Your dyno result work out well with my program....... See for your self.

This means the program is fairly reliable so gives me reason be relieve it with a pinch of salt.

Scott

 

I have the exact scans that you can compare to your program:

HP&TQ vs RPM



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HP&Boost vs RPM



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can coolingmist pumps run methylhydrate or are they just water?

 

You can run water, methanol, denatured alcohol.

David

 

i run a 50/50 mix on my coolingmist

 

thanks exactly what i needed to know

 

After talking to Howard on the phone and reading about 50 pages of posts on two forums I am calling J.D. and going with the AlkyControl system. I need something bulletproof with the right engineering data points behind it. I do tune, and need the ultra-relability. I have run 23 psi on the street on pump gas but frequently run out of fuel or high air temps above 7000rpm.

I am sure the CoolingMist system will work for the vast majority of street driven cars out there.

I need more value and believe for me it is in the AlkyControl system.

 

where does aquamist stand in all this as ive not heard much about these systems.

 

^pumps fail

and if you have a rotary and that happens, I'd rather not discuss.

 

I'll be starting my preliminary tuning on my Alkycontrol setup very soon.

 

Ill be getting my car back in a week or so. Getting a roll bar and a few other things . Goin to try an alky system

 

For those that are following our systems. We have 2 new ways to activate our system. Using the Vari-Cool Controller the system can run in 2d mode with either Air Intake Temps or EGT.

If you wish to use it based on IAT, it requires our air intake sender. From there you can make it run off of intake temps and boost.

The other option is EGT. That will require a standard EGT K type Thermocoupler and our EGT Converter.

The AIT gives you the range of 0 to 600F to inject. For example, you can set it to start injecting at 100F and full by 200, but only when above X amount of boost. Conversely, you can make it run off of boost, but only when above a certain AIT.

For EGT you get the range of 0 to 2000 F for the MIN and the same for the MAX.

Thanks.

 

I've been looking at your system on ebay and am very tempted to get it. Whats this of pumps going bad? Is that true or is that people just talking out of thier ***? The one on ebay that you guys have for sale does that come with everything or is it missing stuff? I've got an egt k type thermocoupler I bought that will be welded into my downpipe however whats is a better way to activate the system by IAT or by EGT or by BOOST?

edit: oh yeah I would be running a 50/50 mix of water and alky.

 

Pumps going bad? I dont know what to say. In 4,000 + pumps sold we have received less than 15 returned and about 1/2 those were because they tighten the fittings to hard and cracked the housing. We back our products, obviously we would not be where we are if we sold junk. Our black pumps are even stronger than our old silver ones.

The controller kit on ebay has only a few differences from the one on our site. The one on our site comes with 2 nozzles and a tank. The one on ebay has no tank and only 1 nozzle choice.

If you go with the EGT option its $99 more to get the EGT converter with the kit. As long as you have an EGT sender, it will work with our converter. If you go with the IAT option, its $30 to get the intake probe.

using it based on IAT and boost or using it based on EGT and Boost will conserve water/methanol and insure that you only use it when you need it. You should not run it ONLY on IAT or ONLY on EGT, but in a combination of boost and either IAT or EGT. That way it doesn't inject at idle.


I hope that makes sense. Let me know if if you need clarification.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cooli...spagenameZWDVW

thats the one I'm talking about. The other alky kits are in the 500 price range so this one is a bit cheaper, not that 100 bux is going to kill me but I just saw it on ebay and said maybe I should try it. Does this have the controller you can hook to your laptop as well as the software?

edit: my goal is 20-22psi on a t61 with large fmic, microtech, 1600cc secondaries and 890cc primaries, ss braided fuel lines, rx7.com fuel pump, aeromotive a1000 fuel pump etc.... Oh yes and I want to do this on premium.

 

Thats from one of our dealers. Thats a very good deal. yes it has the same controller. The fittings and flash version on the controller are different. Our new fittings are all quick disconnect. The latest flash is V 1.03. It has some enhancements including the ability to lock your settings with the software so by changing the *****, nothing happens.

Thats a very good deal, for sure.

David

 

Safety sustem that works , I use it ...................

DDS3 is the latest gauge version of DDS2 with a few new enhancements. The most radical change to the system is the incorporation of a “Boost” button. Upon pressing the button, a wastegate valve is activated and allows the boost pressure of a turbocharged engine to spool up to a preset higher value and allow instant power increase, This of course is subject to detection of correct amount of water flow and enough water in the tank. A water level sensors is supplied with the kit. Two more leds shows the “high boost” mode is activated and the other warns the water level in the tank is low.

 

And yet , another ............

FJO Racing Products releases it’s standalone Water Injection System. This product is styled after the very popular water injection accessory of FJO 341B System.

The use of water and methanol to control detonation in high compression or boosted engines is a time proven technology. This advanced product is engineered to deliver a fine mist that can be precisely metered based on MAP PSI, TPS, RPM, and Fuel injector duty-cycle. With the use of 1 and 2 dimensional maps, it is possible to program the controller to deliver exactly the correct amount of spray without the risk of flooding the combustion chamber. Our unique nozzle-solenoid design allows for instant control and delivers a mist so fine that complete evaporation is almost instantaneous. This results in a more effective use of the spray without risk of condensation in the intake. The FJO Water Injection system is constructed using materials which are engineered for and unaffected by water and methanol. To avoid compromising the performance of the system, materials such as brass, raw or anodized aluminum, raw or plated steel, natural rubber, and silicone should not be used as they are not suitable for use with water and/or methanol.

Built to the same rugged specifications as all of FJO's products, this system sets a new standard in water injection.

Features

Spray volume based on MAP PSI, TPS, RPM, and Fuel injector duty-cycle
Integrated 48 PSI MAP sensor
System is fully methanol rated
Nozzle-solenoid delivers ultra-fine mist achieving instantaneous evaporation with precise metering (see video)
High pressure 100% duty-cycle pump
Easy to use graphic set-up menus using PC
Closed loop operation with optional pressure transducer
System is expandable
Benefits

Free updates/upgrades to software and controller firmware for the life of the product
User installable firmware update using PC
Built for the racing environment to withstand heat, vibration, dirt and water
Free direct technical support

 

Alcohol is not corrosive to brass. Brass is what should be used on hose ends and fittings.

B

 

The dds3 is the best WI addition on the market at this time.. im gettin gone as soon as. The aquamist jets are awesome as well. the spray pattern is very good. Since i have added the new jets i get no drop off when the WI comes in.. i have also switched to 50:50

so far @ 8 psi 215hp
@ 10psi 250 hp

i plan to run 17 psi so lets see whats happens. i maxed out at 350hp with meth.

The figures above have not had the timing optimsed so there is more to come.

Scott

 

ok I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I sent them the money but haven't heard anything yet. hopefully they are cool and i get the product cause i really want to back you guys cause I like the fact that you are on the rx7 forum.

 

Thats great to hear. Let us know how you like the product!

David

 

What advantages do these systems have over a shot of nitrous?

Is it true that they are very corrosive to your engine?

 

I dont think I have been this disapointed after reading a thread in a long time

I run my own water injection system, have done for years and supplieded it to others ....... not 1500+ so sorry for not being on some of you *don mega* suppliers levels of skilz

 

What was that about? I think there is alot of good info here. I even gave you credit for turning me on to this.

Hmmmmm............................................ ...Strange................?