LT1-10AE

Hahaha... don't get too upset. I posted that about 10 minutes after I woke up from a nap and the words didn't come out right.

When I first read it, I read it as FD vs FD and by the time I finished what I was posting I realized it was an FD vs Z06. After competely waking up and coming to my senses, it's pretty obvious it doesn't make sense... hehe

I'll have to remember the PowerStroke comment for the next V8s are heavy post

academytim

Actually you would be surprised about the curb weight of a Z06. 2hotrods ran a 383 Ligenfelter Z06 on a highway pull and lost by about a car from 70-140+. We looked up the stock curb weight and its sub 3100lbs. Somewhere in the 3050 range. Open the exhaust by removing the 2 cats on that thing and its feasable to get a Z06 into the 29xx range. I was really surprised to find that out as a basic C5 is over 3200 lbs.

Mazsport

BTW: Just smoked an FD who dynoed 360 rwhp with a slipping clutch (and has since replaced it). No nitrous. Pushrod Powah! Hehe[/QUOTE]
Interesting, I heard the runs went 2 and 2 from a dig? Perhaps a different car.

CrispyRX7

iTrader: (139)

Google search: Z06 curb weight
Stock
C6 Z06 curb weight: 3130
C5 Z06 curb weight: 3118
Regular C5 3246

Base model FD RX7 curb weigth 2789
Just as a data point for the heck of it, my car fully loaded (roll bar, stereo, A/C etc.) with my fat *** in the car and with all my gear (helmet, harnesses, etc) and 3/4 tank of fuel weighed 3030.

Sure seems to me to be near a 400lb delta on average
(shrug)

As for your "tuner" Z06 anyone can cite a car that weighs less, that wasn't my point. But it's ok if you want to be defensive...I understand

Crispy
- and before you get your undies in a bind my daily driver has an LS6 motor

academytim

Wasn't being defensive...just trying to stop the spread of misinformation of 3300+lb Z06 curb weights. So it seams you don't need to get YOUR undies in a bunch. I never said there wasn't a weight advantage. That wasn't MY point. But its okay, I understand too. I simply said that a Z06 doesn't weigh anywhere near 3300lbs. Seems I was right. Also, what you found on google was about 60lbs off of what I pulled out of my memory...but about 200lbs off of what you quoted the weight being at. It's nice that you have an LS6 in your "daily." Wouldn't it be nice to have that much power/reliability in a lighter package? Then you could "daily" your RX7 instead of leaving it in the garage.


PS-and I LOVE how you pick the weight of the absolute lightest version of a 3rd gen there is. How bout we look up the weight of the most common 3rd gen. The touring models that comprise about 75% of the FD population come in at around 2950. So your stock to stock 400+lb weight advantage has shrunken down now to about 170lbs.

The only point I was trying to make was that a Z06 is a lot lighter than you would think. Seems that your google search probably surprised you too seeing as you thought that they were 3300lbs. If you took anything else from my post, you read a little too deep into it.

CrispyRX7

iTrader: (139)

(commence pissing contest)
I knew it would be insane to jump into the assinine thead. My own stupid mistake. Lesson learned.

OK so simple math 3130 - 2789 = 341 delta for the Z06 analogy. 3246 - 2789 = 457 for the generic C5 analogy. So sorry I was not exact from the get go to avoid ANY possible misintrepretation by the apparently "number" paranoid.
In case you need help: 2789 plus 400lbs (which I loosely tossed out BTW) = 3189lbs. Was I spreading misinformation...I think not. Was I exact? No. Was I intending it to be exact? No. The 3300lb quote was indeed incorrect.
But I submit the weight difference is in the noise as individual drivers weight vary by the differences seen here (3189 vs 3130), or maybe if you are running a quart low on oil, or carry a handgun in your glovebox, or have floor mats, or a roll of CD's on the visor, or the amont of gas in the car, or a few pnnies in the ashtray, or if you take crap before you drive or not. It's not that big a deal...really it isn't.

Seems you were the first to jump all over my light hearted comment about the young mans fathers new Z06 purchase. And I stress lighthearted. Seems some people are wound a little too tight to manage casual conversation. Oh wait...we don't have casual conversation on the internet do we?

I did...and it WAS mine.

Neither did I say a Z06 weighs anywhere near 300lbs. And yes you ARE right.

Google search criteria: "Z06 curb weight", or "2006 Z06 curb weight". But we all know the internet is all about spreading misinformation.

I do.

I do drive my rather rare FD to work at least once a week but prefer not to expose it regularly to snow, road salt, rain, 20mph stop and go freeway traffic, and the idiots who park 2 inches from me in the parking garage where I work. Has nothing to do with lack of power or reliabilty in my case. See above.

Crispy

academytim

Again, see post #375 jackass. I quoted it for you once already. You posted a retaliatory comment towards LT1-10AE saying that a Z06 weighs 3300lbs. Here it is for you AGAIN in its entirety.

I replied with this post..

"Actually you would be surprised about the curb weight of a Z06. 2hotrods ran a 383 Ligenfelter Z06 on a highway pull and lost by about a car from 70-140+. We looked up the stock curb weight and its sub 3100lbs. Somewhere in the 3050 range. Open the exhaust by removing the 2 cats on that thing and its feasable to get a Z06 into the 29xx range. I was really surprised to find that out as a basic C5 is over 3200 lbs."


Now kindly explain to me how I started a "pissing contest" with you? Where in that post am I being defensive...or even offensive for that matter. I simply made a statement about how the weight of a Z06 would surprise you. Nothing more. I didn't do it in a malicious way at all. Seems you are the one getting defensive and trying to start a pissing contest.

So kindly put your e-***** away. No one wants to see it.

CrispyRX7

iTrader: (139)

Now that I have been called a jackass with an e-***** I humbly withdraw from this discussion. I will not stoop to such a level as to retort with name-calling. You are correct that I did indeed provide the 3300lb curb weight incorrectly and recognized this after posting the above but was not timely enough to correct the error before you replied. In short though, to further this discussion serves purpose and only results in negative feelings. Personally I have confirmed but one thing, the internet is a hostile and unforgiving environment.

To the thread starter my apologies for crapping up your thread.

And to Cgotto6, be sure to give Pops a good run for his money in his new Z06

Peace,
Crispy

academytim

Check your PM's.

jparker7

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I dont understand why u rotary puriest care what i do with my car. I bought my rx-7 specifically to put an ls1 t56 combo in it. I never even drove the car rotary powered. Its not that i dont like the rotory or have anything against people who do, but I wanted a V8 so thats what i bought. I dont know much about rotorys and didnt want to have to figure it out all on my own when i blew an apex seal. On torquecentral.com u cant hardly find any thread with someone bashing on the rotary engine. Thats not what its about. Its about helping your fellow car enthutiest with there project or finding information you need. Rx7 club was no help to me finding parts or getting questions answered. Most people on ere act like there better than people who drive piston powerd cars. Your not you just like to rebuild your motor every winter. I may rebuild mine this winter but to put a larger cam and better valve train, stronger push rods, It wont be becasue it blew up casue it was starved for fuel for a couple seconds while taking a corner hard. Easy swap, lots of power out of the box, can have 500hp easily cheaply and reliably + still all on pump gas with 25+ mph. Those are the best reasons to do the swap. We dont do it to **** rotards off casue we dont give a **** what you guys think there our cars. Ive never been in a rotary powerd car that impressed me like my car has.

bugg1

Easy. your not representing TC very well. You seem a little mad.

I can understand why this board is different from TC as far as the arguements, look at the very first icon in the smiles........

Kinda says it all.

txturbogs

Rotards...LOL.

eds90gxl

I would still agree with keeping the car with it's reg. motor, especially a rotary, we all know what the monster v8's can do, there is no science nor big wup to it from such a huge engine, that most people take advantage of and beef up. But, I think the challenge is the whole 1.3 liter trying to do it's best and hold it's own with bigger and faster cars and engines. Point being, to each his own in being unique, the engine makes the car for the most part.

audiobot7

Wow, never heard this before.