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Old 08-09-13, 01:05 PM
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Simply amazing. I operate CnC equipment in our shop, we have a 7'x14' 150a HDplasma, 5'x10' 50k waterjet w/ taper control, and we just got our first 3-in-1 (hobby level) Patriot CnC as a starter machine to get into precision machining outside of flat cutting.

How did you determine the correct layout and dimensions of the 4-rotor you are building? Did you design it from the ground up or start with something and take measurements?
Old 08-27-13, 01:26 PM
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I have looked at 20B-shaft and 13B-shaft. Then measured, searched for info and designed.

Havn't done much lately, but have done some with the steering, the wattlink and finally some on the intermediate-plates.

This was a LEGO i designed
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And this is how that goes in the car.
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Here the intermediate-plate is prepared for the bearing
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Old 09-04-13, 01:53 PM
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Those are some robust uprights! In your design, did you perform an FEA? Also do you plan to install the steering rack below the frame rail or above?
Old 09-18-13, 12:02 AM
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They are my own design yes. Better safe than sorry, but no FEA on those.
The steering rack will be below the frame.
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what size throttle bodies are you going with?

im starting to shop for my 4 rotor build and was thinking on 50mm tb's but that also seems a bit small..
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Havn't desided yet. But I'm thinking of 50mm also. Will have the runners about 50mm, so it would suit.
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awesome work! this project goes beyond most peoples comprehension of "custom" two of my favorite automotive mfg's, mazda and Volvo.. I would love to rotary swap a p1800, with your help of course
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Have lately spent some time with the porting of the engine. Most in SolidWorks, but also in reality.

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Thought I run with V-band instead of what is in the renderings. However, I must turning one half of the V-band myself, and it seems difficult to find the measure of it.
If anyone has seen it, or know how they should look like, I am receptive :-) Happy to metric! The tubes I intend to use is 50x2, ie 46mm internally.
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Will blocking off that entire coolant passage effect reliability?
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All PP's are blocked on the cold side around the intake som I'm not worried :-)
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Originally Posted by driftxsequence
Will blocking off that entire coolant passage effect reliability?
That's the coldest part of the engine, so it should be OK. As he said, all pports have to do this. It's the give and take with this setup.
PPorts are generally less reliable than side ports, due to a number of factors(including use and rpms, etc.).
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The renderings of your solidworks models are fantastic, wish I could get proE to look half that good. Might I ask how you got all of the dimensions for your coolant passages, or did you just measure each round individually?
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Thanks, I think Solid does a good job :-)
The answer is measure, measure and some measure... Its time consuming, but in my opinion worth it in the end.

I like this one to. Would say 99% acurate to the real thing. Took me a few hours to measure.

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I got all my published renderings at:

http://s815.photobucket.com/albums/z...142/SolidWorks
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wow, very impressive CAD work!
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Continued today with the trash-housing.
Did a test sleeve in the cnc-lathe. I am very satisfied with this. Have minor improvements to do with the real ones later.

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man!!! i must come to sweden to see this project!! awesome project. keep up the good work
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First time I've ever seen someone put in a threaded sleeve!
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I'm looking an flexplate from a Automatic FD (or FC if they ever was made?)
Anyone?

My flywheel is going to so small so I need the flexplate to start the engine :-)
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Originally Posted by tegheim
I'm looking an flexplate from a Automatic FD (or FC if they ever was made?)
Anyone?

My flywheel is going to so small so I need the flexplate to start the engine :-)
They were both available in automatic but you're most likely to find one from a 20B swap.
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Originally Posted by tegheim
I'm looking an flexplate from a Automatic FD (or FC if they ever was made?)
Anyone?

My flywheel is going to so small so I need the flexplate to start the engine :-)
All automatic FCs were non-turbo (in the US at least) so they have smaller diameter flywheels... You're going to want an FD flex plate.

or you might be able to make one....

mazdatrix also has some nice ones that accept small clutches:
http://www.mazdatrix.com/r-clutch-flywheel.htm
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In this case you're right. I need the bigger flywheel because of my gearbox.

But, why should the smaller flywheel from N/A be less better in other considerations?


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