FD s FC **Video** Both cars Modded Heavily
Originally Posted by kukri
results from last autocross:
http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/...sEVENT_ID=3841
u have to be signed up, but in case you're not
zo6: 44.992
WRS STI: 43.522
me (355ci FC): 43.330
I was on 235 F, 245 R with no traction drifting around the track.
Oh and on 1/4 m I ran 12.19 spinning thru 1st and 2nd gears @117
Right now in process of 383 upgade and 285s tire upgrade. Please admit that you got owned. Thanks.
http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/...sEVENT_ID=3841
u have to be signed up, but in case you're not
zo6: 44.992
WRS STI: 43.522
me (355ci FC): 43.330
I was on 235 F, 245 R with no traction drifting around the track.
Oh and on 1/4 m I ran 12.19 spinning thru 1st and 2nd gears @117
Right now in process of 383 upgade and 285s tire upgrade. Please admit that you got owned. Thanks.
Originally Posted by pimpncuba
good job. now take you car on a real track like i orginally said. old men drive autox in their z06. good job though i'm impressed by the rxv8-7
https://www.rx7club.com/v-8-powered-rx-7s-299/ls1-fd-pulls-1-13gs-skidpad-431756/
https://www.rx7club.com/v-8-powered-rx-7s-299/road-course-tested-ls1-fd-weekend-402170/
Originally Posted by LT1-10AE
Yawn. It's been done before.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=431756
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=402170
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=431756
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=402170
i don't think so. several of the people on t.c. have range rover v8's in thier mg's or something...but because the other motors are so hard to come by and usually much larger than the pushrod motors, it is usually not even brought up.
i think it would be a great idea for the sound alone, but the wieght of the foreign motors REALLY WOULD KILL THE HANDLING and that's not what the conversion guys want. they want power/handling performance/cost...period.
if you had the money to experiment, you would have a very large and helpful support group on torquecentral.com. i think they would really like to see something like that.
i think it would be a great idea for the sound alone, but the wieght of the foreign motors REALLY WOULD KILL THE HANDLING and that's not what the conversion guys want. they want power/handling performance/cost...period.
if you had the money to experiment, you would have a very large and helpful support group on torquecentral.com. i think they would really like to see something like that.
V-12s are rather lengthy. There are a handful of first gen Z-cars that the owners have stuffed the BMW V-12 in and it takes up damn near every inch of space and requires a dry sump system.
I'd love to stick an Italian powerplant in an RX-7, but the cost of doing so negates the results.
I'd love to stick an Italian powerplant in an RX-7, but the cost of doing so negates the results.
"3)It would lose to its non-piston counterpart...
Not a chance in hell. A very mildly modded LS1 will make over 400whp to the ground. I know there are a few 500+, even 600+ whp 13bs running around...but like I said before, not many. For those, a simple 150shot would probably do the trick. Or, you could go all out and to a turbo LS1...then its all over. How does 800+whp and 700+ft lbs in a 2700lb car sound? The LS1 has WAY more hp potential than any 13b, swap in a 20b and mod the **** out of it and now you might stand a chance. (Of course, they WOULD be killing the handling and 50/50 distribution of the car since the 20b is WAY heavier than an LS1...but you knew that right?) Hinson is working on a twin turbo monster as we speak. The car will hit 1000+ hp and will most likely run 8s on pump gas, and we're not talking about a stripped down car, or a tube chassis or anything. Its an honest to goodness "street" car. I guess theres 13b powered street FD's running 8s on pump gas? riiiiiiight"
HEY.....answer to this ^ is. Yes. Not 8s but 9s. We have an FD here that is a 13b powerd street legal car. By all that stuff you said I take it you havent seen any HighOctane dvds. There is a 9 second on street tyres FD in japan with a full interior and road legal to. Also a 600hp + FD that will woop your stupid ls1 on any track. Do not underestimate the rotary. There are some out there in the world that will kill all cars in there class of racing and specification. Rotary Power all the way.
PS: I hate V8s.
Not a chance in hell. A very mildly modded LS1 will make over 400whp to the ground. I know there are a few 500+, even 600+ whp 13bs running around...but like I said before, not many. For those, a simple 150shot would probably do the trick. Or, you could go all out and to a turbo LS1...then its all over. How does 800+whp and 700+ft lbs in a 2700lb car sound? The LS1 has WAY more hp potential than any 13b, swap in a 20b and mod the **** out of it and now you might stand a chance. (Of course, they WOULD be killing the handling and 50/50 distribution of the car since the 20b is WAY heavier than an LS1...but you knew that right?) Hinson is working on a twin turbo monster as we speak. The car will hit 1000+ hp and will most likely run 8s on pump gas, and we're not talking about a stripped down car, or a tube chassis or anything. Its an honest to goodness "street" car. I guess theres 13b powered street FD's running 8s on pump gas? riiiiiiight"
HEY.....answer to this ^ is. Yes. Not 8s but 9s. We have an FD here that is a 13b powerd street legal car. By all that stuff you said I take it you havent seen any HighOctane dvds. There is a 9 second on street tyres FD in japan with a full interior and road legal to. Also a 600hp + FD that will woop your stupid ls1 on any track. Do not underestimate the rotary. There are some out there in the world that will kill all cars in there class of racing and specification. Rotary Power all the way.
PS: I hate V8s.
Originally Posted by ICE_Pilot
"3)It would lose to its non-piston counterpart...
Not a chance in hell. A very mildly modded LS1 will make over 400whp to the ground. I know there are a few 500+, even 600+ whp 13bs running around...but like I said before, not many. For those, a simple 150shot would probably do the trick. Or, you could go all out and to a turbo LS1...then its all over. How does 800+whp and 700+ft lbs in a 2700lb car sound? The LS1 has WAY more hp potential than any 13b, swap in a 20b and mod the **** out of it and now you might stand a chance. (Of course, they WOULD be killing the handling and 50/50 distribution of the car since the 20b is WAY heavier than an LS1...but you knew that right?) Hinson is working on a twin turbo monster as we speak. The car will hit 1000+ hp and will most likely run 8s on pump gas, and we're not talking about a stripped down car, or a tube chassis or anything. Its an honest to goodness "street" car. I guess theres 13b powered street FD's running 8s on pump gas? riiiiiiight"
HEY.....answer to this ^ is. Yes. Not 8s but 9s. We have an FD here that is a 13b powerd street legal car. By all that stuff you said I take it you havent seen any HighOctane dvds. There is a 9 second on street tyres FD in japan with a full interior and road legal to. Also a 600hp + FD that will woop your stupid ls1 on any track. Do not underestimate the rotary. There are some out there in the world that will kill all cars in there class of racing and specification. Rotary Power all the way.
PS: I hate V8s.
Not a chance in hell. A very mildly modded LS1 will make over 400whp to the ground. I know there are a few 500+, even 600+ whp 13bs running around...but like I said before, not many. For those, a simple 150shot would probably do the trick. Or, you could go all out and to a turbo LS1...then its all over. How does 800+whp and 700+ft lbs in a 2700lb car sound? The LS1 has WAY more hp potential than any 13b, swap in a 20b and mod the **** out of it and now you might stand a chance. (Of course, they WOULD be killing the handling and 50/50 distribution of the car since the 20b is WAY heavier than an LS1...but you knew that right?) Hinson is working on a twin turbo monster as we speak. The car will hit 1000+ hp and will most likely run 8s on pump gas, and we're not talking about a stripped down car, or a tube chassis or anything. Its an honest to goodness "street" car. I guess theres 13b powered street FD's running 8s on pump gas? riiiiiiight"
HEY.....answer to this ^ is. Yes. Not 8s but 9s. We have an FD here that is a 13b powerd street legal car. By all that stuff you said I take it you havent seen any HighOctane dvds. There is a 9 second on street tyres FD in japan with a full interior and road legal to. Also a 600hp + FD that will woop your stupid ls1 on any track. Do not underestimate the rotary. There are some out there in the world that will kill all cars in there class of racing and specification. Rotary Power all the way.
PS: I hate V8s.
He fails to mention the fact that the 13b has to be rebuilt after being driven every 2 miles. Hate V8's? I hate fanboys. V8's are the ultimate compromise between weight, power, and reliability. I can say that and I don't even like muscle cars (except for the almighty Vette). Use your brain before you post.
Use your brain boy. My friends 9 sec street driven 13b never gets rebulit untill it breaks. So **** off. This is saposed to be a die hard rotary fan club. Stop destroying the FD with you american muscle ls1 bullshit. O and to the other fellow. Your a moron but to bad your not a die hard rotary moron.
Aslo the fastest drag spec fd we have here never needs a rebuild unless something happens. It dose 8.4 sec if you were wondering. Soon to be low 7 sec passes this weekend.
Aslo the fastest drag spec fd we have here never needs a rebuild unless something happens. It dose 8.4 sec if you were wondering. Soon to be low 7 sec passes this weekend.
Originally Posted by ICE_Pilot
Use your brain boy. My friends 9 sec street driven 13b never gets rebulit untill it breaks.
you also have to take into account the research and development of the piston engines vs. rotary engines. piston engines have been around longer so they should be be more reliable. 10-20 years down the road with more r\'n\'d who knows we actually might harness the true potential of the rotary. but for now i would love to see a motor hold 400-500 hp per liter without being rebuilt, i dont see to many 2000 hp street cars.
Originally Posted by hondahater
yeah I know when you push alot of hp out of a small displacement motor it is destine to pop but that is what makes it special to me that a 1.3L rotary engine can pump out as much hp as those big v8's. Now I tell you what for some reason I have always wanted to put a supra TT engine in one and pump out 1200hp out of it, now that would be fun but I'm just more partial to smaller engines beating the **** out of big ones. I think it stems back to always rooting for the underdog no matter what sport it is and to me a smaller displacement engine kicking the crap out of a v8 is just very satisfying to me 

agreed.... I love the sound of the Rotary far over a v8, personally. My second favorite car is the Supra. They are just sick, just plain sick!
Chris
If any of you have ever seen High Octane Detonate, then you would have seen 2 race spec cars. One being a tiny little 12a in an FC VS a 600hp ford V8 super car. First lap the V8 gets to the corner first and takes the lead. Not for long though. FC is right on him. Makes the pass and leaves the V8 **** in the dust. Killed it big time. The FC pulled away so far the V8 never had a chance. Rotary power rules. Dont know if you american boys know about the le-mans racing at Bathurst in Aus but the RX7 FD was up against everything and beat them all for 4 years in a row. Even trashed the top porshes back in the day. This was from 92 to 95.
My only street-legal car right now is a 1990 Rx7 13-BT Turbovert.....so you can be sure, this is not a h8r thread......
13b vs V8 doesn't make any sence.
An N/A V8 can easily obtain 450-550 hp......An N/A 13b is limited to an absolute maximum (at least that I've seen) of 220 hp (maybe 250-260, is you consider Renisis).
If you really want to compare the 13b to a pistion engine....count the sides of the rotors.....(13b=6......20b=9)
The performance specs of a 2-rotor engine much more comparable to most V6's (this works for 12A, 13B, and Renisis, when the time of release is taken into context)
Also, even though the Hp might be the same (in most cases), the rotary engines still lag behind a bit, due to a huge lacking in the torque department.
13b vs V8 doesn't make any sence.
An N/A V8 can easily obtain 450-550 hp......An N/A 13b is limited to an absolute maximum (at least that I've seen) of 220 hp (maybe 250-260, is you consider Renisis).
If you really want to compare the 13b to a pistion engine....count the sides of the rotors.....(13b=6......20b=9)
The performance specs of a 2-rotor engine much more comparable to most V6's (this works for 12A, 13B, and Renisis, when the time of release is taken into context)
Also, even though the Hp might be the same (in most cases), the rotary engines still lag behind a bit, due to a huge lacking in the torque department.
Originally Posted by 12RotorMonster
Also, even though the Hp might be the same (in most cases), the rotary engines still lag behind a bit, due to a huge lacking in the torque department.
As for the "street" I have the blower, it defintley takes care of having no low end torque, and I still have the high end Rotary power that they are known for...
Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
How often are you starting off in a straight line at the track? Not often...unless you're in a drag track.
As for the "street" I have the blower, it defintley takes care of having no low end torque, and I still have the high end Rotary power that they are known for...
As for the "street" I have the blower, it defintley takes care of having no low end torque, and I still have the high end Rotary power that they are known for...
I said, In most cases
but, as for the blower, I had one, back when I had an N/A...and I have to agree with pianoprodigy.....
Also I forgot to mention......Some V8's have the capabulity of having 150-200 more torque than horsepower.....the very best a rotary do is to equalize HP and Ft.-lbs.
but, as for the blower, I had one, back when I had an N/A...and I have to agree with pianoprodigy.....
Also I forgot to mention......Some V8's have the capabulity of having 150-200 more torque than horsepower.....the very best a rotary do is to equalize HP and Ft.-lbs.


