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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Yes, Ranger can drive his azz off in a ZO6. He has hundreds of passes in his Z's and has it down to exact shift points, air temps considered, etc, etc (and ZO6s are hardly slow to begin with). DRs on a stock Z....10.85 @ 129.5 mph is moving.
He is, without a doubt, the best drag ZO6 driver on the planet.

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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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yeah i saw the vid not to long ago of that 10 second pass on a bone stock z06. That guy can certainly drive the hell out of a car
Old Mar 10, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Okay, I have a question. You guys refer to a certain "trap speed." What is that? is that your speed at the end of the 1/4 mile?
Old Mar 10, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Okay, I have a question. You guys refer to a certain "trap speed." What is that? is that your speed at the end of the 1/4 mile?
Yes.
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
He is, without a doubt, the best drag ZO6 driver on the planet.

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...at the best track on the planet.
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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thats it. after reading all this, im sellin my 20b and gettin a new z06. Time to pay approx 80k for a CHEVY. lol Stomp the heartbeat
Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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it's intereting....after reading through the entire 8 pages i'm surprised nobody has brought up variations in whp figures due to difference in types of dyno's, temperature during dyno pull etc

the OP could be making 405rwhp on a mustang dyno, which would be around 450whp on a dynojet. c6z's dyno around 440-470whp on a dynojet, but then again, every dynojet reads different as well, ditto for every mustang dyno, dyno dynamics, and dynopacks.

apply this to everybody jumping arguing "i know this FD making 4xx rwhp" etc....it could change some of the arguments on this thread.

unless 2 cars in comparison have been dyno'ed on the same dyno, same day, back to back, there are too many variations to based arguments on the whp figure. trap speed is the true indication of power, and if one of the cars in comparison doesn't go to the track frequently enough to figure out the trap speed, then racing the cars off a rolling start (such as what the OP has done) will yield a good indication of which car's faster.

there are variations in the relativity of trap speeds as well....for example LACR here in southern California is famous for taking ET's and trap speeds out of cars' times...e.g. an Evo IX can barely break high 13's here and trap at 100mph...on a good track a IX is capable of low 13's @ 104, with the fastest stock IX time/trap @ 12.7 & 107mph.

bottom line is all the arguments in attempt to discredit what the OP described has happened are kind of pointless - we're just running in circles. what happened already happened, and it happened with consistency. unless the OP is lying....which he has no incentive to.
Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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wow, nice first post
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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I think it's really impossible to tell unless the cars race under the same conditions at the same time. That being said I've heard of the new z06 running 10's and trapping 130, however I've never seen them actually do that. Same with 400rwhp fd's. At our local track I've never seen a c6z06 trap higher than a 120mph. Track, temp, and humidity play a huge factor. People have a bad habit of taking the best example and making that the rule. Which is never a good idea.
Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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wow, nice first post
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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i know this thread is not fresh but 400 rwhp rx-7 should not have any caind of problem takin zo6 unless driver is re****
Old Mar 17, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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i pulled on a z06 with a around 4000whp, lightly tuned 13b with a streetport and a t78.
Old Mar 17, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by woods420
i pulled on a z06 with a around 4000whp, lightly tuned 13b with a streetport and a t78.
i pulled on a 5000hp z06 with my d15 civic
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 01:04 AM
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i pulled on a 5000hp z06 with my d15 civic
Must've been some mad vtec controller on that **** dawg.

I seriously loled at the 1.2 G on a skid pad thing though, put the Z06 on 225s front and rear and see how it does.
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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stock twins with load bearing dyno 380 wheel HP, a nice torque curve and stock body parts should beat a stock C6 Z06 from a roll. The best mph range for the FD to beat the C6 Z06 would be between about 45 mph and 110 mph.

add an extra 80 HP or so to the FD for having
giant aftermarket parachute front end
single turbo with poor torque curve
laggy oversized intercooler
under hood hot air sucking open air cleaner

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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It all boils down to driver if a 400whp FD beat a C6Z06....the matter of fact about it is C6ZO6's have trapped 125mph+. Look at what most 400whp FD's run 121-122mph at best. JMHO
Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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I only have 320 whp and i know on a roll I can get to 120 pretty damn quick without thinking about it. Truth of the matter is all driver. Did any of you guys watch the forza motorsports showdown on speed channel. The c6zo6 only ran like a 12.7 best during the drag portion and that was a modified one. I think a well tuned 350whp rotary with a little weight reduction and right suspension and tires will stomp on a c6zo6. Which is all very attainable for less than the sticker price of the c6zo6. Be realistic the average driver doesnt know how to keep the power to the floor in a z06, more than likely they have money and wanted a fast production car to feel some kind of void and all the know how to do is step on a gas peddle. If you have 350+hp in a rx-7 its because you put it there and you know how to drive it and hold it to the floor. So if the two come accross eachother I wouldnt be surprised if a rx-7 similair to mine with 320 couldnt take it out.
Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by twomucboost4u
I only have 320 whp and i know on a roll I can get to 120 pretty damn quick without thinking about it. Truth of the matter is all driver. Did any of you guys watch the forza motorsports showdown on speed channel. The c6zo6 only ran like a 12.7 best during the drag portion and that was a modified one. I think a well tuned 350whp rotary with a little weight reduction and right suspension and tires will stomp on a c6zo6. Which is all very attainable for less than the sticker price of the c6zo6. Be realistic the average driver doesnt know how to keep the power to the floor in a z06, more than likely they have money and wanted a fast production car to feel some kind of void and all the know how to do is step on a gas peddle. If you have 350+hp in a rx-7 its because you put it there and you know how to drive it and hold it to the floor. So if the two come accross eachother I wouldnt be surprised if a rx-7 similair to mine with 320 couldnt take it out.
I believe the c6 on forza is only that. W/ terrible driving to say the least. G
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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It all boils down to driver if a 400whp FD beat a C6Z06....the matter of fact about it is C6ZO6's have trapped 125mph+. Look at what most 400whp FD's run 121-122mph at best. JMHO
No 400 rwhp RX-7's trap 125 plus, 360 rwhp trap 120-121.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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I think it's really impossible to tell unless the cars race under the same conditions at the same time. That being said I've heard of the new z06 running 10's and trapping 130, however I've never seen them actually do that. Same with 400rwhp fd's. At our local track I've never seen a c6z06 trap higher than a 120mph. Track, temp, and humidity play a huge factor. People have a bad habit of taking the best example and making that the rule. Which is never a good idea.

The new C6 Z06 1/4 times and speeds are relative to the density altitude. They all can run a high 10 on drag radials if your air is -2000 ft, yeah 2000 ft below sea level. Run them at +2000 ft and they're 12 second cars.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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125 WHP on street tires can destroy a ZO6 in the 1/4.























on any modern 600cc sport bike
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Let's just make it easy. Use the trap speed calculator as that's a good estimate for HP. Use the calculator for a reality check of HP numbers too if you've been to the strip.

http://www.pro-system.com/calc.html


If you wanted to go one step further, here are some correction factor charts for forced induction and NA.

http://www.wallaceracing.com/altitudecorrection.htm


Here's how you would figure density altitude for the charts in the above link.

http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_hp_dp.htm
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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125whp??? you crazyy!!!!!! 350whp on a second gen thats about it



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