jay3

reading this post gives one a classic example of "C6 Z06 d*ck in your mouth"

jk, don't flame me

Mr rx-7 tt

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So is any race, nothing new. I suggest you read the original kill and get back with us.

Not really. Depends on the corners, the cars, the drag aero, ie. wing downforce , the temp, the power bands, the hp, etc. etc.


A slick isn't an ET street. Secondly it's getting to the point where the street tires are just about as sticky as the ET's.



You make the mistake assuming they are trapping equal or lower numbers, obviously they aren't. Cars pull different through speeds as well. One might pull in a race on the other at lower speeds and as the speeds climb the opposite happens. Watch drag races, happens all the time.


Secondly, turbo cars also rely on charge temps. When a car is running the 1/4 it's intercooler is heat soaking, which isn't as big of a problem with a N/A car. Peter Farrell said they would see on average a 20 rwhp difference in power caused from heat soak on the dyno vs driving down the road, another factor which is never taken into account.


Race a new Z06 and get back with us.

ProjectD

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Bring me a new z06 to race and I will
I did read the original post and I didn't care to reply to that thread then I don't really care now. I'm threw arguing with yellow r1 cheerleader. get a life. this is stupid

Mr rx-7 tt

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Yellow R1 cheerleader? Yellow r1 posted his experience and his actual race in response to the posters question. Because I know the car and you disagree with the outcome, I'm a cheerleader and need to get a life?

Hint: Maybe you shouldn't come and argue and post in the kills section and then when you get handed facts cry and whine and tell others to get a life and how stupid it is?
Do you play tennis and then when you get beat tell your opponent how stupid the game is and he needs to get a life? Brilliant.

matty

i hate this place. kids these days are ******* clueless and have enormous egos. no wonder we are losing a 1/3 of them to drug overdoses.

matty

dont u get it yet? these kids drive fd;s that are pieces of **** that are on their 4 engine and 5th owner. the days of good running fd's like brooke;s and so on are gone. now there is just a few of us sprinkled in that have a clue. and when we speak of our experiences we get called bs on by kids.

Madee

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It is equally frustrating dealing with these "younger" people in the FS sections. Non-payment, go back on their word to sell at a given price, parts not as described, etc.. Resigned to just buy new from parts stores and sell on Ebay.
Sad state of things.

turbodrx7

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Dont let your head get to big now, you might not be able to fit into your FD anymore.

-Austin

Montego

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well actually he is giving you the benefit of ignoring physics due to your age.




except that he is giving HIS own personal experience and backs it up with numbers and logic. And you basically give him the BS flag neglecting any facts. That will get anyone a little worked up.

Back up your claims with some logic and facts and we will listen.


Edit: I'm not bashing nor I want to get into a debate I'm just pointing things out from a 3rd person perspective

Montego

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because torque is a function of HP.

in lamer's terms: Torque is the amount of work one can do. HP is the amount of work that one can do over time.

let's say you have hired two workers to move potato sacks from a warehouse into a truck. Let's call them Joe and Mike.

High torque:
Joe is a strong guy he can pick a 100 lb potato bag. But he is is slow. It takes him 1 full minute to pick up that bag, walk it over drop it and walk back.

High HP:
Mike is not as strong, he can only pick up the 60 lbs bag. But he is fast though. It takes him 30 seconds to pick up that bag, walk it over drop it and walk back.

Now after an hour's worth of work: Joe has hauled 1000 lbs and Mike has hauled 1200 Lbs. Who did more work? Or who is faster? Mike of course

Of course this is just basics in the real world there is such a thing as area under the curve, weight, gearing.

ProjectD

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Ok high speed, try to stay with me here. Yes you are yellow R1's cheerleader...All my posts toward him were just that. questions or comments for HIM. Yet you continuosly feel the need to come back and repeat everything he says.

This is where i want you to read VERY carefully.....I never called BS on his kill.... Street racing is steet racing. I don't need to say anythign can happen because that is obvious.

I have no problem with racing, loosing or whatever. I Do however think It is stupid to argue over the net. Why don't you go back to my origional posts in this thread And re read them.... let it soak in.... I said I have never raced a c6 Z06. but I think you will need more than the mid 300 munber the poster above me stated. Ywellow R1 has 400hp. and he pulls them guess what 400 is more than 360 and Again I didn't race the flag on him.

Then I argued that Power to weight is not the ONLY facor that decides a race. yes it is important as I have pulled cars with over 100 hp over me. If you actually paid attention to what I said you would realize that. And I was not talking about yellow R1s races just racing in general.

Now go back and quote my posts saying physics don't matter or you need 500hp to beat the vett.....you can't because I didn't.

I did however ask some question as to the performance of the car. I don't have a problem admitting something I don't know. And I don't know what Z06's can do.

jic

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5 pages...goddamnn
cheerleader? WTF is goin on

93ttwankel

Porsche 997 with a few mods vs 07 ZO6 with headers no cats.
http://s179.photobucket.com/albums/w...atedvideos.flv
6000ft elevation- From a 35-40 roll
I sure thought the Porsche would take it...

Mr rx-7 tt

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Ok low speed stay with me here. This is an open forum with facts. Yes I answered many of the questions because I know the car very well...actually I built the engine.


This is where I want you to read VERY carefully. I never said you did call bs on his race did I?

Is that why you continue to do it?

Why would I go back and re-read the same material I read the first time? I know exactly what you said... I suggest you go back and read what I said in my posts. You are the one with the comprehension problem here. I never even mentioned physics...

BTW: You did question an FD vs a Z06.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong point...neither is remembering what you yourself just wrote.

Yellow R1

Nobody is anybody's "cheerleader". An unwise comment, at best. Some experienced rotary guys simply agreed with the fact that I pulled a ZO6 with 405 rwhp. Big deal. Because some clowns on this forum can't CROSS MULTIPLY, it doesn't make it our problem (and yes, we all know there are other factors impacting acceleration so pls.....don't try & educate any of us about gearing, drag coefficents, torque, etc - most of us knew this LONG ago). Example: Mr. RX-7 TT has been building, porting, running nitrous, & generally modding 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Gen rotaries since before your were born (he's an example of someone who knows his cars - he's drag raced just about every fast car made or sold in the US & has owned (and built) 60's Muscle cars, Porsche 928S, a 911 Turbo,....you get the hint). There are many people on this forum that know what they are talking about - if you ask, they will answer. Act obtuse, you get an obtuse answer - same for anyone. Its human behavior . See ya - no harm done.

-Matt

ProjectD

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Yes this is an open forum and it's great that you built a strong FD. good for you. I still wasn' talking to you. You weren't even in the car durring the races. And I don't know how many times i gotta say this But my post was not about yellows races or his CAR.

I'm trying to prove a point, And yellow R1 said it pretty well here... But Not everyone knows that. Hell at one point I had no idea what any of it meant.

No you didn't mention physics...nor did i mention Yellow R1 race,or how well you know his motor. Can you comprehend that I Don't care what that FD is capable of?

hmmmm..this whole thread is about FD vs Z06... And that was not my only question, Like I said I don't know what those things can do.



Speak for yourself. Understand this, My reason for posting in this thread was not to get into a grudge match with anyone, I posted here to say power to weight is not the ONLY factor for every race. This is going nowhere fast.

ProjectD

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I read your origional post when you first made it. Didn't doubt it then and I don't doubt it now. The Cheerleader comment may have been "unwise" but i'm sure you see were i'm coming from. Again I'm not knocking him or his skills as a mechanic/racer. And yes many people learned about drag, gearing ect, long ago, But there are always new people that don't know.

And Like I mentioned I'm not here to question Mr Rx7s experience. His background doesn't change my reason for origionally posting here. My FD wouldn't be where it is today if it weren't for the info i got from this forum and the people who contribute to it.

Act abtuse you get an obtuse answer...
That was the spark that fueled my continued involvement in this thread. And the main reason is because my posts were not about your car(hell, I don't even know anything about it). But from the info I was sharing(granted, it may be commonly know info) you & mr rx7 assumed I was talking about you. No harm, no foul.

Mr rx-7 tt

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When you question facts or make comments it's open season...If I would have agreed with somone else I would have jumped in as well. It's not cheerleading.

You also did question how an FD would be able to beat a Z06.


Is this or isn't this your quote?

No hard feelings just disagreement.

jay3

i bet the original poster made this thread just so an argument would break out! anyone else knows just as well as i do that any thread on these forums containing the key words v8, vette, corvette, z06, c6, etc. usually ends in no good :]

Jodeny

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LOL- I enjoyed reading this. I thinbk we should open an "*** Broke and Under 21 Section" that you can only access if you enter the number of a maxxed out credit card....

Medium Speed,
John

matty

**** what really boggles my mind is that when i was a newbie (we all were at some point) and young i listened a **** load more than i posted...seems the exacty opposite is done these days. thats the root of the problem.

jay3

this is because the more posts you have, the cooler you are in the eyes of other forum members! and anyone knows the best way to accumulate a large amount of posts is to join in on a flame war! by the way, while i'm at it.. everyone everywhere sucks!

ProjectD

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Ok fair enough...what facts did I question or disagree with?

I don't really see the point of this one but to answer your question, Yes I did post that. I asked a question... You answered it with the following reply (which I didn't dispute) Like i said I don't know those cars( vetts). Hell I've only seen a handfull of 400+hp FDs including mine.



Likewise, no hard feelings. I can honestly say I have learned some good info In this week-long thread alone lol.

jic

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sidebustin

darkphantom

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470hp to kill a new z06


Roland (outcast) ran a new z06 on the track and lost by 1 tenth of a second and the z06 trap speed was 3mph quicker.

outcast is around 430hp