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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 01:08 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 09:47 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Fdrotorman
Just spent about an hour running through lots of the pages . Man oh man you will have one hell of a machine when she's tuned and rolling . Please put some videos up of that monster. It will be one of the baddest rotarys for sure in the street/show.
thank you, there will definitely be videos as soon as its ready!
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by t-von
I don't know if we've covered this or not but your still gonna have to be careful running this engine at higher rpms with the 20b oil pump. Remember that same pump looses flow on a 20b at 8,500 rpms. In a 4 rotor, that could drop down to 7,000 (speculation). Remember pumps don't create pressure only flow so that accumulator thing won't help you up top (where you need max pressure).
It's hard to know what is actually true as I've yet to see concrete data on the max flow rate of the 20b pump.

PPREs mad mike 4 rotor N/A car runs up to 10k all day with no issues on the internal pump w/ a wet sump like this engine. And we've all seen this car run its nuts off. The question is what that engine looks like inside but truly, I can't see any reason they'd agree with this setup if they suspected that it could damage their engine.

The OEM pump is pulling from the pass side of the oil pan, through a 3/4" line to a port under the front iron.

Because its still questionable, may use OEM pump as scavenge and pump through oil coolers to a tank, then pull from tank w/ single or dual stage back into engine

Still working out a few more items will revisit soon

Thanks for the concern, oil is the blood of these engines are you're right, shouldn't go overlooked.

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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 10:08 AM
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Good news. Word is Lucky 7/RRR bought a HGT unit for one of their customer's cars. Nelson will tune my car at Lucky 7 in the next couple months, so hopefully we can have some real world feedback on this box for turbo rotary. but honestly, if I see one of FI v8 guys launching with HGT on MT bubble tire without shattering it, I would probably buy it.

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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 10:11 AM
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Good news. Word is Lucky 7/RRR bought a HGT unit for one of their customer's cars. Nelson will tune my car at Lucky 7 in the next couple months, so hopefully we can have some real world feedback on this box for turbo rotary. but honestly, if I see one of FI v8 guys launching with HGT on MT bubble tire without shattering it, I would probably buy it.
F*CK YES MAN!
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 10:13 AM
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Some daily motivation for you guys

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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 10:19 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 12:55 PM
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Not sure if it's motivating for me
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 12:58 AM
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Photoshop has gotten out of hand recently. lol!
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:45 PM
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I'm boycotting this engine builder until Monster's engine is delivered. Who's with me!!
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana
I'm boycotting this engine builder until Monster's engine is delivered. Who's with me!!
I'm in, Zach has put in 1,300 HOURS of labor in this build. Car is amazing from what it originally was. Zach is maniac, literally runs on cigs and that jasmine tea definitely deserves this motor. One should not have to wait months after the projected finish date after spending upwards of 40k+.
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 04:25 AM
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You guys are awesome thank you! Hopefully we're on the home stretch. Good news is the car is waiting for the engine to drop in and go!

JZW I hope you get yours sorted out ASAP I know you've seen it all through your swap, so close at this point!
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 04:56 PM
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Cody Guldstrand (EB Turbo) is one of the most stand-up guys I've ever met. Gives hope for the automotive industry. When I say, this guy goes above and beyond, I mean it. Takes every second necessary to explain all details and reply to any question. Amazing work. True automotive artist. Absolutely one of my most favorite experiences in 10 years of rotary is coming across this guy!

Never thought we'd get this far before getting the engine, but here's nearing the completion of the 26b harness!


















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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 05:09 PM
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The concentric twisted harness with the strain relief service loops and the mil-spec connectors with the kapton tape.

That does stuff for me. Muchas gracias for posting this stuff. Next time tag it NSFW, or don't. I'm not a cop
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 06:19 PM
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hahahahaha

My co-workers asked what kind of Alien Drink machine were we planning on powering!

Yea man! thanks for following! gonna bring the heat here shortly!
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 06:36 PM
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what's the point of kapton tape and service loop? I don't understand how it would provide slack.
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 06:36 PM
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tell me about them new fd twins that put out 800 ftlbs- you guy you.
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana
what's the point of kapton tape and service loop? I don't understand how it would provide slack.
The service loop does a few different things. It is a strain relief. If you pull on the end of the wire the loop will move and not pull on the back of the terminal. Also if you have to go into the connector to make any repairs or changes you will have an extra 20-30mm of use able wire.

The Kapton tape in this case is to keep everything in place, to prevent any wires from getting snagged when installing the backshell, also to any epoxy from getting in the harness. This under boot prep prevents any undesired bumps or imperfections from the molded boot.

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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsterbox
Anyone seen an Accusump on rotary? Seems like a economical solution to potential oil starvation on high-g's etc or if a line / cooler failed
its uncommon on a rotary, or even a miata, but on some cars like our honda, its mandatory.

the funny one though is the BMW E30, BMW put the engine at an angle, so i think its left turns, the oil leaves the pan and ends up in the valve cover. there was a factory crank scraper that BMW put on some of them, and this turns out to be enough to fix it, at least with RA1/R888 tires

actually the other trouble with the accusump is remembering to turn it on and off...
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Old Jul 2, 2016 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by EB Turbo
The service loop does a few different things. It is a strain relief. If you pull on the end of the wire the loop will move and not pull on the back of the terminal. Also if you have to go into the connector to make any repairs or changes you will have an extra 20-30mm of use able wire.

The Kapton tape in this case is to keep everything in place, to prevent any wires from getting snagged when installing the backshell, also to any epoxy from getting in the harness. This under boot prep prevents any undesired bumps or imperfections from the molded boot.

EB Turbo
nice. that's really well thought through.
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Old Jul 2, 2016 | 12:44 PM
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I follow EB Turbo's instagram - his work is seriously top-notch and an inspiration for me.
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I had to check him out there, since you mentioned it, and wow is that some top notch work.
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They don't advertise much, people with skills like him... they let their work do the talking.
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Very nice build congrats looks great
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