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Old 07-07-08, 08:33 AM
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Beautiful welding, you must have neat handwriting

I see a pair of 1600's but what are the sizes on the other two pairs?

Looks great!
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this is STILL not done? i mean, i guess it looks okay so far but COME ON!
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Originally Posted by NOPR
this is STILL not done? i mean, i guess it looks okay so far but COME ON!


let me see u build this quality while having to wait for your boss to leave each day so u dont have to explain yourself.
not to mention that he is in a realm of his own where he cant ask anyone for help or question on the design
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how will it idles
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Originally Posted by NOPR
this is STILL not done? i mean, i guess it looks okay so far but COME ON!
Yea man you cant be serious.

That intake manifold is a work of art. It looks Awesome!!!!!!
Old 07-08-08, 02:21 AM
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that last pic is sex.

how do u plan on fitting in the butterflies?

videos are a must when it gets started!!!
Old 07-08-08, 02:53 AM
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Like everyone else says, good ******* work.
But hypothetically speaking, if your boss found out, what kind of **** would you be in? lol, sorry, just curious
Old 07-08-08, 06:11 AM
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Haha, NOPRs sarcasm lost once again. How bouts you come down and install some stuff for me while I am away? I have alot of sound deadening that needs chipped out...

There is room for 2x1000cc injectors and 4x1680cc injectors, and I have TERRIBLE handwriting.
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I'm a little confused....are you going to have 2 injectors before the butterflies?
Won’t this cause a problem at idle?

BTW: looking good, can't wait to see and hear it run!!
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No butterflies, aren't you guys reading/following the pictures? Barrel throttles. I'm guessing the secound set of injectors are staged, so they'll only be on in wide open throttle situation. Great work, I been watching silently.

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Originally Posted by whereiscarmensandiego
let me see u build this quality while having to wait for your boss to leave each day so u dont have to explain yourself.
not to mention that he is in a realm of his own where he cant ask anyone for help or question on the design

Originally Posted by siguy2k
Yea man you cant be serious.

That intake manifold is a work of art. It looks Awesome!!!!!!
dude, you guys are as dumb as rocks.
Old 07-08-08, 12:27 PM
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^Dumb as rocks cuz i skimmed through it only reading some of the OP's posts and looking at pictures. Now its obvious that they know each other and it was sarcastic. Either way it is looking really, really good. If thats all you had to say then STFO.
Old 07-08-08, 02:33 PM
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Sorry to get into this thread a little late. Did you by any chance do much research on injector placement? I have an ae86 with a toyota 20v in it. It has itb's stock. So due to that fact i have researched itb's a lot. Apparently a lot of research from various f1 companies have showed different gains and losses from having injectors before or after the throttle plates. Some run them before and after. From what i understand it effects fuel atomization. I dont however know how that would work with your revolving door throttles you have going on there. Just some food for thought. You might be able to place 2 of your 4 before the throttles. Maybe the bigger of the 4 if you are still running staged injectors. Hope that helps if you havent already thought of that.
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Originally Posted by hsitko
Sorry to get into this thread a little late. Did you by any chance do much research on injector placement? I have an ae86 with a toyota 20v in it. It has itb's stock. So due to that fact i have researched itb's a lot. Apparently a lot of research from various f1 companies have showed different gains and losses from having injectors before or after the throttle plates. Some run them before and after. From what i understand it effects fuel atomization. I dont however know how that would work with your revolving door throttles you have going on there. Just some food for thought. You might be able to place 2 of your 4 before the throttles. Maybe the bigger of the 4 if you are still running staged injectors. Hope that helps if you havent already thought of that.
If you look closely, he has 2 before and 4 after...
Old 07-08-08, 04:19 PM
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Oh cool! I didnt see that other guy hiding there. Wowie thats a lot of fueling! Nice this should be really interesting to watch progress.
Old 07-08-08, 04:43 PM
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The secondaries "add" the heat vaporization factor to the equation.

Old 07-08-08, 04:48 PM
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I want to play with myself everytime I look at this intake

Old 07-08-08, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DelSlow
Haha, NOPRs sarcasm lost once again.
Haha I'm sorry, I'll stop.

You see, compared to anyone else in the world Nate gets **** done at an ungodly rate of speed, i mean who seriously does this much design and fabrication this fast? All while attending school and/or working!

Originally Posted by DelSlow
How bouts you come down and install some stuff for me while I am away? I have alot of sound deadening that needs chipped out... There is room for 2x1000cc injectors and 4x1680cc injectors, and I have TERRIBLE handwriting.
You really want me to install stuff? are you crazy!? You'd probably get annoyed by how slow I am. You also live pretty far away and the times that I am in Ohio I'm usually swamped with **** to do.

Dry Ice does wonders for that sound deadening **** though...
Old 07-08-08, 05:23 PM
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This build is badass. I wish I had access to the tools to do this myself as well.

I have a dremel though.
Old 07-08-08, 08:35 PM
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Superb craftsmanship but you may need to reconsider the location of the lower left injector rail underneath your TB's. Spraying the fuel at a 90degree angle in relation to the incoming air flow will have a negative effect on how the air enters the engine when they come on line. The fuel wont atomize at all like that. The last thing you need is the fuel puddling up on the runner walls and dripping into the engine. Your top fuel rail however is perfectly angled. Lastly at what stage are you going to bring those pre TB injectors online? I ask this because since they are mounted on the bottom, you need to make sure the throttle opening rolls counter clock-wise. This way the fuel doesn't spray directly into the rolling throttle sides.

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Old 07-08-08, 09:55 PM
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I just finished reading all 9 pages of this thread... and all I can say is wow. Just wow!

Your definitely going to go far in life with such talent and motivation. Keep up the good work mate, can't wait to see it running.
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With a barrel style tb, there is always going to be the possibility that some fuel from the injectors mounted in front can puddle in the barrel when the throttle is closed. It's going to happen to some extent even if it's a small amount. That's a fact. The question is will it be a negligible effect that isn't noticable or will it cause problems? One way to find out I guess! That's the best way though. I'm a firm believer in trying things to see what happens. At least NEW things that countless others haven't already failed at. I think this qualifies!
Old 07-09-08, 11:09 AM
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looks good man, i cant believe this is the first time i came across your build. i was wondering what you've been up to and now i finally know! hopefully i'll see you around town or something, my car should be back from defined soon.
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Originally Posted by t-von
Superb craftsmanship but you may need to reconsider the location of the lower left injector rail underneath your TB's. Spraying the fuel at a 90degree angle in relation to the incoming air flow will have a negative effect on how the air enters the engine when they come on line. The fuel wont atomize at all like that.
Stock primary injectors face the runners at 90 degrees, and the fuel atomizes just fine.
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Originally Posted by scathcart
Stock primary injectors face the runners at 90 degrees, and the fuel atomizes just fine.

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