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Old Jun 26, 2022 | 08:46 PM
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was, "might need a rebuilt" mentioned by the seller before purchase? hope u didn't pay too much for it.
it was. Trying to see if I want to try to do it myself out t take it to a shop.
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Old Jun 27, 2022 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by corolla13b
I pulled the thermostat housing and there was a cork plugged into the thermostat hole. Pulled that out and installed a new thermostat.
From an old Racing Beat Tech Manual/Catalog:
"Mazda's water thermostat is a "by-pass" type. Therefore, if it is removed for racing, the hole below it must be plugged. Do not eliminate it for street use. A 1/2 inch NPT pipe tap can be run into the bypass hole, and a 1/2 inch NPT plug screwed in."

Also make sure those double alternator belts are tight. They drive the water pump also (this is something that I have to keep an eye on).

Nice looking truck!
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Old Jun 27, 2022 | 09:47 AM
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Raul if you build the 12A yourself, presumably with the assistance of your son, you'll save lots of money, learn lots of stuff and probably end up with a better motor than you would by trusting someone else to do it.

Not to mention pride of ownership and the special status that comes with being a Wankel Maker.

And I agree with Greg the Younger, that's one cool looking pick up truck.

That looks like a regular FB radiator in there, if so I might be able to help you out with a new one.
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Old Jun 27, 2022 | 08:09 PM
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Interesting find today.

I was reading about radiator caps on the forum and found a post about call pressure. My truck came with a 1.3 bar (19lb) cap. It seems rotaries need to run a .9 (13lb) cap. I pulled the one out of the old trusty protege to see if would fit and it did, although a. 1.1 bar.

Drove for a couple miles and temp did go up past 180, but I could hear the water boiling in the reservoir once I turned it off. Going to see if I find a .9 one tomorrow band report my findings. Also used some K-seal.

At least now the pressure is releasing instead of swelling up the hoses.

Pulled the rear spark plugs out and they were dry.

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Old Jun 28, 2022 | 06:49 PM
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 12:59 PM
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Is your water pump whipping your coolant to a froth?
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ray green
Is your water pump whipping your coolant to a froth?
I wish. I didn't record how the water shot out of there after idling 5 minutes.
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 11:51 AM
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hey guys. ran across this sweet RC rotary engine. i've seen other designs of single and twin rotors but nothing like this. 700 bucks. i was wanting to hear it but that didn't happen.
https://www.stirlingkit.com/collecti...f=qb3z9qpzwvjj


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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 12:57 PM
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Scored a rebuilt 12a


Rebuilt and never reinstalled. Drove all the way to Mississippi to get it.
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 07:57 PM
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The Blue will match your exterior color.

It's a sign.

Praise the Rotary Gods.
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 10:58 PM
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Old Jul 9, 2022 | 10:53 AM
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did u question who actually rebuilt it?
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Old Jul 9, 2022 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rxtasy3
did u question who actually rebuilt it?
Definitely. The guy pulled it out of a 79 savannah that he had purchased. Once he got the car, he saw that the body was beyond saving. He pulled the engine out and rebuilt it. Housings and rotors were in good condition. He also had about 5-6 engines mostly 13b and a couple of FBs.
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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 09:09 PM
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Here we go.

Turns out the engine was rebuilt with a 13b Turbo 2 front counter weight and a S5 turbo 2 flywheel. It has an R5 front plate, a FN and FR rotor with the number 5 on the front rotor and 7 on the rear rotor.

Can I use a 83-85 26lb flywheel and the front counter weight from my other 12a?






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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 02:13 PM
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As long as you use a matching flywheel/front counter weight combo I believe you'll be alright.
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 08:54 PM
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Definitely a bigger counter weight. Has a T on it, turbo 2 I imagine.

​​​​​​CW is swapped with 83-85. Now I'm waiting for my Mazdatrix flywheel tools. Should be here tomorrow.
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Old Jul 16, 2022 | 04:45 PM
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Engine is in. Static timing is set, car cranks over but won't turn on. I have spark and fuel, new plugs, ground tested good.

I tried pull starting with my truck, got the engine to turn on but would not stay on.
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 04:28 PM
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Have you tried starter fluid? I use it routinely around here to start dead engines.

You might want to look through this post for some ideas:

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...iming-1154543/
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 05:48 PM
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Compression

Or lack of. I haven't been able to start the engine so I bought a harbor freight compression tester. Fresh battery, used the top hole and I was getting F 35-35-35 and R 40-40-40. The engine was cold so I expected be low. this explains not being able to start.

Next step, deflood because I'm pretty sure it's flooded, pull it out to the road with my truck to bump start it with oil in the engine. Here's hoping that works.
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ray green
Have you tried starter fluid? I use it routinely around here to start dead engines.

You might want to look through this post for some ideas:

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...iming-1154543/
I Used starting fluid but I'm guessing the lack of compression wouldn't let it turn on. It sputtered, but not enough to catch.
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 07:05 PM
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That's not good compression. Does the guy who sold it to you have an explanation?
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ray green
That's not good compression. Does the guy who sold it to you have an explanation?
PO of engine said in the past they had to pull start, with another car going 20mph to get the initial start. The issue was new apex seals on used housing caused for less compression, which made the engine difficult to initially start. This was his experience with rebuilding other engines. He has been very helpful with some of the questions I had, including the CW and flywheel.

He also suggested using MMO to try and get it started.
This evening she almost almost with regular oil.

Fingers crossed
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 12:14 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 10:40 AM
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Whens the next meeting? Finally got my FD running and figured I'd check it out.
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 05:25 PM
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