lonetlan

How did you take this off(I don't know what to call it either)? I'm running out of ideas. I broke off a bolt in it.

I will call it the "eccentric front bearing thats brass and hard to get off"; for now.

So, on the other side is the intermediate plate and the rear journal.

What can I use to make it stop rotating, or a useful method to remove this bolt?

-I have tried putting the eccentric shaft nut back on, but when I try to break the front bolt, it just loosens the nut.
-I tried using a bolt to hold a hand chisel to pin it against one of the water pump bolts, but the bolt I used to pin it broke.
-spinning it really fast didn't work either.
-Staring at it hasn't made it budge.
-I can't find the correct phrase to search to get my answer.

Any help is appreciated, I attached a pic so you can give me the best advice.

thejallenator

iTrader: (14)

well from the sounds of it you messed up. this is posed to come off before the flywheel; but since you jumped the gun this is the easiest i found to do it. just use a pipe wrench and a 19mm socket and you should be able to bust it lose, well if you cna use a pipe wrench

john ward

iTrader: (7)

If your talking about the eccentric shaft bolt to get the hub off either use an impact gun or make/buy a flywheel stopper and use a breaker bar.

lonewolfrx

id say breaker bar.. sometimes these bolts are a bitch to come off especially if its never taken off before.

I know the trick on regular pistons motors, if the motor was still in the car id just put a breaker bar, make it contact with the body, n crank it real quick. usually does the trick in losenin the nut

lonetlan

Its not off yet, but I'm gonna have to figure this out tomorrow; hot weather.

So, I'm gonna mainly try this:
-Put the rear rotor housing on, than the rear plate(without the rotor) and the tension bolts, tighten the eccentric shaft nut as tight as I can, and then a little tighter. By using a blow torch, I will heat the eccentric shaft bolt, tap it with a hammer, and while hot, loosen it.

What do you guys think? Of this plan, and by all means share your comments. I don't wanna mess up the front rotor housing(if it isn't already).

nillahcaz

iTrader: (2)

like John_ward said, impact.

lonetlan

That's going to be the first procedure to try once I get my engine to the shop. Than I'm going to go with the plan B. I'm gonna have a conclusion so if someone else did what I did(got too excited) they will have an option of what to do!

thejallenator

iTrader: (14)

dude just use the damn pipe wrench, you dont need to put anything back on, might need a couple cheater bars. but tht will take care of it

SpeedOfLife

iTrader: (16)

Pneumatic impact.

lonetlan

Woo hold on! On the other side of the pic(you know what I mean), my rear plate, rear housing, and rear rotor are removed and out of the way. So all that's protruding is the rear of the eccentric shaft and intermediate iron. What I have done is put the flywheel nut on real tight, used the Mazdatrix wrench to hold the nut in place, and try to break the bolt. The conclusion to that story is I would loosen the nut and the bolt will still be on. My other attempt was; I put a socket on a smaller breaker bar into the rotor journal hole(real dumb idea, I was desperate) and used a pipe to extend it to hit the ground and lock in place. I than tried to break the bolt free, but ended up bending the breaker bar. I was standing on the breaker to remove bolt, and kinda jumping to get it off. I gave it a second attempt to bend my breaker bar straight and still failed.

So tomorrow I'm going to take it to a shop which has a pneumatic impact gun to get it off for me.

NoPistons!

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That works. Although you could attach a chain/bolt to that to keep it from moving and use a big *** cheater bar. Good luck.

HAILERS

You NEED to stop the flywheel from moving. IF it is off right now, put it back on. You don't need to torque it to it's specs, just tight.

Since you don't have a impact wrench, you need to make a device to hold the flywheel in place. A flywheel stopper if you will. THEN you can remove the front hub bolt. I've no idea why you get multiple replys saying all you need is a cheater bar and make no mention of holding the flywheel in place to do so. They make no sense.

A flywheel stopper can be made using a chain or you can get a thick, long piece of angle iron and drill holes in it to match the holes in the flywheel and bolt that angle iron to the flywheel to act as a flywheel stopper.

Derekcat

iTrader: (8)

1: Put the little metal thing back in the Eshaft where the flywheel goes
2: Put flywheel on shaft/metal thing
3: Heat up the front bolt
4: Tell a friend to hold the flywheel inplace
5: Electric or Pneumatic impact gun it and after a few seconds it'll be done

I had exactly the same thing happen to me a week or so ago ^_^" But this did it easy.

Also, if you have neither air tools nor an electric impact gun.. Go buy one or the other. I distain power tools for being unnecessary most of the time.. But my DeWalt Electric [CORDED!] impact gun has saved me a HUGE amount of work ^_^ and it was only $60 on craigslist.

HAILERS

Yes. Go throw money at it and buy a air impact wrench and compressor to operate it with.

Or go rent a impact wrench and air compressor. Money spent on a one time job. Money gone forever and nothing to show for it.

And then.....you have to put the nut and bolt back on and torque it to spec. You going to do that with an impact wrench. No.

lonetlan

So, I said F the shop, I'll give it another go. I tightened the flywheel nut on the E-shaft with the flywheel there for leverage. I put the Mazdatrix tool onto the nut and let it hit the ground. Than I put my breaker bar onto the E-bolt. I searched around for something to "cheater bar style" with, and I came up with the long leg off of my engine stand. First go, I busted the nut again, so I put it on mega tight and went for round 3. Than I broke the bolt. It was tuff all the way out on every thread. But I got it. Now I have a new problem, but I can handle it on my own. My E-Shaft nut is still on my Eccentric shaft, mega tight!


I already got an impact wrench and an air compressor on the way, for re-installation of the components.

I'm including how I got it off, and the funny E-shaft/flywheel lamp post!