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Right on James, Donald Trump ain't no Batman. The Penguin is more like it, or the Joker (the joke's on us).
Get ready dudes, now for even more bling on the LE.
This time a full set of early 1980's 13" chrome spoke Weld Wheels.
Excellent condition, 4 x 110 lug pattern, perfect stock replacement. I have a set of shiny new chrome lug nuts too.
And the Welds came fitted with original garage-stored RWL BFG's, like new, not a hint of dry rot.
It don't get more unobtanium:
Be good stuff for an OGTA meeting.
Get ready dudes, now for even more bling on the LE.
This time a full set of early 1980's 13" chrome spoke Weld Wheels.
Excellent condition, 4 x 110 lug pattern, perfect stock replacement. I have a set of shiny new chrome lug nuts too.
And the Welds came fitted with original garage-stored RWL BFG's, like new, not a hint of dry rot.
It don't get more unobtanium:
Be good stuff for an OGTA meeting.
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Right on James, Donald Trump ain't no Batman. The Penguin is more like it, or the Joker (the joke's on us).
Get ready dudes, now for even more bling on the LE.
This time a full set of early 1980's 13" chrome spoke Weld Wheels.
Excellent condition, 4 x 110 lug pattern, perfect stock replacement. I have a set of shiny new chrome lug nuts too.
And the Welds came fitted with original garage-stored RWL BFG's, like new, not a hint of dry rot.
It don't get more unobtanium:
Be good stuff for an OGTA meeting.
Get ready dudes, now for even more bling on the LE.
This time a full set of early 1980's 13" chrome spoke Weld Wheels.
Excellent condition, 4 x 110 lug pattern, perfect stock replacement. I have a set of shiny new chrome lug nuts too.
And the Welds came fitted with original garage-stored RWL BFG's, like new, not a hint of dry rot.
It don't get more unobtanium:
Be good stuff for an OGTA meeting.
You can true them buy putting them on the front spindle and attach a dial indicator on the front strut tube. BUT if you are taking them to a specialist to fix the elongated bolt holes he should be able to true them for you.
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Trump may not be Batman but he is still 10000% better than Obummer ever was and lets not even mention the wicked witch Killery... Trump is actually getting things done no thanks to the libtard congress...
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Seriously, Ray if you go to a custom rim shop (like one of those places that rent wheels) they will be able to size and sell you a hub centric ring adaptor for those wheels. Also, get them to check out those bolt holes.... Maybe its just an optical illusion but they look hella wollered out.
Tim and James those Welds are UniLug wheels, they use offset washers to fit the wheels to a variety of lug patterns.
You can see one of the washers fitted into the upper left lug hole on this photo:
Here's what the adapter washers look like, you can get them for virtually any lug pattern that fits the number of bolt holes:
This set of Welds happens to be centered on the 4 x 110 mm pattern so the offset mounting washers I have are oblong with a hole in the middle.
True, Trump gets things done.
Hitler got things done.
And both destroyed their countries with their lawless nationalism.
You can see one of the washers fitted into the upper left lug hole on this photo:
Here's what the adapter washers look like, you can get them for virtually any lug pattern that fits the number of bolt holes:
This set of Welds happens to be centered on the 4 x 110 mm pattern so the offset mounting washers I have are oblong with a hole in the middle.
True, Trump gets things done.
Hitler got things done.
And both destroyed their countries with their lawless nationalism.
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I think your a bit confused Ray
Hitler was a Socialist, much like Obama, Bernie Sanders, Ocasio- Cortez and the rest of the moonbat liberals that you seem to like so much.
"there's only one wheel that belongs on the LE. and that's the original LE wheels."
Agreed Michael, ain't nothing prettier than an LE wheel on an LE.
Still, me and the LE like to play dress up once in awhile.
So I'll be rotating the WeldWheels and my 15" Panasport racing wheels on there once in awhile just to show off:
Now rx313b, I never said I was a fan of the "moonbat liberals".
I just said that Donald Trump is a disaster for our country, the equivalent of what Adolf Hitler was for Germany in the 1930's.
You're correct, Hitler's was a Socialist, a "National Socialist", to be more specific.
But Hitler's Socialism is like Trump's Socialism, not Obama's socialism, which favors a liberal and compassionate society.
(Socialism as practiced by the Finns, Swedes, Canadians and Britts, check out their affordable health care, effective welfare and low rates of gun violence).
According to Wikipedia Nazism is:
National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1] is the ideology and practices associated with the **** Party – officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) – in **** Germany, and of other far-right groups with similar aims.Nazism is a form of fascism and shows that ideology's disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system, and also incorporates fervent antisemitism, scientific racism, and eugenics into its creed.
Sounds like Trump, doesn't it? So that makes Trump a Socialist, right?
Agreed Michael, ain't nothing prettier than an LE wheel on an LE.
Still, me and the LE like to play dress up once in awhile.
So I'll be rotating the WeldWheels and my 15" Panasport racing wheels on there once in awhile just to show off:
Now rx313b, I never said I was a fan of the "moonbat liberals".
I just said that Donald Trump is a disaster for our country, the equivalent of what Adolf Hitler was for Germany in the 1930's.
You're correct, Hitler's was a Socialist, a "National Socialist", to be more specific.
But Hitler's Socialism is like Trump's Socialism, not Obama's socialism, which favors a liberal and compassionate society.
(Socialism as practiced by the Finns, Swedes, Canadians and Britts, check out their affordable health care, effective welfare and low rates of gun violence).
According to Wikipedia Nazism is:
National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1] is the ideology and practices associated with the **** Party – officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) – in **** Germany, and of other far-right groups with similar aims.Nazism is a form of fascism and shows that ideology's disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system, and also incorporates fervent antisemitism, scientific racism, and eugenics into its creed.
Sounds like Trump, doesn't it? So that makes Trump a Socialist, right?
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LE wheels for the win!
But if you want to run those aftermarket wheels with the wonky lug adaptors think about getting some hub centric rings. You'll find the ride about 1 000 000 times smoother.
But if you want to run those aftermarket wheels with the wonky lug adaptors think about getting some hub centric rings. You'll find the ride about 1 000 000 times smoother.
Well now James, you got me thinking.
For the Weld Wheels I need to install long studs on the LE hubs to reach through the extra thick center plate, then tie them down with long shaft flush mount lug nuts.
I got everything I need from a place called Lug Nut King out in Fontana California, those guys are amazing, they've know and have everything lug nuts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-LUG-NUTS...wAAOSwiHpaSRE0
But tell me more about these hub centric rings, post a link if you've got one.
Do they have long studs and extended flush mount lug nuts to reach through the Welds to tie them down?
And are they really a million times smoother?
For the Weld Wheels I need to install long studs on the LE hubs to reach through the extra thick center plate, then tie them down with long shaft flush mount lug nuts.
I got everything I need from a place called Lug Nut King out in Fontana California, those guys are amazing, they've know and have everything lug nuts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-LUG-NUTS...wAAOSwiHpaSRE0
But tell me more about these hub centric rings, post a link if you've got one.
Do they have long studs and extended flush mount lug nuts to reach through the Welds to tie them down?
And are they really a million times smoother?
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Well now James, you got me thinking.
For the Weld Wheels I need to install long studs on the LE hubs to reach through the extra thick center plate, then tie them down with long shaft flush mount lug nuts.
I got everything I need from a place called Lug Nut King out in Fontana California, those guys are amazing, they've know and have everything lug nuts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-LUG-NUTS...wAAOSwiHpaSRE0
But tell me more about these hub centric rings, post a link if you've got one.
Do they have long studs and extended flush mount lug nuts to reach through the Welds to tie them down?
And are they really a million times smoother?
For the Weld Wheels I need to install long studs on the LE hubs to reach through the extra thick center plate, then tie them down with long shaft flush mount lug nuts.
I got everything I need from a place called Lug Nut King out in Fontana California, those guys are amazing, they've know and have everything lug nuts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-LUG-NUTS...wAAOSwiHpaSRE0
But tell me more about these hub centric rings, post a link if you've got one.
Do they have long studs and extended flush mount lug nuts to reach through the Welds to tie them down?
And are they really a million times smoother?
That link pretty much explains it better than I ever could... They just center the wheel to the hub you are using.
And yeah they will definitely improve the ride of the wheel because you're wheel will be centered to the hub. I send customers who have aftermarket wheels to wheel shops to get their aftermarket wheel bores measured for use on whatever car they are using. I'm sure the wheel company is just using a mic to measure the bore and hub, but I wouldn't feel confident I would measure them right.
Oh, and those LE wheels would look AWSOME with a mirror polished lip and like a 1500 grit burnished spokes.
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Dahang!!!! I feel like I might’ve had something to do with sparking this thread back up!! I should’ve quit smoking a long time ago!! Ray those Spokers look great! But I’d tread lightly and make sure your on solid ground however you deal with those obviously boweled out slightly elongated holes. Really not fair comparing trump and hitler.. just not historically factual. I do like the Oem LE wheels best. Those spokes would definitely look better on Tims 7 (lol). Nice to have choices like that. AND all those goodies you’re showing!!! Wow your take home pay must’ve improved too!! Haven’t seen you spread that much ink since I wandered on this thread! I put slotted rotors on mine with Hawk pads.. really wear and brake nice.
It was your good news for sure Paul that fired up the OGTAs, getting off the cigarettes is good news for all, we are with you 100%.
I'm sure it's not easy but keep it up, comes with all kinds of fringe benefits beyond health, like money saved on cigarettes to buy goodies for the SE.
You guys need to stop worrying about the oblong holes in my WeldWheels, they're designed that way.
The Welds are UniLug wheels, they use offset mounting washers to fit different lug patterns. Tim is just trying to get me to donate them to his SA.
On Trump, my taxes actually did go down this year and we got a decent refund, especially from the state.
But the extra money isn't nearly to enough to offset the increases in living expenses that Trump's policies have dumped on us, it's all smoke and mirrors.
And I agree, it's not fair comparing Trump to Hitler. Hitler killed millions of people he didn't like, Trump is just getting started.
But lies, insults and name calling are Trump's Rules, not mine. I'm just playing his game and whipping his ***.
You don't back down from a playground bully, you kick him in the *****.
Ultimately Tim is right, we need to get away from this Socialist Leftists vs **** Rightists stuff and move back to the middle.
I'm ready anytime, but after today's name calling by our so-called president (all Democrats are open boarder socialists, what an *******) Trump may have to go first.
And Paul, that's great news that the slotted rotors work with Hawk pads, thanks.
I had read on the Hawk site that Hawk's can't be used with rotors with a "surface treatment" and then I discovered the StopTech rotors I'm looking at are treated, at least according to their video:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6159474&cc=1192261&jsn=388
So I was worried, but Mike (GSLSEforme) also said no problem, here's a tread on the subject:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...otors-1133698/
So if it's recommended by SE drivers and good enough for an SE, it's good enough for me, I'll be placing my order for the slots tonight.
I'm sure it's not easy but keep it up, comes with all kinds of fringe benefits beyond health, like money saved on cigarettes to buy goodies for the SE.
You guys need to stop worrying about the oblong holes in my WeldWheels, they're designed that way.
The Welds are UniLug wheels, they use offset mounting washers to fit different lug patterns. Tim is just trying to get me to donate them to his SA.
On Trump, my taxes actually did go down this year and we got a decent refund, especially from the state.
But the extra money isn't nearly to enough to offset the increases in living expenses that Trump's policies have dumped on us, it's all smoke and mirrors.
And I agree, it's not fair comparing Trump to Hitler. Hitler killed millions of people he didn't like, Trump is just getting started.
But lies, insults and name calling are Trump's Rules, not mine. I'm just playing his game and whipping his ***.
You don't back down from a playground bully, you kick him in the *****.
Ultimately Tim is right, we need to get away from this Socialist Leftists vs **** Rightists stuff and move back to the middle.
I'm ready anytime, but after today's name calling by our so-called president (all Democrats are open boarder socialists, what an *******) Trump may have to go first.
And Paul, that's great news that the slotted rotors work with Hawk pads, thanks.
I had read on the Hawk site that Hawk's can't be used with rotors with a "surface treatment" and then I discovered the StopTech rotors I'm looking at are treated, at least according to their video:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6159474&cc=1192261&jsn=388
So I was worried, but Mike (GSLSEforme) also said no problem, here's a tread on the subject:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...otors-1133698/
So if it's recommended by SE drivers and good enough for an SE, it's good enough for me, I'll be placing my order for the slots tonight.
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I'm not gonna lie Ray if those weld wheels were a 15" wheel I'd be all over them for my Ghia. But I've got my heart set on the knock off Fuchs wheels.
All of the primered area is new metal. This project has made my 7 take a daily driver back seat.
All of the primered area is new metal. This project has made my 7 take a daily driver back seat.
ancient wizard...
Well now James, you got me thinking.
For the Weld Wheels I need to install long studs on the LE hubs to reach through the extra thick center plate, then tie them down with long shaft flush mount lug nuts.
I got everything I need from a place called Lug Nut King out in Fontana California, those guys are amazing, they've know and have everything lug nuts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-LUG-NUTS...wAAOSwiHpaSRE0
But tell me more about these hub centric rings, post a link if you've got one.
Do they have long studs and extended flush mount lug nuts to reach through the Welds to tie them down?
And are they really a million times smoother?
For the Weld Wheels I need to install long studs on the LE hubs to reach through the extra thick center plate, then tie them down with long shaft flush mount lug nuts.
I got everything I need from a place called Lug Nut King out in Fontana California, those guys are amazing, they've know and have everything lug nuts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-LUG-NUTS...wAAOSwiHpaSRE0
But tell me more about these hub centric rings, post a link if you've got one.
Do they have long studs and extended flush mount lug nuts to reach through the Welds to tie them down?
And are they really a million times smoother?
The reason it runs smoother is the hub centric ring keeps the wheel absolutely centered on the true hub of the car for minimum runout.
Without a snug wheel fit hub/drum/rotor hub the lug nuts/studs are stressed in two planes,one keeping the wheel tight to drum/rotor hub and the other in trying to keep wheel centered. I say trying because there will always be movement from studs flexing(especially a longer stud) allowing some movement of wheel on hub from dynamic forces working on it like cornering,braking and accelerating+ whatever imbalance/runout tire may have. This is exaggerated in unilug applications where the unilug insert adds another dimension of slop the lug nuts need to try to overcome to keep wheel centered and tight.
Hub centric ring reduces that to one plane. Take any oe aluminum wheel off car and look at how snug it fits,to keep the wheel centered on the hub and lug nuts only job is to keep wheel tight to hub.
To properly size hub centric ring,plastic is available but stick with metal as plastic gives more than metal,defeating the purpose. Clean the inside hub of wheel til shiny,its true surface and do same on rotor,drum hub. Use a vernier caliper and as accurately as you can measure the id of wheel hub and od of rotor/drum hub and write measurements down. You want to select the od of hub centric to be as close to a press fit in the wheel hub as you can so it stays in the wheel hub when you remove wheel .The id of hub centric ring you want as close to the od of rotor/hub as possible to eliminate all slop-but not seize to wheel so you can get wheels off to balance,rotate,etc.
Start your search on the bay of e with listed measurements approximating yours. Close enough is what you're looking for here. If you want exact,a machinist can make you a set for $$$. A set of four rings store bought can only be @ $15.00.
I had a set of 15" x 7 1/2"wheels machined for my SE to my offset,backspacing and hub id. I am not a fan of wheel adapters,spacers and wanted maximum rubber within the fender front and rear on lowered chassis with no fender rolling and no tire contact. cost some$$ but i got what i wanted.
Mustang in the pic was my club track car when i belonged to Shelby American Car Club. The club would have national conventions all around the country at race track facilities like Charlotte Motor Speedway, Pocono International,Mid Ohio and we could run our cars around the track as fast as we wanted(insurance and waivers)Had to go thru a serious tech inspection to get on the track.
The wheels on car in pics were ET mags with uni lug setup. When i tracked the car i took the ETs off and ran Ford Torino 15x 7 steel rims. With lots of big engine torque,4 spd and 3.89 gears in 9" detroit locker i sheared off several studs barking tires several times on rear axles. One time sheared all 5 studs early on in a burnout and the tire/wheel was no longer attached to the car. Luckily the tire/wheel lodged between rotor and inner wheel house,kept the car off the ground and did next to no damage. That was the end of those wheels on that car.
Last edited by GSLSEforme; 02-19-19 at 10:58 PM.
Thanks for the details on the hubcentric adapters guys, I also watched James' video and I get it now, they do look like a good idea, especially for aftermarkets.
I guess these things are not application-specific, which is a good thing, WeldWheels on 1st gen RX-7's practically don't exist (except mine).
I'll check it out, if I can find ones that fit I'll add them to the WeldWheel project.
You guys just posted pics of two of my all time favorite autos, the Karmann Ghia and the 1st gen Mustang fastback, y'all have good taste!
Mike, I hope your stud shearing days are over, somebody could get hurt if the wheel escapes the wheel well.
Are those Panasports in your photos? Pretty.
I guess these things are not application-specific, which is a good thing, WeldWheels on 1st gen RX-7's practically don't exist (except mine).
I'll check it out, if I can find ones that fit I'll add them to the WeldWheel project.
You guys just posted pics of two of my all time favorite autos, the Karmann Ghia and the 1st gen Mustang fastback, y'all have good taste!
Mike, I hope your stud shearing days are over, somebody could get hurt if the wheel escapes the wheel well.
Are those Panasports in your photos? Pretty.
ancient wizard...
Nah Ray,never really grew out of hammer down phase of my life,few and far between these days. Used to do a LOT of street racing,3-4 times a week. Had several cars i built and maintained to sooth my itch.
Yes,they are Panasports. Mounting my stickies.
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Damn Ray.. you and I agree. Kharman Ghia and mid 60’s Stangs are on my fav list. Especially love to see those Cragars. Just don’t see them much anymore. I am a journeyman tool and die maker and machinist. When using calipers of any kind, dial, digital or old school verniers, be extra careful when measuring ID on any bore. It’s not really close to accurate and will only get you in the ballpark. With a skilled “feel” you can get away with it. As for anything Mike Forme has to say.. gospel. Sure some great sh@t on here lately. My brother had a light powder blue Ghia in the 60’s. Still an absolutely gorgeous set of lines in any era. Can’t wsit to see the results of that build.
You're my Hero Paul, when I was in high school I was pretty much a flunky.
Except in Drafting, I did great in that, loved those lines and protractors.
Should have followed that lead, Machinists Rock, and I'd have my mortgage paid off.
And yeah, you're right about Mike. Gospel of the Best Kind.
Pics of the Powder Blue Ghia? (She don't need no make up, she'll be fine just the way she is).
Except in Drafting, I did great in that, loved those lines and protractors.
Should have followed that lead, Machinists Rock, and I'd have my mortgage paid off.
And yeah, you're right about Mike. Gospel of the Best Kind.
Pics of the Powder Blue Ghia? (She don't need no make up, she'll be fine just the way she is).
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Damn Ray.. you and I agree. Kharman Ghia and mid 60’s Stangs are on my fav list. Especially love to see those Cragars. Just don’t see them much anymore. I am a journeyman tool and die maker and machinist. When using calipers of any kind, dial, digital or old school verniers, be extra careful when measuring ID on any bore. It’s not really close to accurate and will only get you in the ballpark. With a skilled “feel” you can get away with it. As for anything Mike Forme has to say.. gospel. Sure some great sh@t on here lately. My brother had a light powder blue Ghia in the 60’s. Still an absolutely gorgeous set of lines in any era. Can’t wsit to see the results of that build.
My ghia is gonna be Dodge "B5" blue or PQD blue.
I was going to go with a custom color blue, but a PQD blue charger showed up at work and that blue just spoke to me.
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Damn that's pretty close to PQD blue. And those are the bumpers I'm getting except the nubs on the front (i'm keeping the "blade" style not the euro style).
But I am NOT going to have those god awful wheels... Blaaaa. Those are atrocious. I'm going with the nock off fuch's wheels. I'd like the 5 spoke 911 style but I think I'm just gonna settle for the 4 spoke 914 wheels. They really look like the + wheels for the FB
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