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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 05:29 AM
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I was tempted to get rid of my 16” spare wheel now that I got the 17”. With the way things are going, I might just keep the 16 for awhile.
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 07:24 AM
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I'd go out on a limb to say that reno money would likely not be as much as we think, at least depending on the area you're in. Contractors are asking a ton of money and finding good work is tough as well right now.
Good point, I'd hold on to the money for at least a year or 2 so that hopefully things like lumber prices can stabilize. It's annoying because I could really use some new siding to replace the ugly original stuff on the house from decades ago. That said, no immediate rush. Other house work I do myself so the money stretches a lot further.
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 10:52 AM
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I don't know if you've noticed, but rates have started rising in the past week by quite a bit. I monitor rates every day. 10-Year Treasury rates have gone up from about 1.1-1.2% for months to 1.36% now. Myself and friends have been saying for some time that rates had to rise, given current policies and our debt. We didn't know why they hadn't. Now the 10-Year has jumped 20% in a week. 10-Year Treasury rates used to average 6%. They went down at the end of the Bush administration and were in the 3's. Then, in 2011 Obama got them lowered to 1%. They really have been there ever since. During Obama's second term there was talk about "quantitative easing" or gradually raising rates to something like where they should be so as not to over stimulate the economy. That was never done. We'll see where things go from here, but I'm liking your doomsday stuff more than before.
LOL........yep I'm buying metals/energy and other commodities because inflation is here to stay

Having some hard assets including the FD is a good idea if your debt to income/savings ratio is solid. I'm not all doom and gloom I just listened in my econ classes so this is really more of an opportunity than anything else but this stuff can't continue as is so I'd prepare as best as you can.

As Rich said the FD is truly priceless as there isn't another car I've enjoyed driving and being around more and that's what it's all about.







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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 11:35 AM
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I'm speechless at this point.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/12484216173...p2047675.l2557. That is a roller.... a roller with a rebuilt title, primer everywhere, no seats, etc. and it sold for over 16k..... I hate to say it guys... but I think I'm going to be listing mine soon at this rate. I mean seriously, mine is a running driving example with a ton of the must have mods and over $3k in new interior parts from Ray. This market is just crazy right now, but we are talking some nice house reno money at this point. #Conflicted.
I'm not really surprised by the roller on eBay. We are at a point where low mileage collector cars go for a premium $50-$60k. A decent car can also pull good money. But poor examples are increasing in value because you just can't find something for less unless you get super lucky. So $15k is not bad for a roller because a $10k one just isn't available. But you can't turn that car into a $30-40k car and be above water vs what you spend to get it there.

So until mid range cars prices go up further (e.g. there have been several cars on BaT for $26-$35k) then we have compression at the lower end between ok drivers and absolute crap that needs restoration. I think this is just supply and demand. You can't find a roller for cheap. But you can still find an "ok" car in the 20's and 30's.
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 01:14 PM
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I have participated in the stripping down of maybe five FD. I was always surprised that no matter how many parts I took off, there still remained considerable items of value still remaining. Did not the description of the car say the motor was recently rebuilt? Assuming that is true, then you are looking at about $10,000 to recover from the rest of the car.

Conversely if you try to replace all the missing pieces (at used part fair market) the costs add up extremely fast.

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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 01:54 PM
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Hopefully this means a lot of cars that have been butchered or poorly modified will start to be fixed up.
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 02:29 PM
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...and a low mileage, BB, Touring that's been living its life in America's Hat:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-143/
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 07:10 PM
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...and a low mileage, BB, Touring that's been living its life in America's Hat:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-143/
Let me be the first to say, no battery cover so I'm out
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 07:32 PM
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Extremely low mileage Spirit R just sold this week for $216k US in Hong Kong. Crazy times.
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 08:45 PM
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Extremely low mileage Spirit R just sold this week for $216k US in Hong Kong. Crazy times.
the Supra isn’t in the same league 🤪👊😎🤓
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 09:54 AM
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the Supra isn’t in the same league 🤪👊😎🤓

Haha.
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
YEP, heat is the enemy. Typically a nice garage is shaded by trees etc.. so they are rarely heat traps. The stock vacuum hoses will typically be hard as a rock on a car with lots of heat cycles or over 75k miles that's stored outside etc.... A lifetime in a nice garage makes A HUGE difference in the condition of any old car.
FWIW, my '94 has always been garaged and since 2010 when I bought it, I always leave the hood up to cool things down quickly. Surely the first owner didn't, but if I had a time machine I would tell him to. Just clicked over 27K.
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 12:22 PM
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FWIW, my '94 has always been garaged and since 2010 when I bought it, I always leave the hood up to cool things down quickly. Surely the first owner didn't, but if I had a time machine I would tell him to. Just clicked over 27K.
My original vacuum lines were replaced at 90K miles. Tech that did the work (Dave at KD Rotary) said the originals were still pliable. At that time I was still running stock exhaust, precat, etc. From new, I never cracked the hood to let the car cool. As I saw in a post from Dale awhile back, I just drove it like a normal car. Of course, it was always garaged and properly cared for, but as a street-driven car everything held up well w/o special treatment. Just another data point
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 12:44 PM
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We'll. The beautiful banzai 20b just went for 55k +fees. https://live.proxibid.com/BidderWeb/...-catalog-item|

The auto went for 26k +fees.

Both of these were great deals.
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
We'll. The beautiful banzai 20b just went for 55k +fees. https://live.proxibid.com/BidderWeb/...-catalog-item|

The auto went for 26k +fees.

Both of these were great deals.
Seems like an especially rad deal for the 20b. Try building and tuning that car for less. Sheesh.
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 01:09 PM
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That Banzai 20b was a steal, as far I as can tell. I'm sure the guy spent $50,000 on the build or more. You don't have the detail and back and forth that you have on BaT, but Banzai does such great work and the pieces that went into this are top notch. I remember this car from a few years back.
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 01:32 PM
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Yeah, it sure is a good one. Definitely could not replicate it for that much. Its not a collector car, but I still feel like it would have gone for more money if sold elsewhere. Not sure if BAT would have taken it, and eBay is a crap shoot, so who knows.
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 03:48 PM
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And looks like that roller on eBay didn't actually sell, its back up at 10k.
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 01:31 AM
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Also, I thought JimLab deleted all his posts… or was that on the other rotary website? I thought he was funny, but he pissed a lot of people off.
Yeah, what a jackass that guy was.
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 08:01 AM
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Yeah, what a jackass that guy was.
...like you read about... but damn, he could serve up an epic Ham Sandwich™ !!
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 11:11 AM
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"Likes 3" quite an accomplishment on 10,085 posts!

No judgement here, just amusing.
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 11:23 AM
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"Likes 3" quite an accomplishment on 10,085 posts!

No judgement here, just amusing.
Usually when you see post:like ratios like that it's because most of the posts were made before the like system was active.
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 11:25 AM
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Yup - the like system is very recent.
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Originally Posted by Narfle
If you say his name three times and turn the lights off, he'll show up
Speak of the devil
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 11:35 AM
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Yeah, what a jackass that guy was.
He wasn't all bad
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