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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Hey guys I just got home and wanted to say thanks for coming out even though the weather sucked. I didn't think about it but I had my comp tester in the hatch that night if someone wanted to we could have used it.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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And I wonder, still I wonder, who'll stop the rain
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Oh mannn. I just had physical last week and did not need to see this picture. All the guys over 40 will understand.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Oh mannn. I just had physical last week and did not need to see this picture. All the guys over 40 will understand.
Even us 19 year olds understand. Lol.

On another note, Mazcare just called, and said it might be the AFM. Charlie said he can get it running if he pulls the plug on it, so it's probably shot. Does anyone have one I can borrow for a few days, so I can get it home? I don't need to keep it, unless you're selling for a low price, but I'm probably just gonna end up parting it out anyways. I know I've had some interest in the parts off of it, along with myself wanting some parts to stick onto the 12A. I just need an AFM to limp it home so I can get it away from Mazcare. I'll give it back when I'm done.

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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ray green
Hey dudes, check out this rx-7 compression tester:







They go for about $250 from these guys:

www.twistedrotors.com

Although we might be able to get an OGTA discount.

How 'bout a group buy? If 10 of us chip in $25 each will get it, we can house it with Crit or Billy.

I'm game, I'd love to check on how my 12A is chugging once in awhile.
I would chip in for a compression guage.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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AFM??? That's an Atomic Force Microscope in my field. What does it do in an SE? Air Fuel Mixture? Does it help out the ECU and TPS?

I wonder if that compression tester has a setting for doing prostate exams?
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 2GSLSE
Hey guys I just got home and wanted to say thanks for coming out even though the weather sucked. I didn't think about it but I had my comp tester in the hatch that night if someone wanted to we could have used it.
Thanks for stopping by M.C.! I'm glad you had a safe trip home. I think you just got out in time, the rain has hit us even worse. Some parts of the interstate were closed this morning and even some of the main arteries were closed, due to flooding and even mudslides. Fun Fun.
Tell Jason he has to come up from the south side and visit our OGTA meetings.

See you at Deals Gap, if not somewhere before then. Take care.

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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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I'm down for chipping in for the comp tester too.

And Ray, it's an Air Flow Meter. Works kind of like a choke on your carb. It opens and closes allowing more or less air in the system depending on the amount of throttle being applied.

Quad
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinGallo
I'm down for chipping in for the comp tester too.

And Ray, it's an Air Flow Meter. Works kind of like a choke on your carb. It opens and closes allowing more or less air in the system depending on the amount of throttle being applied.

Quad
Nope..........It opens and closes based on the amount of air that is being sucked in by the engine. It tells the computer how much air is being used.

Did Charlie let you see the race car?

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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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I wonder if that compression tester has a setting for doing prostate exams?
Now there is an idea that could make us some money. Rotary compresson tester / prostate exam tool.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinGallo
Even us 19 year olds understand. Lol.

On another note, Mazcare just called, and said it might be the AFM. Charlie said he can get it running if he pulls the plug on it, so it's probably shot. Does anyone have one I can borrow for a few days, so I can get it home? I don't need to keep it, unless you're selling for a low price, but I'm probably just gonna end up parting it out anyways. I know I've had some interest in the parts off of it, along with myself wanting some parts to stick onto the 12A. I just need an AFM to limp it home so I can get it away from Mazcare. I'll give it back when I'm done.

Quad
- raises hand again -

Kevin, I've got it all. I'm gonna have to make a list, though, before I forget what I've got out to you. Let me know when you want to pick it up. BTW, Roland told me that he suggested it might be the intake air temp sensor on the plenum, just below the BAC valve. You might want to trace that through the wiring harness to the ECU, and see if you've got a resistance on that circuit.</p>
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Crit
- raises hand again -

Kevin, I've got it all. I'm gonna have to make a list, though, before I forget what I've got out to you. Let me know when you want to pick it up. BTW, Roland told me that he suggested it might be the intake air temp sensor on the plenum, just below the BAC valve. You might want to trace that through the wiring harness to the ECU, and see if you've got a resistance on that circuit.</p>
I also told Quad it could be the AFM and Dad suggested the intake air temp sensor or it could be a combination of both!

If Quad decides to part it out I am interested in some pieces!
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Ok, general car question.

Off of our normal stuff, since it's a FWD boinger, but still gonna ask.

Friend has an Audi A3, 6 speed, that suddenly will no longer go into gear at all, even with the car off. (Shifter won't go in is what I mean by that). Still under warranty, so she had it towed to the dealership, where they tell her the clutch is bad, and it isn't covered under warranty, and it will be $2300. Called the other Jim Ellis audi dealer (same company mind you), said it would be $1400.

To me it seems like it would be something other than a bad clutch. With the car off, it should go into some gear. You might have to roll it a bit (did that btw to see if it would go in), but it should go in.

Any thoughts?

Glad I sold my Audi when I did .
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Not a bad clutch, unless it's a DSG unit which is totally wacko. The input shaft doesn't telescope or anything, so it'll be piloted into the back of the engine like normal. Everything from the input shaft back is totally independent of the clutch. If the throwout is bad, then it won't go into EVERY gear without rocking, but it should go into one or two, especially if you're rocking the car. If they insist it's a bad clutch, she might want to stick around while they do the work (if they claim it won't be under warranty, then she has every right to) and she should get a demolished clutch back in the end. If the clutch isn't destroyed, then Audi owes her warranty work.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cletus
Ok, general car question.

Off of our normal stuff, since it's a FWD boinger, but still gonna ask.

Friend has an Audi A3, 6 speed, that suddenly will no longer go into gear at all, even with the car off. (Shifter won't go in is what I mean by that). Still under warranty, so she had it towed to the dealership, where they tell her the clutch is bad, and it isn't covered under warranty, and it will be $2300. Called the other Jim Ellis audi dealer (same company mind you), said it would be $1400.

To me it seems like it would be something other than a bad clutch. With the car off, it should go into some gear. You might have to roll it a bit (did that btw to see if it would go in), but it should go in.

Any thoughts?

Glad I sold my Audi when I did .
It could be the clutch especially is the clutch disc , pressure plate, or throw out bearing came apart. You are right you should be able to roll the car and put the shifter into gear. To me it sounds like something is jammed in the trans or shifter rod hopefully this is not the case!
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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yes it should go into any gear with the engine not running. the fact that it wont says it has nothing to do with the clutch assy. i'm going with problem in the tranny. a tranny can be shifted thru the gears with it sitting on the garage floor.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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And I wonder, still I wonder, who'll stop the rain

-Creedance Clearwater Revival (1970)

Maybe Audi has some kind of manual/auto "clutch" arrangement that has electronic feedback regulation on it. There must be some reason why it costs $1,400-$2,300 (clutch kit for my FB is about $140, ten times less - yet another reason to drive an FB). Did you check the fuse box?
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ray green
And I wonder, still I wonder, who'll stop the rain

-Creedance Clearwater Revival (1970)

Maybe Audi has some kind of manual/auto "clutch" arrangement that has electronic feedback regulation on it. There must be some reason why it costs $1,400-$2,300 (clutch kit for my FB is about $140, ten times less - yet another reason to drive an FB). Did you check the fuse box?
The reason in my opinion that is costs $1400-$2300 is because this is a late model A3 6 speed and it is at the dealership. Dealerships do rip you off! It is not an old crusty Mazda triangle winkle rubber band powered car. J/K You either love these old Mazda's or hate them! I have so many so no comment...
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Yeah, FWD turbo Audi has to be a decent bit of labor at over $100/hr.

Yeah, not a DSG Crit. Too much cash for those. And if they go bad, just write them a 5 figure check......

My vote is something internal to the tranny. 40k out of a clutch is just not right anyway. She doesn't drive it poorly.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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My mistake Billy. And no, I haven't been back up to Mazcare, so I haven't seen the race car yet.

Crit. I'll call you about a pick up time. Mazcare said that they got it running with the AFM off, but you obviously can't drive it down the highway like that. So they said that it just needs to be replaced. All I plan on doing is limping it home, and parting that sonuvabitch out. I'll take first dibs on what I want, (mostly the suspension), and then I'll start selling what's left. I'll be giving Crit back everything I owe him, but after that it's fair game.

Roland/Crit- I'll bring them the AFM, and if that doesn't fix it, I'll have them check out the Air Temp Sensor.

Thanks for all the help guys. I'm much obliged to all of you

Quad
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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So this rain didn't bother me too much until today when I had to help an Alumni Brother move his furniture into his new house...
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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Quad: Why part it out? Why not sell it whole? If I was closer, I would fix it for you. It is probably something simple.

1. it is not the air intake sensor (dynamic chamber). Mine is not connected and has been that way for thousands of miles. It is really only to help with hot starts anyway.

2. for the AFM, they are super easy to test. Just pull the AFM and measure resistance between certain terminals with the door open and the door closed. Specs are in the FSM. Also, the door may be hanging up on something if that hasn't been checked. It only takes like 5 minutes to test one.

3. I assume you had them test fuel pressure while it starts. Did the pressure stay up when it died? What was the pressure? Did they jump the fuel pump to keep it running whenever the key is 'ON'?

4. really the most critical sensor for the GSL-SE is the coolant temp sensor in the waterpump. If that sensor is bad or if the connector come unplugged, the car will flood like mad and will be really hard to start. That connector and wiring is usually brittle and you may have cracked the connector or wiring when doing your injector work.

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