I like snow, hate ice, tired of the cold, need my title for the vert, glad everyone's projects are coming along, am cooking seafood, can't wait for the superbowl, don't get off work till 5pm so if you guys stay late enuf I'll see you, got my reservations for Deals Gap, backed my Honda into a tree (ooops), wonder why my cat is stupid sometimes, been working too much, wonder if we can get a rotor shaped hot tub, can't wait for GT4 to come out, can't understand a damn thing my son is saying when he speaks/types japanese over the innerweb with some girl in japan he met there last year (damn she's cute), can't understand why people can't/won't tune their damn guitars before they start playing at jam sessions, need a nut to go on my S4 shifter to tighten the shiftknob against, can't decide if I should take the vert or the turbo to Deals Gap, can't figure out where I dropped my 10mm socket..... so like what's new with you guys?

 

Greg: Slow down and take a breath!

T.O. That engine and FC look good,good luck with it I don't have any advice on turbos, maybe check with Bryan

And...... I going to keep posting my Turbo pic until I get a RESPONCE from you all!

Johny

 

oooooooooooooohhhhhhh.........shiny...........

-Rob

 

I'm not sure about all the options, I want a turbonetics T-66, I hear that's the biggest I can go w/o unbariable Turbo lag. I want ceramic ball bearings, I know they are hard to repare. I assume I should go with an "on-center" setup? What trim size should I get (ie .58- .96), and what does it mean by this? Also does anyone have any experience with stand-alone EMS?

 

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but i think the smaller the trim size, the smaller the lag but u lose some top end. I got the larger trim size when i ordered my GT35R kit. Have a Power FC and datalogit but I haven't really messed with it too much, will need to once my car is up and running with the new engine and turbo in it though.

-Rob

 

Greg,

I'm sure Steve has a nut for your S4 shifter. In fact, he probably has about five.

 

the biggest hp rotary car that i know of around here is an 13b(FC) powered corolla which makes 450 rwhp and he will tell you that a T04 is the biggest you need. he's making that hp with a street port and carb. the basics, cheap and easy. anything else is overkill. he knows his ****, ask steve or any local guys that have seen his creations run(ie his turbo'd small block camaro making nearly 1000 hp). im gonna go T04 with my car and im only looking 300-350 in mine. just my 2 cents.

greg, jeez sounds like your neck of the woods is exciting/dramatic!

 

Did I mention I polished my turbo housing?

 

Well, I am actauly looking to put down near th 900 mark. I want to run it in the pro drag racing series, like NHRA, NOPI/NDRA, and local series. That's why such a big turbo. So bigger the trim, bigger the actual inlet/ cmpressor blades?

 

 

wow, 900hp will be extremely hard to get to, I don't think very many people have gotten that high with a rotary engine, think i heard of one or two around that range though (will take serious $$$ to do this) If you are going to drag race it why do you care about turbo lag, since its not an issue in drag racing, just go with the biggest freakin turbo you can get. To ge hp numbers thatt high you will need to do a 20B swap as well. That would bad *** though if you would be able to build that .

-Rob

 

your right the bigger the A/R housing the more power the turbo can make, technically, but the higher up in the RPM band, aka more boost lag.

900HP is a tall order. good luck to you.

i hope to see 450RWHP, but if I fall short I won't be overly concerned. it is more for bragging rights. I will probably have a lower boost setting in the 350-400RWHP range for daily.

my turbo might be overkill, but i would rather be taking it easy on a big turbo, rather than winding out a small one. i think eventually i will switch to the .68 A/R housing on mine for a little quicker spool even if I sacrafice some HP.

-Josh

 

I QUIT!

Im sitting trying to impress you guys with my little hair dryer and then T.O. pops up with a 900 HP FC, Josh pushing 450, I know when I have been beat.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............. How bout those football games, do you think its gonna snow anymore,

 

Well, 900 hp may be along shot, I just want to get the most out of this engine I can. But I hope to be in the high range, we will see when it is all finished. So if I get a T-66 with a .98 A/R that is the biggest T-66 I can get?

 

TO, the turbine is the same size. I am not 100% on this info, but the .98 refers to the exhaust housing. The bigger the housing the more flow it allows. therefore allowing the turbo to operate in its efficiency range. something like that. as you can tell i am not a turbo guru. i was fortunate to buy a setup that i knew worked and had an estimate of the HP that it would put out.

Johny, remember it isn't the size of the turbo, but how well it boosts. plus yours is so shiny it will look bigger once its in the car.

 

I'm beginning to think that turbo jobs on a 7 are kinda like boob jobs on a woman, there is always gonna be someone somewhere with bigger equipment. That is why NAs are my preference, I can still get a speeding ticket anytime I want one. For me thats the final measure of "how fast is your car". From what I remember at our VIR adventure you got plenty of power and more than your brother can handle.

Are you going to make it down to the Drive-In this Saturday?

 

So the bigger the number the bigger the exhaust housing, which means more exhaust flowing into the exhaust side of the turbo? So I could look at it two ways if it is smaller it crams the exhaust throught and pushes the exhaust faster meaning faster spooling= less turbo lag? Or more bigger= more exhaust in the exhaust side of the turbo which = more power? Am I right?

 

that is my understanding of it, TO.

if this is wrong maybe some of the more knowledgable people can enlighten us. however, that is my understanding from what i have read in a few magazines, and threads on this forum.

If you are looking for big HP #s you probably wanna get a mammoth turbo, bigger than a T66. Something in the E or Double E cup range.

 

Well, I wanted to go with a T-76 turbo, the biggeest Turbonetics makes, but after talking to the guys at Rotorsports they said they have a FD with a T-76 which doesn't spool up til 5000 rpms. And with the only option to me, as far as local tracks go, all tracks are 1/8th mile, in that situation that amount of Turbo lag would kill me. So I need a big turbo but one the spool up a little faster. I am leaning between the T-70 and the T-66, with ceramic ball bearings they should spool up even faster. What do you guys think?

 

I have a question that I am afraid to ask, because I think it might be ridiculed.

Couldn't you used nitrous in first gear, maybe a 50 shot, to help get it past 4K. At these RPMS, and with the low boost, the fuel system should be able to supply enough fuel to do the job and keep the car safe. Once the turbo kicks in, it is all boost, and life is good through the rest of the gears! just a thought. I thought about trying a sneaky pete bottle with a 25shot to see gauge how well it works.

Rotorsports is right, that the turbo won't hit FULL boost until 5K, but you have to think it is still producing boost at lower RPMS. The turbo I have is huge, but you can feel it kick in at around 4K even though it hasnt hit full boost yet. I test drove it running about 10PSI and it still felt a hell of a lot faster than my twins, even in first.

On another note, and I am sure there is a way to figure it out, but I wish I could tell how much quicker my turbo would spool if I moved from the .81 A/R to the .68. As in how much sooner in the RPM range would it hit full boost.

 

Why are y'all dealing with the small stuff, just get turbo jet engine from General Electric or Pratt & Whitney and install it? You'll still have a rotary engine and with afterburners you'll have all the HP you'll need in an FC or FD, or even an RX8, in fact just remove the grill and radiator on the 8 and you've got a perfect intake for the engine, of course the passenger compartment may be a little cramped but its all about HP.

 

may get a little warm in there too.

 

That is so true but its all about HP! When are y'all gonna have the monsters on the road again? It don't count unless you can drive it. We are definitely going to have to have a night at the drag strip in the spring from all the talking that's going on.

 

Did everyone get the word that we'll be having the drive-in that we missed last Saturday on this coming Saturday. The time is still open, any time after 3:00 pm is ok with me.

 

New engine arrived the other day, will be putting that in this weekend. Then pretty much everything else will be put in the following weeks. Only thing I am really waiting for is the GT35R kit since I am on a waiting list. Might be able to get some pics, will have to borrow a digital camera from a friend though.

-Rob