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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaosaur
I know it's not a 12A but I'm buying a 10AE before this if y'all don't mind a youngin' like me coming & bringin' 'er.
I show up in my FC all the time. There are also RX-8s that show.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 01:22 AM
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ray it looks to be an axle shaft. awfully short tho.


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I know it's not a 12A but I'm buying a 10AE before this if y'all don't mind a youngin' like me coming & bringin' 'er.
if it's a rotary, bring it.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 06:39 AM
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Hey Alex, if you don't have any OGTA business cards get some. That REPU owner and his daily-driving buddy both need one under their wipers. Can you leave them a note to see if they come out to Tilted Kilt in three weeks (Aug 7th)?
Im all out of business cards but i'll go ahead and try to contact both of the REPU owners and let them know about the meets

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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Ray that looks like a half shaft from something large, like a jeep or something. That big thing on
the end is one half of a CV joint I believe.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
Ray that looks like a half shaft from something large, like a jeep or something. That big thing on
the end is one half of a CV joint I believe.
That's what I'm thinking. A FWD?
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ray green
Taran you've got a diamond in the rough there, bring that sweet thing back to it's original glory and it will be pretty indeed.
That, kind sir, is the plan. :-)

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As far as the high idle goes, either a vacuum leak or carb linkage issue. Check it over for obvious deterioration of the hose connections, if you don't find anything spray it with carb cleaner and listen for changes in engine pitch.
I was going over the vacuum hoses yesterday and the idle dropped considerably - by 250 RPM to about 1250, which is the idle with AC engaged as I recall. Backstory on this (and a defense for AC in WI) - up til yesterday, Wisconsin was in the 90s and 100s. Yesterday the temperature dropped and I'm thinking that the atmospheric pressure changed (dropped or increased) as well - so either factor could have affected the carb/timing. I pushed some Silicon lubricant onto the vacuum hoses last night before the engine sat which should make the hoses swell slightly, so I'll check the idle this afternoon and see what happens. I'm trying to avoid playing with any adjustments until I rule out the vacuum hoses. I'm half tempted to just replace them all (and may do it anyway).

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Then check the carb links, like the cruise control, cold and hot assist, etc, or just disable all that stuff to begin with (along with the AC. Who needs AC in Wisconsin?)
The previous owner had the Nikki rebuilt and the linkages might not be free, so yes, I'll be digging into that this weekend. The AC Compressor is still there and I was told "it needs servicing" (which could mean ANYTHING). The idea is to eventually have it serviced and run it in summer as needed. Doesn't take much to throw the belt on if a female needs a ride. I love my 12A but I also don't like listening to sweaty women gripe. I'm silly that way.

Will keep the updates coming.

As far as that piece... based on age, etc...

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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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It was an axle, but it's not an axle anymore. And it's for a rotary, an absolute essential for any true rotorhead.

I'm sure Billy, Crit or Gene will get this one.

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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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Ok I'll guess some more.

1. Clutch alignment tool

2. Redneck socket for the flywheel nut

3. Used to plug the tailshaft of the tranny when removing it
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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My money on the redneck flywheel nut removal too also....
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaosaur
I know it's not a 12A but I'm buying a 10AE before this if y'all don't mind a youngin' like me coming & bringin' 'er.
Yeah, bring out that FC. All rotarys are welcome. Heck we even let some people come in sea going mamals.

Originally Posted by ray green
It was an axle, but it's not an axle anymore. And it's for a rotary, an absolute essential for any true rotorhead.

I'm sure Billy, Crit or Gene will get this one.

This my friends is an OCD alignment tool. Very rare.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Tim and Mike win the prize.

One end is the Redneck Flywheel Nut Removal Tool:

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The other end is the OCD Calibration Tool. Can't show the photos of how that works, it's proprietary.

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I'll be using the RFNR/OCDC for the 12A rebuild and to reset the OCD calibration on the White One II project.

Taran, definitely chase down and repair ALL vacuum leaks first, you will just be wasting time and creating massive frustration if you move on to any other tuning aspects with even a small vacuum leak. Chances are on a car that hasn't seen a lot of recent maintenance there will be a few, but they're easy to find and satisfying to fix, that instant "ah ha" moment.

Concerning the AC, on Wisconsin FB's "it needs servicing" means remove it and don't look back. You lose 100 pounds of permanent luggage and the engine bay is much easier to look at and work around. One week of hot weather a year just doesn't justify carrying around all that baggage, much less the regular time and expense you'll need to maintain that 30 year old system. As far as GF's go, not having the AC is your convenient excuse for going fast - you need to keep the air circulation up.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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Correction Ray..this is Marco...Mike Chu hasn't been around OGTA in yrs!!!! lol
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Marco I've got you down for honorable mention on the Redneck Flywheel Nut Removal Tool. But the free rat's nest goes to Tim since he identified it first.

"Mike" is Mike Simonovich, who correctly identified the opposite end of the tool as an OCD calibration device. Mike will also receive a free rat's nest at the August OGTA meeting.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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I want the rats, not the rats nest...
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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ah ....I see..sorry for the confusion....i have no use for the rat's nest...lol
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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You can build an entire FB around a decent rat's nest Marco, makes a great project and you end up with a very drivable car. I'll post pictures.

Mike, will white ones be OK?
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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Ray, how are u locking the flywheel from turning? I may need your help as I need to remove that big nut from an engine I've got.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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I was going to stick a piece of wood in there between the wheel and the block, then get out my biggest pipe wrench. I'll let you know how it works:

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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 11:06 PM
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Nice to learn that bit of trivia. Neat tool.

Probably found the idle problem. Gonna be dramatic.

Originally Posted by ray green
Taran, definitely chase down and repair ALL vacuum leaks first, you will just be wasting time and creating massive frustration if you move on to any other tuning aspects with even a small vacuum leak. Chances are on a car that hasn't seen a lot of recent maintenance there will be a few, but they're easy to find and satisfying to fix, that instant "ah ha" moment.
Checked all the small tubing. All good. So I was ready to start looking for the throttle adjust screw on the Nikki (sing along from page 74 of the carb manual) so I undid the air filter housing a bit to get more light under it. Something interesting happened.

The air pump hose pulled up cleanly from the air hose. Too cleanly. Then I looked at the hose - old. Not ever replaced that I can tell. Meanwhile everything else in the nest was pretty well seated and didn't react to carb cleaner. That by itself shouldn't be an issue because it's sucking air even if that leaks.

Then I looked at... the belt to the air pump/water pump. An inch of play. Worn. So I'm looking for that after I post this. So if the belt is that loose, then the vacuum is dubious and therefore it could effectively be a 'leak' across everything else. Toss in the waterpump and we have a belt that I WILL CHANGE ASAP.

Originally Posted by ray green
Concerning the AC, on Wisconsin FB's "it needs servicing" means remove it and don't look back. You lose 100 pounds of permanent luggage and the engine bay is much easier to look at and work around. One week of hot weather a year just doesn't justify carrying around all that baggage, much less the regular time and expense you'll need to maintain that 30 year old system. As far as GF's go, not having the AC is your convenient excuse for going fast - you need to keep the air circulation up.
I hear ya, though we have had a record summer. 2 months instead of 1 week, but the point is valid.

I just haven't built up the confidence to track all the hoses down and pull them out without destroying them. Do people just cut the hoses at the or what?! (never had to remove the AC before because all previous versions had it done already).

Hatch struts and window guides showed up in the last 30 minutes of daylight (before the pizza got here). Hatch now no longer needs Cialis, but I have to look at the wiring on that passenger strut to make sure that the defroster works for winter. Lower priority.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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The air pump doesn't generate engine vacuum. Any leak at the air pump or air filter housing is always at atmospheric pressure (never vacuum). It's good to update, but don't focus on it to fix your problem.

Wow, 3,333 posts. Cool.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 11:48 PM
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The air pump doesn't generate engine vacuum. Any leak at the air pump or air filter housing is always at atmospheric pressure (never vacuum). It's good to update, but don't focus on it to fix your problem.
Good save, thanks . Was just thinking along those lines while in the shower. Sometimes you want a solution so much...

Your voice of reason is very much appreciated.

But yeah, picking up the belt tomorrow anyway because I don't want the slippage on the water pump at high rpm. My driving does include relatively short high RPM windups when accelerating but Rexxy lives around 2-3K RPM most of the time (I redline her on purpose at times to keep her clean). Hell, she does 75 at around 3500 in 5th. Still... I can almost feel hotspots on her now that I've seen her belt issue and I'm kicking myself for not having looked at it earlier.

As far as the idle - I'm now confident that it's not a vacuum issue. Time to play with a screw tomorrow. Picking up the OEM thermostat tomorrow as well.

May rip out that AC this weekend as well.
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Here you go Ray, a Miata with a 12A. Right in Braselton, too!

atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/3153983922.html

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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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That's a nice Miata Brett and the 12A is certainly a big improvement over the original boinger, but why buy a Barbi car FB wannabe when you can get a real FB?

In fact you could get two really nice FB's for what he is asking for the Miata. Kudos for the 12A though, I'd love to see that car at an OGTA meeting.

Taran, removing the AC is pretty much straight forward, just take your time and remember you are working with a bunch of aluminum connections so you need to use the wrenches right.

Probably a good idea to get an AC guy to collect the R12 refrigerant fist too, the gas is probably worth the effort and it will keep it out of the atmosphere.

Also, if I could plant some seeds and you don't need to go through an annual inspection up there in Wisconsin because the car is over 25 years old, you may want to consider an upgrade to a free flow header and exhaust system for a big performance boost. After removing the air pump you can install a dual pulley on the alternator, looks really cool and reduces belt slippage.

Keep us posted on the progress, with pics if possible.
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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Here you go Ray, a Miata with a 12A. Right in Braselton, too!

atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/3153983922.html

Ah oh, this could be the end of Flipper.
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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That's a nice little Miata Mike, but I much prefer Skyactiv to Retroactive. Did I mention that I got 38.9 mpg out of my last tank of gas?

That's 502 miles between gas station visits followed by 12.9 gallons to fill it back up.

Besides, I've got the White One II project to satisfy my 12A addiction.
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