2hotrods

A pair of v-8 RX-7's, FC w/ LT-1 vs FD w/ Head/Cam LS-1. 20-120 race in rural Florida. Give you an idea of how quick these cars really are... Short 15 second, 1.8 meg MP4 video. Needs Quicktime to play.

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|aFk| LiMiTz

wow good kill...thats one of the few 8 cylinder 7s I have seen footage of......kind of weird when you expect the sounds of a rotary but you get the mean growl of a v8...nice car

hondahater

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what an horrible sound I wish it would have been two heavily modded re rx7's. I've only seen one fc vs. fd and the fc wasn't modded. Oh well whatever floats your boat.

Turbo23

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they just done seem the same with that sound, im sooo used to hearing a rotary, poor cars, i hope they crash....kidding

cloead

Soooooooo badassss


I want a v8 vert some day.

binz

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it defeats the purpose and everything that a rotary stands for. a mod that no rx-7 should have to go through..... but to each their own i guess.

ecoli_23

too bad it would lose to its non piston counter part

pianoprodigy

If you're going to use the cliche, at least use it properly.

"To each his own"

Oh, and I think V8 swaps are awesome.

fastcarfreak

sound does not match car at all. All i think is camaro or firebird when I hear that sound. I would never want my FD to sound like that. But then again, it must be pretty badass to have a fast and reliable FD. I guess you have to sacrifice somewhere, hehe. Good look on the vid.

jarred

u just killed the handling of your rx7...good job but whatever gets your goat

iceman4357

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horrible sound for such a pretty car.

Cosmo_TT

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LOL


hahahaha

LOL

academytim

Everytime I read one of these threads I just sit and shake my head. "you killed your handling...you took the "soul" out...it woud lose to its nonpiston counterpart" etc, etc, etc. I guess ignorance is bliss. I can guarantee that NONE of you have ever ridden in or seen an LS1 FD in person. Let's adress these one by one...

1)You killed your handling-
Really? How so? The car retains its 50/50 weight distribution after the swap seeing as the weight between an LS1 and a 13brew with the turbos/intercooler/etc is about 30lbs. Move the battery to the back (which you have to do anyway), and the car is just as balanced as it was before. I guess you go into everyone's thread posting about the stereo system they put in there FD and start posting about how they killed the handling right? This conversion does NOT kill the handling. The car still handles the same. The CG of the engine post/prior conversion changes about 1.5%...meaning that if you had a professional driver driving both cars, he may notice the absolute slightest of difference...however the extra 200 ft/lbs of torque to get you out of the corner MORE than makes up for it. In other words...an LS1 FD will beat an equivelant powered rotary FD around a road course. It's called area under the curve...look it up.

2)You took the "soul" out.
Yeah, I guess you're right. He took one of the most finicky, unreliable, gas hogging "souls" out of the car and replaced it with a more efficient, reliable soul. Did I mention that it makes well over 400 whp N/A? AND gets 30mpg on the interstate? Are there any rotary FD's that can do that? Nope. 400whp FD's are few and far between. Yes, they are out there...but the vast majority of the ones that have the mods capable of doing it, either aren't tuned correctly or aren't running correctly. I have every bolt on there is on my FD, including a PowerFC, intercooler, etc, etc, etc...and my car would absolutely get RAPED by 2hotrod's car. So I guess some people are content to keep the "soul" in there. I obviously have my 13brew still, so it must be for a reason. I understand that you like the idea that it makes the car unique, etc. But guess what, the car with the LS1 conversion is even MORE unique.

3)It would lose to its non-piston counterpart...
Not a chance in hell. A very mildly modded LS1 will make over 400whp to the ground. I know there are a few 500+, even 600+ whp 13bs running around...but like I said before, not many. For those, a simple 150shot would probably do the trick. Or, you could go all out and to a turbo LS1...then its all over. How does 800+whp and 700+ft lbs in a 2700lb car sound? The LS1 has WAY more hp potential than any 13b, swap in a 20b and mod the **** out of it and now you might stand a chance. (Of course, they WOULD be killing the handling and 50/50 distribution of the car since the 20b is WAY heavier than an LS1...but you knew that right?) Hinson is working on a twin turbo monster as we speak. The car will hit 1000+ hp and will most likely run 8s on pump gas, and we're not talking about a stripped down car, or a tube chassis or anything. Its an honest to goodness "street" car. I guess theres 13b powered street FD's running 8s on pump gas? riiiiiiight.


In summary...you all have the right to your own opinion (even if you are misinformed or wrong alltogether). But try to at least have a little bit of knowledge about this conversion before you step up and start bashing it. My guess is that everyone here who just bashed this car would get there asses stomped by it, and afterwards would be crying about how they don't care if its faster, there's is better because it still has the "soul" of the Rx7. Or how they don't like the sound of an uncorked V8, they prefer the sound of the uncorked weed whacker that an opened up 13b has.

I'll get off my soapbox now. Please, continue to bash something you know absolutely nothing about.

RXciting

I guess a more appropriate thing to say about that is the fact that putting a V8 into an RX car is something few ppl would do. Most ppl that got an RX-7, including myself, was for the "Rotary" engine. wasn't for the looks wasn't for the Handling (Initially) and wasn't for the RWD (again, initially ) but again for the rotary engine. For me taking the Rotary out of an RX-7 kinda defeats the purpose of getting one. I guess its not so much as taking the soul out but rather taking out the reason some if not most of us got an RX-7 to begin with

In any case i'm sure those cars are fast, and to some more enjoyable now that the non piston counter part has been removed. BUT DOES THE FD DRIVER REALLY HAVE A MOHAWK?, OR IS IT A MULLET?!!

88t2romad

im not a "swap" fan or anything, but i agree with what he said. Seems like when a thread about a piston swapped fd or whatever comes out, the idiots aernt far behind.

hondahater

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I don't know why you call us idiots? We are just rotary enthusiasts that have an opinion like everyone else. I have ridden in a v8 thank you very much and was not impressed at all, sorry, there is no originality in a v8 in my opinion they have been around forever and a day in muscle cars, trucks, cars blah blah blah witch is fine if you are into that but to me the rx7's main point of interest to me and probably a good portion of the people on this board is the uniqueness of a rotary engine.

b0b

you have no idea what your talking about.

BalticMkiv

awesome vid!

kukri

why would u say something like that when you have no idea what you're talking about..


btw great vid

jarred

i do have an idea thank u very much...i just don't get why some people swap in big *** v8's into their rx7's...i think the owner has a mullet

Whizbang

i would have no problem putting in a LS1 if it meant saving a 7 from the junkyard. i have two rotary vechiles and might get a vert for an LT1 crusing car. just for the hell of it.

ForceFed

No, apparently you don't have any idea what you are talking about.

First off it is his car to do what he pleases with. If he wants to put a V8 in it, then so be it.

Second, the V8 swap does not "ruin" the handling of the car, as was already pointed out. I'd like to further note that the LS1/LT1 swap does however change the car's polar moment a wee bit but a professional driver would be able to sense that difference on a track the first corner he hits. For someone as mindless as you, you'd never know.

Lastly, V8s are not synonomous with mullets. If so, please tell Honda, Toyota, Nissan, BMW, Porsche and Ferrari that.

Stop riding the rotary bandwagon. All you little kiddies blindly love the rotary and you don't even know why, other than it's "different". Well different isn't always better. Don't get me wrong. I love my CYM RX-7 but if the motor ever popped in it, a LS-6 would probably find its way in there so fast it'd make you rotary-worshipping kiddies blush

pimpncuba

what is the alure of the v8 vert? is there anything that sets the vert apart from the coupes? i have seen many people who want to do this swap someday

Whizbang

i am i car enthusist and not an advocate of one idea or style. though i still find things i dont like (only human) i like all things car. again, ive helped my boss with his 1925 model T. even you (post above this) are being almost the same as the rotary diehards. obivously you are gung ho on the v8 while others would prefer to keep rotary only. neither would consider anyother option to any serious extent. a person's car is a person's car and well, they will do what they like. hell i even think the sr swapped FC is pretty damn sweet. why? because i like all cars so i wil obviously have no problem with mixing them together. well, when i saw all cars i mean all other than KIA and hyundia. those can die. damn GM outsourceing projectsl.

Fatman0203

Dam that thing sounds weird, no way to muffle it down a bit? Sweet ride none the less.