A-spec 500R
06-12-06, 07:28 AM
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all we have so far is one dyno sheet.
Actually whats up with that dyno sheet? how come power drops off pretty hard in the upper rpm range. Was the engine ported?
Actually whats up with that dyno sheet? how come power drops off pretty hard in the upper rpm range. Was the engine ported?
06-12-06, 09:07 AM
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so a little less than 4k for the kit and then fuel mods and a pfc/standalone and im at 450-500hp? im just starting out on my car(stock except downpipe and cat back. i want to retain air, ps, etc and have everday drivability as my car runs GREAT. i was thinking of going BNR stage 3s and a street port. right now i have a new engine and its unported. excuse the noobness but im trying to get my plan for what i want to do for this car down and there are soooo many options. streetability and reliability are a big thing for me. im trying for the triple threat... drag road couse and everyday type setup. i have another vehicle so i can drive other cars but if i WANTED to. I dont want a track car or a trailer queen. wuld this be a good one for me?
06-12-06, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by burnoutking999
so a little less than 4k for the kit and then fuel mods and a pfc/standalone and im at 450-500hp? im just starting out on my car(stock except downpipe and cat back. i want to retain air, ps, etc and have everday drivability as my car runs GREAT. i was thinking of going BNR stage 3s and a street port. right now i have a new engine and its unported. excuse the noobness but im trying to get my plan for what i want to do for this car down and there are soooo many options. streetability and reliability are a big thing for me. im trying for the triple threat... drag road couse and everyday type setup. i have another vehicle so i can drive other cars but if i WANTED to. I dont want a track car or a trailer queen. wuld this be a good one for me?
06-12-06, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Zero R
After thinking about it for awhile for numerous reasons (confusion being the main one) I have chosen to close out the old thread and start this fresh and new. So here is all the relavent information needed. Even if you read the old thread reread this as there have been changes made of significance.
It will be available in T4 only. Rear housing options are .82, 1.00, 1.06, 1.12 Divided. Our 500R will offer almost identical response to the 35R with a much more efficient top end. So if you were looking at a 40R this will offer roughly the same power with quicker response. If your looking for something that has more topend than a 35R but quicker response than the larger turbo's this will do it. It is more efficient across the board and especially at higher pressure ratios. Example 15lbs on a 35R 74% eff. 500R 77%.. @18lbs 35R 72% 500R 75%.. @20lbs 35R 67% 500R 75%.. @25lbs 35R is out of breath, 500R is 73%.. It will support up to 75lbs/min. at a pressure ratio of 2.75 I can even broaden this for you further if you opt for the anti surge compressor. The best part is you wont have to sacrifice response for this setup. It will be very similar to the standard 35R in response. I spent a while finding this combination and I think it will be the absolute best offering out there for those who want response and power.
It will be available in T4 only. Rear housing options are .82, 1.00, 1.06, 1.12 Divided. Our 500R will offer almost identical response to the 35R with a much more efficient top end. So if you were looking at a 40R this will offer roughly the same power with quicker response. If your looking for something that has more topend than a 35R but quicker response than the larger turbo's this will do it. It is more efficient across the board and especially at higher pressure ratios. Example 15lbs on a 35R 74% eff. 500R 77%.. @18lbs 35R 72% 500R 75%.. @20lbs 35R 67% 500R 75%.. @25lbs 35R is out of breath, 500R is 73%.. It will support up to 75lbs/min. at a pressure ratio of 2.75 I can even broaden this for you further if you opt for the anti surge compressor. The best part is you wont have to sacrifice response for this setup. It will be very similar to the standard 35R in response. I spent a while finding this combination and I think it will be the absolute best offering out there for those who want response and power.
Ordered my GT 500R kit friday thanks for all the help guys!!
My supporting mods are:
m2 Med Intercooler
Walbro Fuel Pump
XS Power Pack
850 primaries
1600 secondaries
RX7 Store Extreme Fuel Rail Kit
FPR
HKS BOV
Power FC - with intergrated Boost controller
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What kind of numbers can I be looking at with this setup? Thanks again guys
Last edited by RX7JCHIII; 06-12-06 at 10:28 AM. Reason: forgot to add xs power pack
06-12-06, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RX7JCHIII
Ordered my GT 500R kit friday thanks for all the help guys!!
My supporting mods are:
m2 Med Intercooler
Walbro Fuel Pump
XS Power Pack
850 primaries
1600 secondaries
RX7 Store Extreme Fuel Rail Kit
FPR
HKS BOV
Power FC - with intergrated Boost controller
(Mazda Reman)
What kind of numbers can I be looking at with this setup? Thanks again guys
My supporting mods are:
m2 Med Intercooler
Walbro Fuel Pump
XS Power Pack
850 primaries
1600 secondaries
RX7 Store Extreme Fuel Rail Kit
FPR
HKS BOV
Power FC - with intergrated Boost controller
(Mazda Reman)
What kind of numbers can I be looking at with this setup? Thanks again guys
i am thinking about this kit vs a t-78 but was definately thinking of selling the m2 med ic for a greddy three row no matter which turbo kit i get.
06-12-06, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RX7JCHIII
What kind of numbers can I be looking at with this setup?
Originally Posted by Zero R
I do not like to give out numbers as I can never tell what "YOUR" car will do.
06-12-06, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Zero R
Basic things needed are ECU, fuel, IC, Rad, After that all the other stuff that will come up as needed. But you have to have those things addressed.
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06-12-06, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
are u keeping your m2 med?
i am thinking about this kit vs a t-78 but was definately thinking of selling the m2 med ic for a greddy three row no matter which turbo kit i get.
i am thinking about this kit vs a t-78 but was definately thinking of selling the m2 med ic for a greddy three row no matter which turbo kit i get.
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06-13-06, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Not sure if you will really need the greddy 3 row Matt, a 'normal' 2 row will suffice, or an ASP Race SMIC. The 3 row will just add to your boost lag. You don't plan on running 30 psi *all* the time, do ya ?
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06-13-06, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Not sure if you will really need the greddy 3 row Matt, a 'normal' 2 row will suffice, or an ASP Race SMIC. The 3 row will just add to your boost lag. You don't plan on running 30 psi *all* the time, do ya ?
?I would somewhat agree, whenever you go to a longer core you will lose good amounts of CFM which in turn will add to a laggy feeling system. The plus side is you get cooler charge air at that expense. But if your running lower boost levels it is not needed.
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06-13-06, 11:04 AM
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so I guess it was never answered. If I drop a 13bt into my '86 GXL and then get this kit and do all the other"bolt-on" supporting mods and put a FMIC will I be able to reach 400-450 rwhp? If I was to rebuild the engine and port it could I hit 550-600 rwhp on pump gas?
06-13-06, 11:35 AM
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It was answered previously. A-spec has yet to install and dyno this on an FC yet. They are workin on mine. We'll find out how it works out when its done. Results will be posted eventually, give it time.
06-13-06, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by IndyFC
so I guess it was never answered. If I drop a 13bt into my '86 GXL and then get this kit and do all the other"bolt-on" supporting mods and put a FMIC will I be able to reach 400-450 rwhp? If I was to rebuild the engine and port it could I hit 550-600 rwhp on pump gas?
No you will not hit 550-600rwhp on a 13bt on pump gas. 450whp is do-able.
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06-13-06, 08:41 PM
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People have been modding these cars for many, many years. A turbo rotary that makes 450 rwhp safely and reliably on pump gas (93 octane) over a long period of time (say 20k miles) is in the vast minority. And that's 450......you will not get 475 on 93 octane, so don't waste money trying.
06-13-06, 08:49 PM
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Wasn't the 20psi 503rwhp pull with Broken09's car on 93 pump gas with water injection?
LoL What don't you use the car for? Towing and plowing snow?
Originally Posted by IndyFC
I would like to get 500rwhp, more if I can do it on pump. Time Attack/Drift/Auto-X/Street/Drag. Thats my main uses for the car
06-13-06, 09:06 PM
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I thought the only secret sauce besides 93oct (over 91oct/pump) @ 14lbs was Broken9's MSD ignition? I don't remember reading that he had water injection. I was assuming 1 bar on 91oct would yield the same 450hp. Whether the ignition amp' is needed <15lbs, I don't know.
06-14-06, 12:35 AM
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Well, I have 5 gal of 100oct premium (w/ethonal) for the dyno. I can get it free but it costs money to pick it up "lol". I forgot what my max is, but I don't think my injectors (850/1300's) will handle 25lbs even if my pump (285 l/h) can.
It's easy to want more dyno queen numbers when we see how much a Supra or a Skyline has but if there was some sort of popup calculator to factor in power to weight, then we would realize we will be wetting the drivers seat allready (haha).
It's easy to want more dyno queen numbers when we see how much a Supra or a Skyline has but if there was some sort of popup calculator to factor in power to weight, then we would realize we will be wetting the drivers seat allready (haha).