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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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its colored and cleared. but i think a couple spots need more clear?? how long before its to late ?? i can see 1 or 2 spots were it needs more. do i mask off the area around it or what?

Just try and mist the clear where you think it needs more then feather it out from the middle spraying less as you go out. You are just trying to blend it in with the rest of the panel.

It really doesn't matter how long it has been as long as the surface its still clean. Hell my bus has the original paint and I just blended in some new paint on the side. Once I re buff the OG paint again and give it a good wash you'll never be able to tell the difference.

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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 01:45 AM
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Hey 88rxn/a. Do you want to paint my car in the future? I'm serious! Maybe we can work something out.

you do the body work, i am not the best at it.
i dont even know where you live?



Just try and mist the clear where you think it needs more then feather it out from the middle spraying less as you go out. You are just trying to blend it in with the rest of the panel.

It really doesn't matter how long it has been as long as the surface its still clean. Hell my bus has the original paint and I just blended in some new paint on the side. Once I re buff the OG paint again and give it a good wash you'll never be able to tell the difference.
thanks buddy, i may try it.....
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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Doesn't need much body work. Only a few dings here and there. I'll see if i can dig something up online so i can learn a little about it. I only have a small driveway (located in NYC fyi) and i don't have a good working environment.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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well today i put in the headliner ran the wires for my fuel pump and ran the battery cable better. i didnt take pics cause i ran out of time. tommorow ill take pics of the paint job, running of the wires and the progress that will happen tommorow.

im thinking since the lack of clearcoat isnt as bad as i thought i may just leave it alone.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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My dad has a HVLP gun but I use his old school one instead. I just can't get the HVLP gun to spray right. I'm used to using a $500 dollar guns that they had in school and not a Harbor freight special. The old school gun is working great for me. Use what ya got man. I painted my old car with a $30 Walmart gun. It turned out ok. Had a bit of orange peel but no big.
I'll agree with the harbor freight special. my uncle took my nice DeVilbiss HVLP.... so, I was suck with a harbor freight 60 dollar one... Works okay, but... only for single stage and THIN primers... it sucks ***** for any surfacing primer.. which I'm doing now...

Yesterday I broke down and bought two new DeVilbiss guns with an assortment of tips...
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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I stopped and looked at that Vert today. It's an '88 and they want $2,000 obo. The top is shot and there is a dent in the front of th Pass. side fender. It has a Pacesetter exhaust on it. Doesn't look to bad overall. Would make someone a nice ride.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Don't leave us hangin We need pics....
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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sorry for the delay in pics and progress....been pretty busy....
heres the pics of the paint job turn out. it is dusty since i live right next to a busy highway but nuthin to worry about.,...

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Are your windows busted? Or is that masking..... I can't tell..

But the paint looks good so far, I'm assuming thats before wet sanding....
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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hahaha, no mang. thats from wet sanding the primer. i just havent cleaned the windows...no i havent wet sanded the clear yet. im not sure how i go about doing it??
i know you use like 1000 and up grit but i never done it before. of course i never rebuilt a car like this before either!!
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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love the build so far. what wheels do you have lined up for the beast?
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 88rxn/a
hahaha, no mang. thats from wet sanding the primer. i just havent cleaned the windows...no i havent wet sanded the clear yet. im not sure how i go about doing it??
i know you use like 1000 and up grit but i never done it before. of course i never rebuilt a car like this before either!!
I've never done a dual stage paint job before.. just single stage.. So, you'd have to ask classicauto or somebody who knows.... I would imagine you'd start out at like 1200, then clear again, then 1500, then clear again, then something crazy like 1800.. then buff/polish...

But, I know there's also an issue with letting it cure all the way before doing it.... Dunno. I'll be crossing that bridge when I get to it.

Looks like you beat me to color! good job! You win............ absolutely nothing.

EDIT: maybe I should start my own build thread instead of constantly invading yours.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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love the build so far. what wheels do you have lined up for the beast?
thanks. im using a set off cheap Ebay knock offs (heavy as sin!!) for rims. i was thining about selling them for a light set. i have pics ill upload sometime...


Looks like you beat me to color! good job! You win............ absolutely nothing.
second place always is tough isnt it!!

EDIT: maybe I should start my own build thread instead of constantly invading yours.
i been waiting for one. the critics are waiting!!

heres another shot of the paint.....

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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hahahah, i took shots of the good side of it...
1 last pic for the nite....
this is the begining of the haltech e6K wiring i know the wire is WAY over kill for the fuel pump but i got a great price on 75 feet of it!!
here is the wire (red) coming from the haltech relay going to the fuel pump. the black is the ground which i cut and RE-gounded to the chassis and the remaining wires are for the sending unit. i didnt feel the need for a SUPER clean install on this but i may just find a way to route that pump wire of a "just in case" scenario....





tonite i put the "bracket" for the storage bins in place and began thinking on how i may install my battery.i have a marine box but its to big (to tall) so i may leave it exposed (inside the bin) and use the "J" bolts and somehow keep it firmly attached to the chassis and still be able to close it....im going to search and look for other ideas on this...
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Yeah.. no ****... thats damn nice! I only pray that mine comes out that good.... But I just bought two brand new DeVilbiss guns and a bunch of tips... Got so sick of harbor freight cheapo guns.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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im going to take pics of the spots i dont like so you can see its not all that....its an OK paint job and i thank you for the compliments...im happy with my 2ND paint job but its not near as perfect as it tunred out in that pic!
i got 1 run on the passenger rear QP above the gas tank door...turned out the cheap *** gun i used decided to leak from the tip as i was spraying the clear on the rear hatch seal area. and the spots that dont have enough clear...im sure you all know what it looks like on a black car...the passnger door is just HORRIBLE IMHO......my body work skills showed there....and theres another spot back by the left badge that i could have done a better job on...luckily the badges and wing will take your eyes from it but the passenger door is gonna stick out like a sore thumb!
my plan is that next summer ill find a passenger door thats in GOOD shape and send it off to a shop since i feel they will have better luck matching the paint i hope....the hood has spots of paint that clumped and are driving me CRAZY but i didnt spot them untill AFTER i cleared it....im being real picky about it but i was expecting a better turn out.....its def. not a proffesional job but i think it will do.

this is what i get for deciding to paint one of the hardest colors!!LOL
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Wow. Great job.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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wow man i havent seen ur thread in a while and the car looks great you have made alot of progress since the last time i seen it keep up the good work and gl with the rest of the build and again it looks great!!
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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thanks guys for the compliments!

heres a couple pics of the passenger door and fender. its really hard to get a shot of a black car!!



thats the door, if you look right below the door handle you can see it somewhat....i took MANY pics and these were the best i can get....




here is the other QP....although you cant see the run its there,
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Yea she's a little peeley......

Bust out the wet paper and you'll smooth it up considerably. You may have mentioned, but how many coats of clear (medium wet coats...don't count a tack coat) did you apply? That will play a role in determining how much wet sanding you'll be able to do. If you've got 3 at the minimum, give it a thorough sanding with 1500 and buff. You'll be able to see the peel as you sand (the low spots will be shiny, the matte, sanded areas will not ) and with 3 coats I wouldn't try to take it ALL out, may cut through and end up re-shooting a panel or two...not that its the end of the world either though

You can see a little body work, but hey, the thing is a thousand times better then before. Great for a first timer. Congratulations, its coming great!
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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thanks classic. is there a certain time period when i can wet sand and re clear if i had to?? i thought about waiting untill next summer but i wasnt sure if i could??

and heres a pic of the downpipe i got from himiniracing...it took them 2 weeks from the time i sent them money, to the time it reached my door...they wouldnt hardly answer my emails. i got there phone # from paypal and called them a few times with no answer and no reply (after leaving a message and phone #) i tried to call another time and the phone was disconnected!!! i was getting worried that i got ripped off....but anyways, i decided to order the 4 inch since it was only a few dollars more than a 3. its a 3 inch V band for the turbo..then it goes back to 3 inch again at the mid pipe end....its pretty damn good quality!!




i took the pic next to my slipper (size 10.5) so you can see the size of this thing!! its made for the HKS "log" type manifold.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 04:13 AM
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I found that the hardest part of bodywork is feathering out old paint so you don't see it when you shoot new over it. I have decided that I'd rather strip the whole panel then feather it out. At least with the doors and stuff. I didn't strip my hatch on my bus the whole way and resprayed it and you can see the paint edge.
I'm not going for a show winner so I'm not worried about it but the rest of my doors are getting stripped to bare metal before they get painted.

Glad to see it coming along. I'll have to stop down and check it out.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gmag69
I found that the hardest part of bodywork is feathering out old paint so you don't see it when you shoot new over it. I have decided that I'd rather strip the whole panel then feather it out. At least with the doors and stuff. I didn't strip my hatch on my bus the whole way and resprayed it and you can see the paint edge.
I'm not going for a show winner so I'm not worried about it but the rest of my doors are getting stripped to bare metal before they get painted.

Glad to see it coming along. I'll have to stop down and check it out.
Thats why I did this:
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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thanks classic. is there a certain time period when i can wet sand and re clear if i had to?? i thought about waiting untill next summer but i wasnt sure if i could??
Somewhat depends on the paint....but generally speaking, in 3-6weeks the solvent has fully evaporated from the paint (again, dependant on material, weather, etc.) and you won't experience any shrinking/sinking after re-coating. Some top-of-the-line stuff such as our DC92 clear can be re-shot the next day however...so for a more accurate answer on your specific product I'd contact the jobber you purchased it from.
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