JSmith0101

iTrader: (6)

That's a stretch of an argument.

you're a street racer too, aren't you?

Loser.

CrackHeadMel

iTrader: (2)

lol, i dont think so, not last i checked

for current pics of my car check... http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...kheadmel/****/


also, im not saying we should loose thoes sections, im just saying, if there reason for dropping the kills section is because a portion of them are about illlegal races, then all the other forums that cover subjects that are illegal would have to go the same way to make it fair

JSmith0101

iTrader: (6)

I forgot about that! How's she coming?

All the modifications can easily be argued for track use only.

Your argument just became bunk.

CrackHeadMel

iTrader: (2)

Well if you uninstall that pfc and turbo when you pull off the track onto the street, sure, ill go with that...

JSmith0101

iTrader: (6)

Or trailer it.

I've had this argument in depth with a state trooper, please don't make me do it all over again.

CrackHeadMel

iTrader: (2)

the state trooper was arguing with you over a car you were trailering?

JSmith0101

iTrader: (6)

A car I was driving.

He said my muffler was illegal, I said he needed to provide me with evidence.

He printed out the WIDOT code that I violated by being louder than stock.

We then discussed the cloudiness of the law and agreed it needed to be changed. He agreed with me, but still gave me a ticket.

CrackHeadMel

iTrader: (2)

I have a few of thoes tickets, never went as far with fighting them as you did

at that point you should have asked 'how loud stock is' and how loud is your car



as far as my car, heres a few parts ive gathered over the last week


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...d/DSC01923.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...d/DSC01922.jpg
gt4202
5" exhaust for my dp
flanges in the mail, just have to order pipe for the mani

JSmith0101

iTrader: (6)

I laughed when he saw my RB presilencer and called it a cat.

I would like to see what you've got, in my FB. Pretty much exactly what I want, and I would street it all the time. God, would I kill Road America.

How's the FC coming?

1.3Ldreamcar

iTrader: (1)

+1 I couldn't have said it better myself.

I sure hope this is not the staff of this website simply heeding to those who consistently flame street racing threads, who have, no doubt contacted you. You see the car culture = street racing. period.

I dont know about you, but I do not know a single person who has the financial backing, know-how, or even the desire to participate in a "sanctioned" or legal racing scene who is under 30. Furthermore, in rural areas this is simply not an option. Check out the geographic distribution of race tracks. There are simply no race tracks close to many cities under 50,000 people. please not that by close I am talking about a <4hr drive, with a car on a trailer, and a truck capable of pulling all of this.

How many people do you guys honestly think own a true-roots sports car like an rx-7 and don't ever speed? So why even have a sports car forum? After all a forum like this is aiding people in making their cars faster and therefore is aiding those who WILL speed, speed more. (im pretty sure 95% of the people on this forum have fun in their cars once in a while via speeding and/or breaking other traffic laws)

Is being "politically correct" via essentially banning street racing stories going to get more people to this website? No. In fact people like myself, along with many many others i imagine will be going to alternative forums, where there is street racing chit-chat.

Lets think about this one. Why would a person of lower economic status pay an exorbitant amount of money to only be able to race or have fun in a car once every second weekend, in a car that is not street legal (cannot be driven any other time) and have to cough up the garage space (larger home associated with that), trailer (expensive), truck (at least as expensive as the car most likely) and all of the other costs associated with sanctioned racing, when he/she can simply go out on whatever day and race in a responsible manner on the street. The fact that street racing has been going on nearly as long as motorized vehicles and roads have been around tells you something... It is not going to stop!

Talking about it will increase the likelihood of future street racing if the people reading about it have not seen or heard about it before. How many people that own sports cars have not seen street racing at one point or another? In reality, the people who do stupid things and get flamed will at the vary least have an idea that what they are doing is irresponsible.

So in other words changing the "kills section" to the "legally sanctioned racing kills section" is not only detrimental to this forums' popularity, but the change itself is detrimental to the idea that is behind it: people will still be racing on the street, but now they will not come back here and have the people who have helped them with their carb issue/turbo spool problem, etc (whom they like and respect - in psychology this is called positive reference group, and their opinion is extremely highly valued - above the opinions of your mother or even the law) tell them that what they did was irresponsible/stupid because "racing on wet pavement is dangerous in a 500hp FD", or "racing through traffic is really stupid"

theres my $.02. thanks for reading

ps. I am in graduate studies at the university of manitoba for clinical psychology. I know what I am talking about when it comes to issues like group think (what I am essentially talking about in this rant)

JSmith0101

iTrader: (6)

So your degree gives you permission to street race?

It has been shown time and time again that street racing is more dangerous than just speeding. It is higher speeds than anybody would ever just do. Also, it impedes the flow of traffic.

Just because you can't race, doesn't mean you have a god given right to to race in public - endangering the public.

And I say good form to the forum bosses for showing their opposition to the street racing scene.

1.3Ldreamcar

iTrader: (1)

1- I didnt say that I street raced, but a fair assumption
2- It DOES allot the responsibility to me to set fallacies like "if 10 seasoned sports car owners witness a street race, it will increase the possibility of them racing in the future" straight. It will to a point, but the people racing irresponsibly will be flamed, and hence set in the right direction (or at least have an idea of what it even is)

we are talking about a ten-fold or more benefit to street racing behavior. like I said, nothing will stop it, but a forum full of people we admire telling us that racing in X and Y conditions is stupid, will help. A lot.

JSmith0101

iTrader: (6)

From what I've witnessed, people don't change like that.

XxMerlinxX

iTrader: (2)

It's not really opposition, it's more like turning a blind eye. They're not doing anything to stop it, they're just making it so you can't see what's going on.

XxMerlinxX

iTrader: (2)

I already gave one example where that happened. That "fagget integra" kid has already toned down his attitude. Peer pressure has a major effect on people.

JSmith0101

iTrader: (6)

Hate to disappoint, but I don't bookmark everything I read about streetracing.

And I am on the highway at that time, as well. Driving to work or from work.

It's the one guy you don't expect that matters.

XxMerlinxX

iTrader: (2)

It has nothing to do with not expecting anyone. If there's a 4 lane highway, or even a 2 lane road that is a good 3 miles long and is straight with no adjoining roads, there is no way a car is suddenly going to appear out of nowhere. The only thing that might appear is a deer and that's just one of the risks you take when you get into a car at night, no matter whether you're racing or not.

JSmith0101

iTrader: (6)

I won't disagree with you on that.

However, I will turn this into an insurance thing. If you do street race, please do it without a seatbelt, I don't want to pay for you to stay a vegetable.

SpeedOfLife

iTrader: (16)

If you make sure your headlights are on it shouldn't be an issue...

rowtareh?

iTrader: (1)

Why are you all still debating this? Stop wasting your time guys. Section is staying it like it is.

FC3Sbot

Haha, I eat vegetables. I think this debate is dumb. Yes, it is wrong for the forum mods to revoke the kills section in such a way. However, that is the price you pay for coming onto their site. The internet isn't a democracy and the power goes to those who pay for the hosting. The end.

XxMerlinxX

iTrader: (2)

Why is that? Will street racing videos be prohibited now on the rest of the board? Will underage drug and alcohol use posts be prohibited? What about the guy who goes to Colombia to sleep with young girls, he gonna get banned?

rowtareh?

iTrader: (1)

You must be really really bored to care about other stupid meaningless bullshit?


If you care so much about trolling/policing threads about underage drinking then feel free to moderate. Oh wait, you can't. I forgot.

XxMerlinxX

iTrader: (2)

That's what I thought.
That's a rather hypocritical statement, wouldn't you say? Unless you suddenly think Rich is rather pathetic.

Wotnartd, you're kinda in the same boat for being in such staunch disapproval of street racing. Since it was on Rome's streets instead of being in the US, does it not count?

SpeedOfLife

iTrader: (16)

Why are you telling us what not to do with our free time? We're interested in being heard. If you want us to shut up then you're going to have to do it by force. It won't be right, but hey, you'll still have your hollow forum.