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I love my 12A but I also don't like listening to sweaty women gripe. I'm silly that way.Will keep the updates coming.
As far as that piece... based on age, etc...
NSU Ro 80?
Tim and Mike win the prize.
One end is the Redneck Flywheel Nut Removal Tool:



The other end is the OCD Calibration Tool. Can't show the photos of how that works, it's proprietary.

I'll be using the RFNR/OCDC for the 12A rebuild and to reset the OCD calibration on the White One II project.
Taran, definitely chase down and repair ALL vacuum leaks first, you will just be wasting time and creating massive frustration if you move on to any other tuning aspects with even a small vacuum leak. Chances are on a car that hasn't seen a lot of recent maintenance there will be a few, but they're easy to find and satisfying to fix, that instant "ah ha" moment.
Concerning the AC, on Wisconsin FB's "it needs servicing" means remove it and don't look back. You lose 100 pounds of permanent luggage and the engine bay is much easier to look at and work around. One week of hot weather a year just doesn't justify carrying around all that baggage, much less the regular time and expense you'll need to maintain that 30 year old system. As far as GF's go, not having the AC is your convenient excuse for going fast - you need to keep the air circulation up.
One end is the Redneck Flywheel Nut Removal Tool:



The other end is the OCD Calibration Tool. Can't show the photos of how that works, it's proprietary.

I'll be using the RFNR/OCDC for the 12A rebuild and to reset the OCD calibration on the White One II project.
Taran, definitely chase down and repair ALL vacuum leaks first, you will just be wasting time and creating massive frustration if you move on to any other tuning aspects with even a small vacuum leak. Chances are on a car that hasn't seen a lot of recent maintenance there will be a few, but they're easy to find and satisfying to fix, that instant "ah ha" moment.
Concerning the AC, on Wisconsin FB's "it needs servicing" means remove it and don't look back. You lose 100 pounds of permanent luggage and the engine bay is much easier to look at and work around. One week of hot weather a year just doesn't justify carrying around all that baggage, much less the regular time and expense you'll need to maintain that 30 year old system. As far as GF's go, not having the AC is your convenient excuse for going fast - you need to keep the air circulation up.
Marco I've got you down for honorable mention on the Redneck Flywheel Nut Removal Tool. But the free rat's nest goes to Tim since he identified it first.
"Mike" is Mike Simonovich, who correctly identified the opposite end of the tool as an OCD calibration device. Mike will also receive a free rat's nest at the August OGTA meeting.
"Mike" is Mike Simonovich, who correctly identified the opposite end of the tool as an OCD calibration device. Mike will also receive a free rat's nest at the August OGTA meeting.
Nice to learn that bit of trivia. Neat tool.
Probably found the idle problem. Gonna be dramatic.
Checked all the small tubing. All good. So I was ready to start looking for the throttle adjust screw on the Nikki (sing along from page 74 of the carb manual) so I undid the air filter housing a bit to get more light under it. Something interesting happened.
The air pump hose pulled up cleanly from the air hose. Too cleanly. Then I looked at the hose - old. Not ever replaced that I can tell. Meanwhile everything else in the nest was pretty well seated and didn't react to carb cleaner. That by itself shouldn't be an issue because it's sucking air even if that leaks.
Then I looked at... the belt to the air pump/water pump. An inch of play. Worn. So I'm looking for that after I post this. So if the belt is that loose, then the vacuum is dubious and therefore it could effectively be a 'leak' across everything else. Toss in the waterpump and we have a belt that I WILL CHANGE ASAP.
I hear ya, though we have had a record summer. 2 months instead of 1 week, but the point is valid.
I just haven't built up the confidence to track all the hoses down and pull them out without destroying them. Do people just cut the hoses at the or what?! (never had to remove the AC before because all previous versions had it done already).
Hatch struts and window guides showed up in the last 30 minutes of daylight (before the pizza got here). Hatch now no longer needs Cialis, but I have to look at the wiring on that passenger strut to make sure that the defroster works for winter. Lower priority.
Probably found the idle problem. Gonna be dramatic.

Taran, definitely chase down and repair ALL vacuum leaks first, you will just be wasting time and creating massive frustration if you move on to any other tuning aspects with even a small vacuum leak. Chances are on a car that hasn't seen a lot of recent maintenance there will be a few, but they're easy to find and satisfying to fix, that instant "ah ha" moment.
The air pump hose pulled up cleanly from the air hose. Too cleanly. Then I looked at the hose - old. Not ever replaced that I can tell. Meanwhile everything else in the nest was pretty well seated and didn't react to carb cleaner. That by itself shouldn't be an issue because it's sucking air even if that leaks.
Then I looked at... the belt to the air pump/water pump. An inch of play. Worn. So I'm looking for that after I post this. So if the belt is that loose, then the vacuum is dubious and therefore it could effectively be a 'leak' across everything else. Toss in the waterpump and we have a belt that I WILL CHANGE ASAP.
Concerning the AC, on Wisconsin FB's "it needs servicing" means remove it and don't look back. You lose 100 pounds of permanent luggage and the engine bay is much easier to look at and work around. One week of hot weather a year just doesn't justify carrying around all that baggage, much less the regular time and expense you'll need to maintain that 30 year old system. As far as GF's go, not having the AC is your convenient excuse for going fast - you need to keep the air circulation up.
I just haven't built up the confidence to track all the hoses down and pull them out without destroying them. Do people just cut the hoses at the or what?! (never had to remove the AC before because all previous versions had it done already).
Hatch struts and window guides showed up in the last 30 minutes of daylight (before the pizza got here). Hatch now no longer needs Cialis, but I have to look at the wiring on that passenger strut to make sure that the defroster works for winter. Lower priority.
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The air pump doesn't generate engine vacuum. Any leak at the air pump or air filter housing is always at atmospheric pressure (never vacuum). It's good to update, but don't focus on it to fix your problem.
Wow, 3,333 posts. Cool.
Wow, 3,333 posts. Cool.
Your voice of reason is very much appreciated.
But yeah, picking up the belt tomorrow anyway because I don't want the slippage on the water pump at high rpm. My driving does include relatively short high RPM windups when accelerating but Rexxy lives around 2-3K RPM most of the time (I redline her on purpose at times to keep her clean). Hell, she does 75 at around 3500 in 5th. Still... I can almost feel hotspots on her now that I've seen her belt issue and I'm kicking myself for not having looked at it earlier.
As far as the idle - I'm now confident that it's not a vacuum issue. Time to play with a screw tomorrow. Picking up the OEM thermostat tomorrow as well.

May rip out that AC this weekend as well.
Here you go Ray, a Miata with a 12A. Right in Braselton, too!
atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/3153983922.html
atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/3153983922.html
That's a nice Miata Brett and the 12A is certainly a big improvement over the original boinger, but why buy a Barbi car FB wannabe when you can get a real FB?
In fact you could get two really nice FB's for what he is asking for the Miata. Kudos for the 12A though, I'd love to see that car at an OGTA meeting.
Taran, removing the AC is pretty much straight forward, just take your time and remember you are working with a bunch of aluminum connections so you need to use the wrenches right.
Probably a good idea to get an AC guy to collect the R12 refrigerant fist too, the gas is probably worth the effort and it will keep it out of the atmosphere.
Also, if I could plant some seeds and you don't need to go through an annual inspection up there in Wisconsin because the car is over 25 years old, you may want to consider an upgrade to a free flow header and exhaust system for a big performance boost. After removing the air pump you can install a dual pulley on the alternator, looks really cool and reduces belt slippage.
Keep us posted on the progress, with pics if possible.
In fact you could get two really nice FB's for what he is asking for the Miata. Kudos for the 12A though, I'd love to see that car at an OGTA meeting.
Taran, removing the AC is pretty much straight forward, just take your time and remember you are working with a bunch of aluminum connections so you need to use the wrenches right.
Probably a good idea to get an AC guy to collect the R12 refrigerant fist too, the gas is probably worth the effort and it will keep it out of the atmosphere.
Also, if I could plant some seeds and you don't need to go through an annual inspection up there in Wisconsin because the car is over 25 years old, you may want to consider an upgrade to a free flow header and exhaust system for a big performance boost. After removing the air pump you can install a dual pulley on the alternator, looks really cool and reduces belt slippage.
Keep us posted on the progress, with pics if possible.
Here you go Ray, a Miata with a 12A. Right in Braselton, too!
atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/3153983922.html

atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/3153983922.html

That's a nice little Miata Mike, but I much prefer Skyactiv to Retroactive. Did I mention that I got 38.9 mpg out of my last tank of gas?
That's 502 miles between gas station visits followed by 12.9 gallons to fill it back up.
Besides, I've got the White One II project to satisfy my 12A addiction.
That's 502 miles between gas station visits followed by 12.9 gallons to fill it back up.
Besides, I've got the White One II project to satisfy my 12A addiction.






