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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 01:05 AM
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I have modded knuckles, tie rod ends, with my manual rack. It feels better than the depowered rack to me.
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by airquin23
I have modded knuckles, tie rod ends, with my manual rack. It feels better than the depowered rack to me.
That’s good to know. About two weeks ago, I was talking to Jeff Abbott about a week ago on FB, (lotta miata guys run many racks) and he said he’d never want to run a manual (or depowered) rack because of his knuckle kit and caster, and he’s always just ran PS racks.. I guess it really is all preference…
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Yea funny thing is I think it feels better now with the knuckles than before.
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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anyone can run any setup. its just what you get used to.

grease is probably better than ps fluid though for depowered rack
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Maybe this is the wrong question for this thread but for those of you that have pb max suspension: how would you say they are in grip aplications? I know a good suspension is a good suspension but I'm curious.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 01:54 AM
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Drifting IS a grip application.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NoPistons!
Drifting IS a grip application.
i mean in grip driving yo.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 06:20 AM
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By "grip" we can assume it's running springs with higher rates.
We don't want too stiff, especially on the rears, because we need a lot more traction.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Im not asking about drifting at all...
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Linguo415
Maybe this is the wrong question for this thread but for those of you that have pb max suspension: how would you say they are in grip aplications? I know a good suspension is a good suspension but I'm curious.
Probably just fine, however the toe/camber and tire set up would need tweaked compared to drift.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 11:59 PM
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theyd be good still... just mess with the settings/setup
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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Slotting trailing arms for more camber adjustment? Yay or nay? free mod or too much stress to stay in adjustment?
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 01:28 AM
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Going for a KAAZ 1.5way in the future. I was gonna get the TII one off mazdatrix, and I was assuming I'd use the S4 TII half shafts and custom driveshaft. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 01:45 AM
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For those of you who drift n/a, should I be running wider tires up front to help with understeer? Or same size all around? I always tend to have trouble with understeer at the track. Clutch kicking helps with understeer of course, but many times the car continues straight instead of rotating sideways. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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Try ebraking and initiating earlier then you think. I would initiate too late and then just understeer
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Old May 2, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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I run N/A all day, dont really matter what tires I run, so don't thnk it would really matter 4 ya. I usually run 205/50/16 all around on my C.V mesh's though.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 12:55 AM
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i havent read all 40 pages.
but what are drifters running for rear sub frame set ups. heard they were not the best?
im going v8 in my s5 vrt and have a welded diff and pbm coils.
im wondering what i should do. any tips help.
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Old May 10, 2011 | 02:28 AM
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Read all 40 pages. Rear subframe setup can be whatever you want but the main things are keeping the front diff mount in check and considering your rear camber options.

For instance: Sub link will not work with solid subframe mounts.

Individual camber adjusters will NOT work with delrin or aluminum trailing arm bushings as there is zero free movement. IIRC this also effects toe angle as well. Stock or spherical bearings are the way to go if you care about fine tuning your rear alignment.

The front diff mounting point on the subframe can actually rip out of the subframe if there is too much force/movement on it. The diff mount itself can sheer into two peices. They sell truck bump stops from energy suspension at most local auto parts stores for $10ish. Just drill a hole in your chassis and put it right on the nose of the diff. It will keep it from moving upwards when you do clutch kicks or get on the gas.
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Old May 14, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NoPistons!
The front diff mounting point on the subframe can actually rip out of the subframe if there is too much force/movement on it. The diff mount itself can sheer into two peices. They sell truck bump stops from energy suspension at most local auto parts stores for $10ish. Just drill a hole in your chassis and put it right on the nose of the diff. It will keep it from moving upwards when you do clutch kicks or get on the gas.
+1,000,000. I've been through 3 mounts in 4 events before using a bump stop off a truck down in a wrecking yard to stop all the play. Now I blow clutches up
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Old May 15, 2011 | 12:11 AM
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so how are people keeping their camber in check with solid or delrin bushings out back? I know there are some of you out there. I'm thinking of just getting new OEM bushings and a combination of adjustable sub link and individual adjusters for now. got pbm coils so stiffness should be all right, I ain't doing serious competitions yet. its another drift/daily na ride for now.

I need to find davedge's setup again for his rear subframe but he also put like $1500 and custom work into it. I'm the usual broke FC drifter so ya.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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do you guys have any pic.s of that truck bump stop installed? thanks
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Old May 16, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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Just search bumpstops. You'll find some pics.
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Old May 21, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aeagles
do you guys have any pic.s of that truck bump stop installed? thanks

I do not. It's really simple though. Like, the diff tunnel is between the rear bins/seats. There should be a dimple right in the middle or sliglty offset. Drill through it. Use a large bit though like 1/2". Whatever is big enough to get the supplied nut in there. After you drill that hole, drill through the second layer but the same size as the bump stop shank.

It's easy. You'll see it when you remove the stuff and look back there and be like "oh, i c!" I've got a few other cheap/free tricks i'd like to try here in a bit. I just spent a good part of the day playing with my alignment and ride height..... Adjusting the rear end is a pain in the ***. 240 guys have it made. *******.....


The subframe bushings, you will want either energy suspension (it's flexy rubber but not super soft like oe) or oem if you want good range of adjustment. You cannot tilt the subrame for camber if you are using solid bushings and a single sublink. It's just not gonna happen. Most just slam the **** or leave it alone and just mess with toe and deal with whatever camber they end up with. I've had 3 sessions on my mmr camber links and they haven't broken yet. So far, so good.
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Old May 21, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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ultimate drift setup bone stock n/a welded diff straight pipe to 3in blowout no front bumper raisin hell license plate and a shot clutch!!!!!!!
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