarded *** Corvette driver going against an exceptional FD driver and everyone claiming a win. I want to see both cars run perfect and see where they really stack up. My gut tells me the FD could edge the Z06 out by almost .5 seconds on a sticky track, but I have no idea where they are going to race. I just hope it's not another waist of time roll on.

 

first off whats the point of the above?
.5 seconds is a **** load. several cars

 

He said he didn't think I realized what power a 400HP car had.

Exactly, but thats if the launch goes perfect, the car pulls as expected, there isn't excessive spin in second, and that the Z06 pulls around 11.5. There are no guarantees since all we can do is speculate.

That half a second could be consumed by even a slight hitch in his reaction time. Like wise, the Z06 could bomb and the FD could run perfect and end up winning by over a full second or more. That's the point.

 

to the contrary to what u posted i actually do have dragr acing experience and thus know the importance of gettign off the line. HOWEVER we arent ******* talking about drag racing. we are talking street racing from what i can tell. havent said that i am assuming that its roll racing.

 

I don't think we know what were talking about: