Old guys with 12As club meeting
07-05-17, 07:10 PM
Senior Member
Found this car sitting next to mine during lunch time today. Naturally I had to take a picture 
That car is actually owned by a real professional driver for Porsche! He is a friend of the shop. This guy also has a real WRC subaru rally car that I did some small fab work for in the past.
That car is actually owned by a real professional driver for Porsche! He is a friend of the shop. This guy also has a real WRC subaru rally car that I did some small fab work for in the past.
07-05-17, 07:57 PM
Dang Dmetri, that light beige 84 FB is pretty, makes those other units look like rat turds.
I mean seriously, take a look at the rear end on that silver car, Rosie O'Donnell or what?
Speaking of Rosie O'Donnell, here's my Trump Quote for the Day:
"I have always leaned to the conservative side, but I consider Trump to be the dog that has caught the car and has no idea what to do with it."
100% Alabama Wisdom for sure, courtesy of Mr. Watson.
Putin and Merkel are going to kick that Big Dog's butt right back to Mar-a-Lago.
Make him wish he never bit a car tire. Stupid as he is.
I mean seriously, take a look at the rear end on that silver car, Rosie O'Donnell or what?
Speaking of Rosie O'Donnell, here's my Trump Quote for the Day:
"I have always leaned to the conservative side, but I consider Trump to be the dog that has caught the car and has no idea what to do with it."
100% Alabama Wisdom for sure, courtesy of Mr. Watson.
Putin and Merkel are going to kick that Big Dog's butt right back to Mar-a-Lago.
Make him wish he never bit a car tire. Stupid as he is.
07-05-17, 09:00 PM
Rotary Enthusiast
Dang Dmetri, that light beige 84 FB is pretty, makes those other units look like rat turds.
I mean seriously, take a look at the rear end on that silver car, Rosie O'Donnell or what?
Speaking of Rosie O'Donnell, here's my Trump Quote for the Day:
"I have always leaned to the conservative side, but I consider Trump to be the dog that has caught the car and has no idea what to do with it."
100% Alabama Wisdom for sure, courtesy of Mr. Watson.
Putin and Merkel are going to kick that Big Dog's butt right back to Mar-a-Lago.
Make him wish he never bit a car tire. Stupid as he is.
I mean seriously, take a look at the rear end on that silver car, Rosie O'Donnell or what?
Speaking of Rosie O'Donnell, here's my Trump Quote for the Day:
"I have always leaned to the conservative side, but I consider Trump to be the dog that has caught the car and has no idea what to do with it."
100% Alabama Wisdom for sure, courtesy of Mr. Watson.
Putin and Merkel are going to kick that Big Dog's butt right back to Mar-a-Lago.
Make him wish he never bit a car tire. Stupid as he is.
07-05-17, 10:46 PM
that is a very nice karhman ghia. My brother had one when I was a kid. He let me shift for him while we were cruising. I was 10 years old. .. 1966. I had two bugs, 67, 74 super beetle, AND 76 scirocco with a Holley two barrel. The 74 beetle had Hurst click shift, kadron headers, Bosch 009 ignition, lightened flywheel, .032 shaved heads, Holley two barrel, Porsche 914 style rims w Swedish steel belted performance tires. The Ghia is still ahead of its time for styling.
I've got an engal 110 cam, 88mm jugs, feed by a pair of solex 34mm carbs.
And two big ole fat 205 tires in the back with the skinny 185s up front.
Also, for the moment its my only car cause my 7 is currently being molested.
07-06-17, 09:08 AM
so what's up with photobucket? i see some images show and some don't. haven't gone back to any of my postings with images, but read they stopped hot linking?
Last edited by rxtasy3; 07-06-17 at 09:13 AM.
07-06-17, 05:45 PM
Sorry Michael, it looks like photobucket has decided to charge users $37.50/month for the privilege of letting folks see my pictures.
First they steal my photos, now they want to sell them for a profit.
Which ain't gonna happen. Photobucket sucks.
Just more of the steady slide into societal decay inspired by our Capitalist Pig President Trump.
In the True Trump Tradition, everybody wants to screw everybody else.
Want a splendid example that dude sets!
James, I see your photos are still up. Could you let us know who your photo host is?
And you know, I'd probably be just as happy driving around in that red Karmen Ghia of yours as your FB.
What the Ghia lacks in sportiness and technical finesse it gains in Class.
Michael, you need to complain to the Mods about getting your
First they steal my photos, now they want to sell them for a profit.
Which ain't gonna happen. Photobucket sucks.
Just more of the steady slide into societal decay inspired by our Capitalist Pig President Trump.
In the True Trump Tradition, everybody wants to screw everybody else.
Want a splendid example that dude sets!
James, I see your photos are still up. Could you let us know who your photo host is?
And you know, I'd probably be just as happy driving around in that red Karmen Ghia of yours as your FB.
What the Ghia lacks in sportiness and technical finesse it gains in Class.
Michael, you need to complain to the Mods about getting your
07-06-17, 08:18 PM
Well the Ghia **** on me today... I somehow roasted my contact points on the way to work. I called in and got a ride to work then on lunch break went to the car to put new points in and drove it the rest of the way to work. On the way home from work it died again.... Now I've gotta drive the Porsche to work tomorrow. And I'm at such wits end with the hole thing I'm just gonna go electronic ignition. Its already been ordered.
I use the little image icon on the top of the reply box... I don't know how to describe it. The icon is next to the "Bold, Italics, and underline" emblems on the top of the reply box.
I use the little image icon on the top of the reply box... I don't know how to describe it. The icon is next to the "Bold, Italics, and underline" emblems on the top of the reply box.
07-06-17, 09:11 PM
Contact points are fun and interesting.
I've got a great story about my '75 Honda Civic on the way home from Greenfield one night, rebuilt the points on the side of the road.
But at some point points get to be a hassle, time to go electronic.
Let me know if you want to sell the Ghia.
Since photobucket won't let me post pics, I thought I'd offer this link instead:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/o...nity.html?_r=0
I've got a great story about my '75 Honda Civic on the way home from Greenfield one night, rebuilt the points on the side of the road.
But at some point points get to be a hassle, time to go electronic.
Let me know if you want to sell the Ghia.
Since photobucket won't let me post pics, I thought I'd offer this link instead:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/o...nity.html?_r=0
07-07-17, 10:50 AM
Rotary Enthusiast
"But at some point points get to be a hassle, time to go electronic."
"Let me know if you want to sell the Ghia"
points aren't that big a deal. Just hard to do on the side of road on a flat 1.6 four cylinder by oneself.
Ray!! You can't easily retrofit a wankel into a rear engine car.. lol
"Let me know if you want to sell the Ghia"
points aren't that big a deal. Just hard to do on the side of road on a flat 1.6 four cylinder by oneself.
Ray!! You can't easily retrofit a wankel into a rear engine car.. lol
07-07-17, 12:50 PM
Yeah Paul, I've seen 12A's and 13B's in the rear ends of both bugs and porches, interesting concept.
But kind of like lipstick on a pig, those Wankels belong in FB's!
I surprised myself with that repair to the points on the little 2 door '75 Honda Civic.
I was on the interstate, it was almost dark, I had my kids in the car and was cruising at highway speed when the engine just quit cold.
I pulled off the highway as far as I could, popped the hood and, taking a guess, removed the distributor cap.
Inside the points were broken into little pieces.
I found all the pieces, put them back together, reinstalled the points and set the gap with a match book cover.
Took about 15 minutes, which was all the light I had. I don't think I ever replaced those points after that.
Here's another one. When I was 18 years old, my first car was a '69 VW bug, the light tan paint job.
The first time I changed the spark plugs I managed to strip the threads in one of the plug holes.
So I stuck the plug in the hole and used a piece of wood wedged between the engine bay and spark plug to hold the plug in place.
Worked fine, I drove it like that for the rest of the time I had the car.
But kind of like lipstick on a pig, those Wankels belong in FB's!
I surprised myself with that repair to the points on the little 2 door '75 Honda Civic.
I was on the interstate, it was almost dark, I had my kids in the car and was cruising at highway speed when the engine just quit cold.
I pulled off the highway as far as I could, popped the hood and, taking a guess, removed the distributor cap.
Inside the points were broken into little pieces.
I found all the pieces, put them back together, reinstalled the points and set the gap with a match book cover.
Took about 15 minutes, which was all the light I had. I don't think I ever replaced those points after that.
Here's another one. When I was 18 years old, my first car was a '69 VW bug, the light tan paint job.
The first time I changed the spark plugs I managed to strip the threads in one of the plug holes.
So I stuck the plug in the hole and used a piece of wood wedged between the engine bay and spark plug to hold the plug in place.
Worked fine, I drove it like that for the rest of the time I had the car.
07-07-17, 04:20 PM
If your Civic was a CVCC Paul it must have been a '75 or later, the CVCC didn't debut until 1975.
My '75 was a CVCC, 1500 cc, 53 hp, 40 mpg all day long baby.
Fun to drive, especially on snow.
(I was living in Massachusetts back then, we had lots of snow in those days before Global Warming).
Standard turning procedure on snow with that light little front wheel drive go kart was swing out the rear end 10-15 feet.
Like a carnival ride.
Here's the one I had, except it was blue with a well-faded hood.
Drove it for several years back when I was a graduate student.
My '75 was a CVCC, 1500 cc, 53 hp, 40 mpg all day long baby.
Fun to drive, especially on snow.
(I was living in Massachusetts back then, we had lots of snow in those days before Global Warming).
Standard turning procedure on snow with that light little front wheel drive go kart was swing out the rear end 10-15 feet.
Like a carnival ride.
Here's the one I had, except it was blue with a well-faded hood.
Drove it for several years back when I was a graduate student.
07-07-17, 05:52 PM
Rotary Enthusiast
If your Civic was a CVCC Paul it must have been a '75 or later, the CVCC didn't debut until 1975.
My '75 was a CVCC, 1500 cc, 53 hp, 40 mpg all day long baby.
Fun to drive, especially on snow.
(I was living in Massachusetts back then, we had lots of snow in those days before Global Warming).
Standard turning procedure on snow with that light little front wheel drive go kart was swing out the rear end 10-15 feet.
Like a carnival ride.
Here's the one I had, except it was blue with a well-faded hood.
Drove it for several years back when I was a graduate student.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy7HYWmS6z4
My '75 was a CVCC, 1500 cc, 53 hp, 40 mpg all day long baby.
Fun to drive, especially on snow.
(I was living in Massachusetts back then, we had lots of snow in those days before Global Warming).
Standard turning procedure on snow with that light little front wheel drive go kart was swing out the rear end 10-15 feet.
Like a carnival ride.
Here's the one I had, except it was blue with a well-faded hood.
Drove it for several years back when I was a graduate student.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy7HYWmS6z4
07-07-17, 06:44 PM
Contact points are fun and interesting.
I've got a great story about my '75 Honda Civic on the way home from Greenfield one night, rebuilt the points on the side of the road.
But at some point points get to be a hassle, time to go electronic.
Let me know if you want to sell the Ghia.
Since photobucket won't let me post pics, I thought I'd offer this link instead:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/o...nity.html?_r=0
I've got a great story about my '75 Honda Civic on the way home from Greenfield one night, rebuilt the points on the side of the road.
But at some point points get to be a hassle, time to go electronic.
Let me know if you want to sell the Ghia.
Since photobucket won't let me post pics, I thought I'd offer this link instead:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/o...nity.html?_r=0
$8000 come and get it.
Stem to stern everything has been rebuilt mechanically within the last year. (save the points obviously). Just needs re-upolstry and a good paint job.
The points were just a symptom. The problem lay in the condenser. A few weeks ago I left the keys in the on position over night. Killed the battery, but must have fried the condenser in the process.
07-07-17, 07:52 PM
Tempting James, I've always wanted a Ghia and that cherry red one of yours is a fine example.
But reality is I can get three nice FB's for $8000. Besides, you need to keep it, it's YOU.
Tell the wife to get some passion for the Ghia, not everybody owns a sweet cherry red Karmen Ghia.
And 987 Caymen's are for rich ***** like Donald Trump and his sons.
You wouldn't want to be associated with that crowd, would you?
Paul, I hate to disagree, but your 73 Civic was not a CVCC.
The CVCC wasn't introduced until 1975, when it was part of the ED1 engine package in 1975 Honda Civic.
Your 1973 Civic must have had the standard 50 hp 1,169 cc 4 cylinder fitted to a 4 speed manual transmission, without the CVCC.
My '75 CVCC Civic hatchback had the 5 speed tranny.
At 1600 lbs, that 53 hp CVCC engine had plenty of pep, a really fun car to drive.
Especially in snow.
But reality is I can get three nice FB's for $8000. Besides, you need to keep it, it's YOU.
Tell the wife to get some passion for the Ghia, not everybody owns a sweet cherry red Karmen Ghia.
And 987 Caymen's are for rich ***** like Donald Trump and his sons.
You wouldn't want to be associated with that crowd, would you?
Paul, I hate to disagree, but your 73 Civic was not a CVCC.
The CVCC wasn't introduced until 1975, when it was part of the ED1 engine package in 1975 Honda Civic.
Your 1973 Civic must have had the standard 50 hp 1,169 cc 4 cylinder fitted to a 4 speed manual transmission, without the CVCC.
My '75 CVCC Civic hatchback had the 5 speed tranny.
At 1600 lbs, that 53 hp CVCC engine had plenty of pep, a really fun car to drive.
Especially in snow.
07-08-17, 12:27 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_...rst_generation)
"The CVCC (Compound Vortex Controlled Combustion) engine debuted in 1975 and was offered alongside the standard Civic engine. The optional 53 hp (40 kW) CVCC engine displaced 1488 cc and had a head design that promoted cleaner, more efficient combustion. The CVCC design eliminated the need for catalytic converters or unleaded fuel to meet changing emissions standards, unlike nearly every other U.S. market car. Due to California's stricter emissions standards, only the CVCC powered Civic was available in that state. This created a sales advantage in Honda's favor in that CVCC equipped Honda products afforded the buyer the ability to choose any type of fuel the buyer wanted, and due to emissions equipment not being damaged by using leaded fuel, the buyer could use any gasoline products available. This was also an advantage due to some regions of North America having to ration available gasoline supplies due to periodic shortages at the time."
"The CVCC (Compound Vortex Controlled Combustion) engine debuted in 1975 and was offered alongside the standard Civic engine. The optional 53 hp (40 kW) CVCC engine displaced 1488 cc and had a head design that promoted cleaner, more efficient combustion. The CVCC design eliminated the need for catalytic converters or unleaded fuel to meet changing emissions standards, unlike nearly every other U.S. market car. Due to California's stricter emissions standards, only the CVCC powered Civic was available in that state. This created a sales advantage in Honda's favor in that CVCC equipped Honda products afforded the buyer the ability to choose any type of fuel the buyer wanted, and due to emissions equipment not being damaged by using leaded fuel, the buyer could use any gasoline products available. This was also an advantage due to some regions of North America having to ration available gasoline supplies due to periodic shortages at the time."
Last edited by rxtasy3; 07-08-17 at 12:30 AM.
07-09-17, 10:23 AM
Rotary Enthusiast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_...rst_generation)
"The CVCC (Compound Vortex Controlled Combustion) engine debuted in 1975 and was offered alongside the standard Civic engine. The optional 53 hp (40 kW) CVCC engine displaced 1488 cc and had a head design that promoted cleaner, more efficient combustion. The CVCC design eliminated the need for catalytic converters or unleaded fuel to meet changing emissions standards, unlike nearly every other U.S. market car. Due to California's stricter emissions standards, only the CVCC powered Civic was available in that state. This created a sales advantage in Honda's favor in that CVCC equipped Honda products afforded the buyer the ability to choose any type of fuel the buyer wanted, and due to emissions equipment not being damaged by using leaded fuel, the buyer could use any gasoline products available. This was also an advantage due to some regions of North America having to ration available gasoline supplies due to periodic shortages at the time."
"The CVCC (Compound Vortex Controlled Combustion) engine debuted in 1975 and was offered alongside the standard Civic engine. The optional 53 hp (40 kW) CVCC engine displaced 1488 cc and had a head design that promoted cleaner, more efficient combustion. The CVCC design eliminated the need for catalytic converters or unleaded fuel to meet changing emissions standards, unlike nearly every other U.S. market car. Due to California's stricter emissions standards, only the CVCC powered Civic was available in that state. This created a sales advantage in Honda's favor in that CVCC equipped Honda products afforded the buyer the ability to choose any type of fuel the buyer wanted, and due to emissions equipment not being damaged by using leaded fuel, the buyer could use any gasoline products available. This was also an advantage due to some regions of North America having to ration available gasoline supplies due to periodic shortages at the time."
07-09-17, 02:41 PM
Ah ha! That solves the riddle.
Your 1973 Civic had a transplanted 75 or newer CVCC engine in it!
And yes, the 2 door hatchback 1st gen Civic was a very lovable car.
Curb weight of only 1500 lbs, still sat 4 comfortably.
Rugged, quick, fun to drive, easy on gas and like a Wankel-powered toboggan in the snow.
Your 1973 Civic had a transplanted 75 or newer CVCC engine in it!
And yes, the 2 door hatchback 1st gen Civic was a very lovable car.
Curb weight of only 1500 lbs, still sat 4 comfortably.
Rugged, quick, fun to drive, easy on gas and like a Wankel-powered toboggan in the snow.
07-09-17, 03:20 PM
not sure the model but had one of those back in the early 80s, remember it having that hi-low shifter but was an automatic. that thing would go for like ever on a tank of gas.
07-09-17, 08:53 PM
Rotary Enthusiast
Ah ha! That solves the riddle.
Your 1973 Civic had a transplanted 75 or newer CVCC engine in it!
And yes, the 2 door hatchback 1st gen Civic was a very lovable car.
Curb weight of only 1500 lbs, still sat 4 comfortably.
Rugged, quick, fun to drive, easy on gas and like a Wankel-powered toboggan in the snow.
Your 1973 Civic had a transplanted 75 or newer CVCC engine in it!
And yes, the 2 door hatchback 1st gen Civic was a very lovable car.
Curb weight of only 1500 lbs, still sat 4 comfortably.
Rugged, quick, fun to drive, easy on gas and like a Wankel-powered toboggan in the snow.
07-09-17, 09:15 PM
Rotary Enthusiast
Funny story. That civic couldn't handle the Ohio winter salt well. When I bought it it had 80k plus miles. I sold it with 167k. The back seat floor panels rusted through first so I I had a rubber mat over the hole. When it rained hard and you hit a puddle the water would do a geyser thing and shoot straight up against the ceiling. The person sitting in that seat got drenched. I sold it for 900 bucks, what paid for it. It burned a quart every 1200 miles but the guy bought it anyway. Later found out he drove to 200k and it broke in half from the rust . Said he never regretted buying it. Was a great throwaway vehicle for its time. Reliable as hell.
07-10-17, 03:38 AM
I had a Peugeot 404 like that, the floor pans always rust out on the passenger side first because of the salt on the side of the road.
One time I hit some slushy snow and my poor dog Melon, who was lying on the passenger's seat, got covered by a bucket of cold wet salty slush.
You should have seen the way she looked at me.
My Civic never did rust out for some reason, it just kept going and going.
I only quit driving it when I got a sweet little '78 MGB.
I never had a car that gave so much for so little trouble, not even the FB's.
One time I hit some slushy snow and my poor dog Melon, who was lying on the passenger's seat, got covered by a bucket of cold wet salty slush.
You should have seen the way she looked at me.
My Civic never did rust out for some reason, it just kept going and going.
I only quit driving it when I got a sweet little '78 MGB.
I never had a car that gave so much for so little trouble, not even the FB's.