Legally sanctioned racing section?
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Seriously, it would help. You CAN be killed for your actions. If that would get it through the skulls of some people that street racing is stupid, I am all for it.
I'd hazard a guess and say that the entire 3rd gen section, most of the 2nd gen, and even some of the 1st have gone well beyond the legal speed limit. You can't say you've never gone more than 10mph over the speed limit. You own an RX-7, it's physically impossible. That being said, you don't do it through the middle of a residential area do you? Of course not. Do dumbass teenagers? More than we'd imagine, I'd wager. So when they do stupid things like that, who's going to berate them? If there isn't anybody around to witness it, like a cop who writes a ticket or somebody who knows the kids parents, who's going to correct that behavior? Nobody, until that same kid comes and posts about it on these boards, like Naimodo, who then gets flamed for acting like a moron. You say you don't want posts like that, well guess what, he's never come back to the board and I'd be willing to bet that he's never done anything stupid like that again.
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From: Greenwood/Hartsville, SC.
And now we're talking about speeding in general? You're going to prohibit anyone from posting about speeding too???
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I know you guys are volunteers but that still doesnt mean you arent employees of theirs and dont reflect upon them. If you were to volunteer somewhere else in teh real world, and you were too get told to do something you would have to listen to the person higher up. Or if you did something stupid at this place it doesnt reflect upon the place that you are at? "Oh dont worry about him hes just a volunteer."
Drive to Live
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From: texas
no merlin you cannot talk about speeding here! heaven forbid we mod out our FD's for that reason! i mean really we just upgrade our rides to hit 30mph speed limit alot faster than your average econobox. speeding and racing pssshhh who would ever do such a thing?
Do the Mods really get so bored that they have to break something that does not need to be fixed in the first place? Just like the enforcement in the for sale section. No heads up or even taking the time to change the rules in the section that are still posted from the old mods.
Well I'm glad that you mods are doing this for the right reason... oh wait a minute, you aren't. Well its too bad that because someone became a statistic you will assume that it is a widespread cause of death in out society.
its not. check the stats, Im thinking perhaps someone watches too much TV. You know that thing in your living room that is contributing heavily on the fact that punishment is the main form of behavior modification in north america (like the fear motives). The reason that there has been a shift in the minds of the people of our continent to the "fortress mentality" (aka. fearing everything outside your home)... no no that couldnt be, all the mods on here could see past a stupid thing like that.
its not. check the stats, Im thinking perhaps someone watches too much TV. You know that thing in your living room that is contributing heavily on the fact that punishment is the main form of behavior modification in north america (like the fear motives). The reason that there has been a shift in the minds of the people of our continent to the "fortress mentality" (aka. fearing everything outside your home)... no no that couldnt be, all the mods on here could see past a stupid thing like that.
Last edited by 1.3Ldreamcar; Mar 27, 2008 at 10:02 AM.
In just acceleration, sure you can beat supercars with a well built FD. Like I explained earlier though, this only further proves your ignorance of what sports cars are built to do. With that mentality you could instead buy a 5.0 Mustang and build that to beat supercars, go home and post kills about it and act like you've conquered the world. Hell, the person with the 5.0 could brag about beating an "overpriced" FD. As soon as the road curves though, it would be damn near impossible to build an FD to beat stock supercars while being just as reliable, comfortable, and street legal.
Once again, you are sadly mistaken if you think you need $100,000 to be able to race legally. At minimum all you need is a bone stock car that can pass safety inspection and less than $400 for one track day. Less after you are out of the novice class and no longer need an instructor. You don't need a truck, trailer, garage space, fuel cell or a roll cage. Drag racing or autocrossing is even cheaper at less than $50 for an event.
I will also disagree at street racing being the same thing as track racing, not even close. If you're into long stretches of highway, all it takes is that one speed trap or mechanical failure and its all over. This is assuming that you are REALLY racing (100mph+), not doing 0-80mph runs, or 2nd gear (40-90mph) runs because thats slow. Racing on deserted twisty roads is a little easier to get away with but all it takes is that one deer, or that one loose or worn out part, or inattentive driver crossing the double yellow and you're done. You will also usually be nervous around police and often be ticketed for equipment violations.
Thanks for the suggestion but I'll be alright, maybe you should instead take racing up as something more than just a hobby and you might understand why real car enthusiasts chose to do it legally. An English class would help too, with your punctuation and spelling errors and lack of comprehension. Re-read my post and you will understand that I have street raced and I wasn't speaking against it. All I was explaining was how dumb the threads in the kill section are and my inability to understand the hype behind beating someone in a race and telling everyone about it, like 'OMG I KILLED THIS CIVIC ON MY WAY HOME'.
At least 70% of the threads in kill section resemble the example I posted and thats exactly why I'm happy its pretty much gone.
Once again, you are sadly mistaken if you think you need $100,000 to be able to race legally. At minimum all you need is a bone stock car that can pass safety inspection and less than $400 for one track day. Less after you are out of the novice class and no longer need an instructor. You don't need a truck, trailer, garage space, fuel cell or a roll cage. Drag racing or autocrossing is even cheaper at less than $50 for an event.
I will also disagree at street racing being the same thing as track racing, not even close. If you're into long stretches of highway, all it takes is that one speed trap or mechanical failure and its all over. This is assuming that you are REALLY racing (100mph+), not doing 0-80mph runs, or 2nd gear (40-90mph) runs because thats slow. Racing on deserted twisty roads is a little easier to get away with but all it takes is that one deer, or that one loose or worn out part, or inattentive driver crossing the double yellow and you're done. You will also usually be nervous around police and often be ticketed for equipment violations.
Thanks for the suggestion but I'll be alright, maybe you should instead take racing up as something more than just a hobby and you might understand why real car enthusiasts chose to do it legally. An English class would help too, with your punctuation and spelling errors and lack of comprehension. Re-read my post and you will understand that I have street raced and I wasn't speaking against it. All I was explaining was how dumb the threads in the kill section are and my inability to understand the hype behind beating someone in a race and telling everyone about it, like 'OMG I KILLED THIS CIVIC ON MY WAY HOME'.
At least 70% of the threads in kill section resemble the example I posted and thats exactly why I'm happy its pretty much gone.
2-ohh ok, so we are driving our road legal FC with 160hp to a drag event... that sounds like a bundle of fun!
3-ironically, my dad raced in the CASCAR (canadian version of nascar) series for years. He was in several accidents that seriously endangered his life. Why? on a track, you can push it as hard as you want and think you are "invulnerable", if you are responsible on the street yes you assume risk, but you certainly dont push the car that hard (I hope not anyways)
4- ya, my bad punctuation and spelling explains why I have a higher income then most people ($85,000/ya, soon to be $120,000) before I even had a degree or my 25th birthday.
5- ya 70% of the threads in the kill section are silly, and pretty much redundant. But the other 30% is what keeps this forum as the home page on a lot of members cpus.
Last edited by 1.3Ldreamcar; Mar 27, 2008 at 10:06 AM.
1- the stock FD is capable of out-handling a lot of super cars, look up the specs. Nevermind one with fender flears rolling on tires twice a wide as stock, and a beefed up suspension
2-ohh ok, so we are driving our road legal FC with 160hp to a drag event... that sounds like a bundle of fun!
3-ironically, my dad raced in the CASCAR (canadian version of nascar) series for years. He was in several accidents that seriously endangered his life. Why? on a track, you can push it as hard as you want and think you are "invulnerable", if you are responsible on the street yes you assume risk, but you certainly dont push the car that hard (I hope not anyways)
4- ya, my bad punctuation and spelling explains why I have a higher income then most people ($85,000/ya, soon to be $120,000) before I even had a degree or my 25th birthday.
5- ya 70% of the threads in the kill section are silly, and pretty much redundant. But the other 30% is what keeps this forum as the home page on a lot of members cpus.
2-ohh ok, so we are driving our road legal FC with 160hp to a drag event... that sounds like a bundle of fun!
3-ironically, my dad raced in the CASCAR (canadian version of nascar) series for years. He was in several accidents that seriously endangered his life. Why? on a track, you can push it as hard as you want and think you are "invulnerable", if you are responsible on the street yes you assume risk, but you certainly dont push the car that hard (I hope not anyways)
4- ya, my bad punctuation and spelling explains why I have a higher income then most people ($85,000/ya, soon to be $120,000) before I even had a degree or my 25th birthday.
5- ya 70% of the threads in the kill section are silly, and pretty much redundant. But the other 30% is what keeps this forum as the home page on a lot of members cpus.
No.I never said anything about taking an FC to a drag event, I was explaining how cheap the sport is...once again with the lack of comprehension
Wow, CASCAR huh
. HPDE's are a lot different than NASCAR/CASCAR since there are passing restrictions and instructors. Not only that but track events aren't necessarily "racing" events since there is no speed competition whatsoever between the cars. So, the only way to street race is to be slow and not push hard. Enjoy it then, it must be cool to act like Vin Diesel Driving at 150+ on a public highway in a car with a driver that can't turn or brake for **** (in case of an emergency) is PUSHING IT. So is maxing out the cornering abilities of your car on a twisty road.So since you like to get personal, I see that you own a Supra with an ugly *** body kit and a big wing, and an FD with cheap *** wheels. This really says a lot about you and I can't say I'm surprised. Its real cute that you got your degree and whatnot (rather hard to believe looking at the cars you own and the FS threads), but once again, when you take cars up as more than a hobby you might realize why we chose to do it legally. Maybe the new kill section is a sign for you and all the other fake *** "street racers" to GTFO
I think too many of you have gotten into the automotive performance scene after watching the fast and the furious movies. The common goal here seems to be to modify your car ONLY to drive fast to work or during a commute, like legal forms of motorsport don't even exist. The forum is just that much better now with the idiots that will be leaving.
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What "specs" are you speaking of? Seriously, I'm sure the FD can be faster than a lot of competitors that cost more but supercars? No.
You keep talking about people and their ignorance, well yours is showing right now. Not only can an FD be made to go faster in a straight line, it can also out handle them. A stock FD, which was tested back with '93 tire tech, can out pull a Lamborghini Gallardo on a skidpad. I'm sure with modern tires that the FD's skidpad number would go way up, and destroy some of these "super" cars you seem to idolize so much.
Wow, CASCAR huh . HPDE's are a lot different than NASCAR/CASCAR since there are passing restrictions and instructors. Not only that but track events aren't necessarily "racing" events since there is no speed competition whatsoever between the cars. So, the only way to street race is to be slow and not push hard. Enjoy it then, it must be cool to act like Vin Diesel Driving at 150+ on a public highway in a car with a driver that can't turn or brake for **** (in case of an emergency) is PUSHING IT. So is maxing out the cornering abilities of your car on a twisty road.
Now you're just making stuff up. Who said anything about driving 150+ on the road? Don't try to make up facts just so it fits your point of view.
So since you like to get personal, I see that you own a Supra with an ugly *** body kit and a big wing, and an FD with cheap *** wheels. This really says a lot about you and I can't say I'm surprised. Its real cute that you got your degree and whatnot (rather hard to believe looking at the cars you own and the FS threads), but once again, when you take cars up as more than a hobby you might realize why we chose to do it legally. Maybe the new kill section is a sign for you and all the other fake *** "street racers" to GTFO
So now you're saying you've taken up cars as more than a hobby? Hate to break it to you, but dragging your POS 2nd gen around a track at a few NASA events doesn't exactly make you Mario Andretti. And where do you get off bagging on his car? In your list of ext./int. mods in your VBGarage you have "Cheap Maaco Paintjob" and "some CD player that flips around when turned off". Woah there big spender, try not to flaunt your economic status so much.
I think too many of you have gotten into the automotive performance scene after watching the fast and the furious movies. The common goal here seems to be to modify your car ONLY to drive fast to work or during a commute, like legal forms of motorsport don't even exist. The forum is just that much better now with the idiots that will be leaving.
No.You keep talking about people and their ignorance, well yours is showing right now. Not only can an FD be made to go faster in a straight line, it can also out handle them. A stock FD, which was tested back with '93 tire tech, can out pull a Lamborghini Gallardo on a skidpad. I'm sure with modern tires that the FD's skidpad number would go way up, and destroy some of these "super" cars you seem to idolize so much.
Wow, CASCAR huh
. HPDE's are a lot different than NASCAR/CASCAR since there are passing restrictions and instructors. Not only that but track events aren't necessarily "racing" events since there is no speed competition whatsoever between the cars. So, the only way to street race is to be slow and not push hard. Enjoy it then, it must be cool to act like Vin Diesel Driving at 150+ on a public highway in a car with a driver that can't turn or brake for **** (in case of an emergency) is PUSHING IT. So is maxing out the cornering abilities of your car on a twisty road.Now you're just making stuff up. Who said anything about driving 150+ on the road? Don't try to make up facts just so it fits your point of view.
So since you like to get personal, I see that you own a Supra with an ugly *** body kit and a big wing, and an FD with cheap *** wheels. This really says a lot about you and I can't say I'm surprised. Its real cute that you got your degree and whatnot (rather hard to believe looking at the cars you own and the FS threads), but once again, when you take cars up as more than a hobby you might realize why we chose to do it legally. Maybe the new kill section is a sign for you and all the other fake *** "street racers" to GTFO
So now you're saying you've taken up cars as more than a hobby? Hate to break it to you, but dragging your POS 2nd gen around a track at a few NASA events doesn't exactly make you Mario Andretti. And where do you get off bagging on his car? In your list of ext./int. mods in your VBGarage you have "Cheap Maaco Paintjob" and "some CD player that flips around when turned off". Woah there big spender, try not to flaunt your economic status so much.
I think too many of you have gotten into the automotive performance scene after watching the fast and the furious movies. The common goal here seems to be to modify your car ONLY to drive fast to work or during a commute, like legal forms of motorsport don't even exist. The forum is just that much better now with the idiots that will be leaving.
Drive to Live
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From: texas
That's funny, it looks like the idiots are still here. ^ I love how you're so self-righteous about this, but on your myspace page listed under general interests you have "Building, restoring, modifying and driving older Japanese cars for road racing, autocrossing, touge-style street and highway racing. So you're actually some wanna be self-hating Drift King. You go on to presumptively say we've gotten into cars because of F&F, but you list your favorite movies as "Gone In 60 Seconds" and "Initial D". Yeah, that's soooo much better.
also khanartist i am not aware the common goal here is to mod out our FDs spending 1,000s of our hard earned dollars to get to work faster? its a bonus im sure, but when you add in traffic, stop lights, and of course the police you will get to work no quicker than usual without breaking traffic laws needlessly. early traffic hours are also times where its not smart at all to step on it either. there is always a time and a place to speed, but during these times its not wise if you want to be walking free or live longer.
Last edited by wolf_9782; Mar 27, 2008 at 03:00 PM.
Have fun! Enjoy life!
Wow you guys are being Bitches!
I mean this isn't a thread about you and fast and furious and how you suck bad on a track is it? NO!
Ok, now that we're back on track, or off of the track, I feel that the "Legally sanctioned racing section" is Bullshit.
Is this even a forum anymore or a ******* advertisement... everyday seems like more of an advertisement. Why did we sign up here? To discuss, and comment, and ask questions about RX7's!!!
I'm so tired of America, and Polititians, and Tree Huggers and *****'s telling me what I Can and Can't do or say! So I say "F you!" (eminem had it right)
I raced a SOB on the way to work today! ON THE STREETS! Whats the problem w/ that? He was the **** who was being aggressive... cutting people off and now he want's to race me so he can merge! Well Mr. I'm gonna cut you and eveyone else off because I gotta get to my +$100k a year desk job where I do nothing but tell smarter people to do the work I'm supposed to do! NOT TODAY! AND NOT TOMORROW EITHER!
Here's how it went down:
I rev my 22re engine w/ no cats! Brraaaammm! Stuff, her into 1st and wait for the green. Take a quick glance in my mirror to make sure there are no Police back there... I don't want any speeding tickets or racing tickets! eek! Nope. As I Glance over at that SOB in his Pontiac Cross fire I notice the other light turning yellow.
Left hand, Grip the Wheel. Right hand, wait for 2nd gear.
Light Turns Green! I give 'er some revs to get the 33" Super Swamper Radials turning, slowly easing into the clutch as to not stall the little 22re. He chirps his little tires as he passes over the crosswalk lines. Now I'm nearing my 5200rpm redline (or at least where the power falls off) just across the intersection. I double-clutch and SLAM her into second, with a slight grlg as the gears mesh. I slip the clutch as to keep her in the power range! This is when he starts pulling on me, as his car probably has a few more ponies than mine. While I've got the Pedal to the Metal he pulls about 2 cars on me and procedes to merge. I cry "Nooooo" and I think to myself "Next time you son of a bitch, Your mine."
Lesson learned: Strike while the irons hot. Do unto others as others do unto you. 1 bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. Street racing can be fun! Don't be a friggin moron and drive on the streets like your on a race track!
People die street racing, People die driving to work, people die on airplanes, People die on boats, People DIE.
PLEASE let everyone make they're own decisions, as it could, possibly be they're last! EVERONE! EVERYDAY! FOREVER!
Have a nice day! It may be your last...
I mean this isn't a thread about you and fast and furious and how you suck bad on a track is it? NO!
Ok, now that we're back on track, or off of the track, I feel that the "Legally sanctioned racing section" is Bullshit.
Is this even a forum anymore or a ******* advertisement... everyday seems like more of an advertisement. Why did we sign up here? To discuss, and comment, and ask questions about RX7's!!!
I'm so tired of America, and Polititians, and Tree Huggers and *****'s telling me what I Can and Can't do or say! So I say "F you!" (eminem had it right)
I raced a SOB on the way to work today! ON THE STREETS! Whats the problem w/ that? He was the **** who was being aggressive... cutting people off and now he want's to race me so he can merge! Well Mr. I'm gonna cut you and eveyone else off because I gotta get to my +$100k a year desk job where I do nothing but tell smarter people to do the work I'm supposed to do! NOT TODAY! AND NOT TOMORROW EITHER!
Here's how it went down:
I rev my 22re engine w/ no cats! Brraaaammm! Stuff, her into 1st and wait for the green. Take a quick glance in my mirror to make sure there are no Police back there... I don't want any speeding tickets or racing tickets! eek! Nope. As I Glance over at that SOB in his Pontiac Cross fire I notice the other light turning yellow.
Left hand, Grip the Wheel. Right hand, wait for 2nd gear.
Light Turns Green! I give 'er some revs to get the 33" Super Swamper Radials turning, slowly easing into the clutch as to not stall the little 22re. He chirps his little tires as he passes over the crosswalk lines. Now I'm nearing my 5200rpm redline (or at least where the power falls off) just across the intersection. I double-clutch and SLAM her into second, with a slight grlg as the gears mesh. I slip the clutch as to keep her in the power range! This is when he starts pulling on me, as his car probably has a few more ponies than mine. While I've got the Pedal to the Metal he pulls about 2 cars on me and procedes to merge. I cry "Nooooo" and I think to myself "Next time you son of a bitch, Your mine."
Lesson learned: Strike while the irons hot. Do unto others as others do unto you. 1 bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. Street racing can be fun! Don't be a friggin moron and drive on the streets like your on a race track!
People die street racing, People die driving to work, people die on airplanes, People die on boats, People DIE.
PLEASE let everyone make they're own decisions, as it could, possibly be they're last! EVERONE! EVERYDAY! FOREVER!
Have a nice day! It may be your last...
Drive to Live
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From: texas
ok so maybe some guy's goals are to get to work faster... i stand corrected 
but at least it isnt my goal, thats what my DD is for gettin to work and savin gas on the monster.
i also notice many people have a superiority "this lane is mine" complex that provokes a "streetrace"
but at least it isnt my goal, thats what my DD is for gettin to work and savin gas on the monster.
i also notice many people have a superiority "this lane is mine" complex that provokes a "streetrace"
Last edited by wolf_9782; Mar 27, 2008 at 03:27 PM.
I don't race to work to see how fast I can get there.
I try to have fun, ****'s and giggles! Racing a'holes in my slow *** truck is funny to me! Losing isn't as funny... still fun non the less.
Fun, its this thing you did when you were young. Some of us people enjoy life.
Some a'holes have a 'I'm not going to merge when the sign directs me to!' complex...
Or I'm late and getting one car ahead will get me there on time even if I have to cause an accident. complex...
I try to have fun, ****'s and giggles! Racing a'holes in my slow *** truck is funny to me! Losing isn't as funny... still fun non the less.
Fun, its this thing you did when you were young. Some of us people enjoy life.
Some a'holes have a 'I'm not going to merge when the sign directs me to!' complex...
Or I'm late and getting one car ahead will get me there on time even if I have to cause an accident. complex...
That's funny, it looks like the idiots are still here. ^ I love how you're so self-righteous about this, but on your myspace page listed under general interests you have "Building, restoring, modifying and driving older Japanese cars for road racing, autocrossing, touge-style street and highway racing. So you're actually some wanna be self-hating Drift King. You go on to presumptively say we've gotten into cars because of F&F, but you list your favorite movies as "Gone In 60 Seconds" and "Initial D". Yeah, that's soooo much better.
did you at least like it? 
Once again I have and will continue to street race in the future, I have absolutely no problem with it. I used to go to the drag races all the time when I lived in VA every weekend and it was a blast, especially when people wrecked 
I love highway racing and racing on twisty back roads, as stupid as it may be. Young and dumb right? I have yet to feel the excitement I get out of running my favorite twisty (3mi+) road or cornering at 110mph+ on highways at a driving event. I don't, however enjoy sharing my experiences with anyone other than my friends. I don't recall saying anything about drifting either 
Initial D and Gone in 60 seconds are both badass movies, gone in 60 seconds shows fast street driving with exotics and Initial D shows the mountain racing scene in Japan. FNF is neither, its a horrible attempt by Americans to show what street racing with imports is all about.
And wolf_9782 you have pointed out the most basic of facts. I think I learned that within a few weeks of learning how to drive an automobile, but thanks. Looks like you didn't catch the sarcasm, that its useless to have a fast car to go to work unless you live in the boonies and have flat open roads with no lights or twisties, whichever you prefer. It was directed against the "I didn't build my FD to drive 30mph" comments since some people actually build fast cars only to drive them hard at legal driving events and street racing doesn't even cross their mind.
Bad form sir.
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LOL, wow Merlin I am truly ******* amazed that you went through the trouble of looking through my myspace
Clicking on the link in your profile isn't actually as hard as you might think it is.
did you at least like it?
It was fabulous.
Once again I have and will continue to street race in the future, I have absolutely no problem with it. I used to go to the drag races all the time when I lived in VA every weekend and it was a blast, especially when people wrecked I love highway racing and racing on twisty back roads, as stupid as it may be. Young and dumb right? I have yet to feel the excitement I get out of running my favorite twisty (3mi+) road or cornering at 110mph+ on highways at a driving event. I don't, however enjoy sharing my experiences with anyone other than my friends. I don't recall saying anything about drifting either
Clicking on the link in your profile isn't actually as hard as you might think it is.
did you at least like it?
It was fabulous.
Once again I have and will continue to street race in the future, I have absolutely no problem with it. I used to go to the drag races all the time when I lived in VA every weekend and it was a blast, especially when people wrecked
I love highway racing and racing on twisty back roads, as stupid as it may be. Young and dumb right? I have yet to feel the excitement I get out of running my favorite twisty (3mi+) road or cornering at 110mph+ on highways at a driving event. I don't, however enjoy sharing my experiences with anyone other than my friends. I don't recall saying anything about drifting either 
, my mistake, I'm not big on anime.
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From: Colorado Springs, CO
Some of the most entertaining meetings I've had on the road were because of a spectacular win or loss. It's the most fun when everyone is just enjoying themselves!
In contrast to a lot of people on the road, loathing everyone else on the road because it's YOUR road, YOU have to get to work NOW, and everyone should get out of YOUR way so you tailgate and cut people off and disregard safety precautions because YOU getting where YOU want is more important than others' lives.
There's not a lot that makes me happier longer on the road than sharing a smile and maybe a thumbs up with someone who just won or lost against me.
You know the two most dangerous things that happened to me today were? NOT that I discreetly hit 125, NOT that I did 0-60 in 7 seconds, no, it was two different people (one highway, one in town) that would have switched lanes right into me because they didn't watch where they were going. I had to honk at both of them to make them aware I was there, one of them even tried TWICE before relenting. THOSE are the kinds of things that get more people killed and cause more damage. Street racing is sensational and easy to target because the vast majority of people don't do it. Nearly EVERYONE drives, and nearly EVERYONE drives POORLY, yet there's NO ******* WAR AGAINST SHITTY DRIVERS, IS THERE?! Shitty drivers kill tens of thousands on US roads every year. So while street racing may have a higher ratio of deaths to participants, if we had to pick one or the other to combat, which would save the most lives? Keeping total dipshits off the roads? Or pursuing the relative handful of people who partake in spirited sport competition once in a while? It seems most people think we would somehow save countless lives by eliminating street racing, why else would they be so vehement about it? Can someone tell me? Why do people think street racing is the worst evil on our roads? It's NOT because they've considered which pursuit would save the most lives, I can tell you that much.
As far as street racing, the added safety of most enthusiasts knowing the cornering and braking limits of their cars cancel out with the occasional speeding. Makes them safer than most drivers anyway.