It must be that time again where I get pulled away from my work to deal with some BS mis-fact Info. Glad to hear that there is a Hero for FD work....more power to ya. Just hope that your car that is being worked on is one like the Silver car that Max is doing the engine on which I personally owned. It is low mileage and clean. No 3rd gen BS. The other one which hit the wall at Race city we have worked on alot and is also clean and low mileage. Once the FD's with high mileage and butchered from BC show up.....maybe it will set straight that alot of these headache cars are not as straight forward as they seem. Lets see if your bill on parts changes your tune on if you really got screwed by us. The Silver car is one we built and it was built right. The issue is that the previous owner who purchased the car from me wanted the Intercooler for a car show. The owner was told NOT to run the car into boost until we had a chance to install a PFC and tune it. The owner admittedly ran the car on high boost with no tuning as there was no PFC and the facroty apex seal broke. We re-did the engine and explained that he would need a PFC to maximize the performance and to be able to tune it. The guy sold the car all in the same space of getting to that stage and the new owner goes to the track and runs the car hard without tuning. We were never asked to perform a tune and if it was tuned....it wasnt by us. This is not a build issue...this was tuning neglect. The e-shaft issue I am told is speculative. we know how to tell the difference between shafts. The question is...is the new builder guessing or assumeing or does he really know how to tell the difference. The difference is easily identifyable...... someone prove to me that he knows what the difference is? Chances are he does not. In fact, we have got calls from reputable shops asking us if there is a difference and how to tell. We were surprised but none the less....15 yr. and running shops did not know the difference. We do!
B@@stedfd (Greg) before you go spouting off like you know it all.....tell it like it really is! Yes we built your car... origionally! And I have no doubt that Max has identifyed some errors with plug wires and other plugs. Why are you leaving out the part that "Fidell" your other Hero mechanic had taken that engine completely out of your car to do the GT35R kit. Or did he not tell you that. FYI, I know this because all the stuff you bought from him I sold him myself. Plus, we helped you out when he f....ed up your engine / waterpump housing and brought us the engine and asked us to fix it. Maybe he left that out too! Bottom line Greg....Fidell was the last guy to touch your car and installed the engine , wiring harness and plug wires. So are you being a **** disturber and causing drama or did you get f...ed overe by Fidell and are just blaming us??? I said it before and I'll say it again...if you are making assumptions or have been led to beleive that you have problems with our work....come down in person and talk to me instead of hiding behind user names. Greg, you are a coward to make statements like this and so are all the guys who turn to us for work and advice and then post BS just to stay on good terms with the other group. Its funny how none of this gets brought to our attention in person. The only effort made in the last 5 years Was in fact Greg who brought down a set of 99spec turbos which we sold him new as we can only get them new. He accuseed us of selling him used ones yet those who know third gens will know that small cracks develope very early especially when running higher EGT's and higher boost levels. Anyone who tells you otherwise is inexperienced. And if Max wants to claim we re-used parts then maybe he should become a bit more experienced himself with identifying which parts show signs of wear beofre others. we have 7 third gens here for engines, 13 more on our build list and have over 200 out there
When the article was done in RX tuner magazine, the engine you saw there was no different than the ones we sell our customers. They were able to get 450 RWHP on pump gas and same with hundreds of others. Marco at Forcefed uses our dowell pinning, apex seals and buys his parts from us to complete his builds. He makes over 700HP (race gas obviously) and Ari at RX7.com makes over 700 with 3mm seals so whos proving up our stuff and our engine build techniques? You assumptious guys wont know cause you dont know.
If TD07 has pulled apart so many of our engines and knows so much....how come the customers haven't come here to show us these parts etc? Cris Ng brought pictures and that was the closest thing to Greg bringing down the turbos. He accused us of missing the corner plugs. There are 5 builders I can list who have the experience to know that the rubbers can disinegrate from high temps / boost (heat) and more easily crumble into the end ports rather than the int. ports. Hence the reason some are still there. That is why I prefer solid CS's for high boost. But the guys who dont take apart or build hunderds of engines each year dont know cause they dont know. If TD07 is such a pro and has the skills to offer builds to suit everyones budget....where is your shop? And if you dont want to work on rotaries...why aren't you on the forum which relates to your line of work where your expertise would count? Peoples opinions and assumptions would count if you show us 16 years of dedicated rotary experience. If you dont practise rotaries every day for work....
why the heck should anyone beleive what you have to say? Show proof to my face and explain WHY you beleive what you do....maybe you'll show something above hiding behind user names! We dont claim to build every engine the same way because we cant. the customer budget dictates new or re-used rotor housings. 2 or 3mm seals. Ceramic coatings and balanceing. The list goes on. The guys who claim they are pros need to realize one thing...not everyone asks us to build a $5000 engine. If they do they get it. It is clearly explained to the customer no different then Mazdatrix explains their builds. Part of running a business is accommodating the customers pocketbook.....not just installing as many new parts as available. Narrow minded generalized comments will make no sense to those who know what they are talking about. Most of what I read is like mumbo jumbo crap talk. Stick to what you know and preach what you practise. And if you dont have first hand proof and knowledge of what you hear....dont repeat it. If you want to spout off randomly....you should have no problem coming down here and spouting it to my face. I've always encouraged it!
Sincerely, Adam Heyman

 

BTW....how rude of me....I hope this event is fulfilling to all who participate. We do feel that organizing events like this should be something we arrange but we also know how many problems might arrise from the smack talk and dont want to interrupt your group. I have asked several of our customers if they would like it if we did something like that and there exact words were "that sounds like contraversay". I encourage you all to meet but would appreciate those who use us for services to stay loyal by not blending in with some of the crowd who smack talk. All too often someone says something trashy on this forum and then comes in for work the following week....preaching us the whole time.
Enjoy the drive / meet and enjoy your RX7. Adam

 

Blah blah blah. Don't lecture me on what I should and should not do you arogant *****. I don't own a shop and I don't work on other people's car for a living. Most importanting I don't charge them for shitty workmanship. I don't give two ***** if you or others believe what I say, fact of the matter is at this point your in damage control mode and everyone can see it.

 

My eyes hurt reading this and this Is after confirming I have 20/10 vision just last week. I'm curious to know how a planning a meet thread has over 126 posts. I don't know what controversy Is taking place out west but If this thread becomes a big smear campaign or sheet fest than It will be closed.

 

TD07, are you alias posting? I think we all know who you are! You mentioned you have seen me use second gen shafts in third gens before? I dont beleive you...your just exaggerating. Now tell me.....how do you tell the difference between the second and third gen shaft. Would you meet me to tell me the what you think mof me to my face? Maybe then you can prove to me how knowledgable you are. I all up for convincing me I am incapable. Maybe you should come to the shop and see what we do. I think youd have a change of tune about what you can do vs. what we can do.

 

Hmm.. all the corner rubbers were missing on 1 side of the rotor.. the 3 other sides had the rubbers still in them.. intact with no damage.. so now, after almost a year, you've decided to come up with a new explanation as to what happened to the plugs?? somehow, the high temps and boost only affected a single side of the rotor? .. I showed you those pictures.. you sat there and had no explanation for me.. you never gave me this bs excuse... Do you recall telling me that you would even lap my housings for me, and if I needed any parts such as housings you could help me out, so long as I appologized for my post and didn't say anything about our conversation?? buying my silence wasn't going to work though...

anyhow adam.. I have not said a thing about you on these fourms in a very long time.. I've realized that it's pointless to argue with you or ryan.. people can find out on their own.. if they want to continue to get burnt by you, then it's their own fault.. I would appreciate that you do not bring my name up in any of your silly made up rantings of half truths anylonger..

by the way, you claim that you only sell brand new jspec 99 spec turbos.. I guess that would make the guy in town who sold you your last set of used turbos a liar then.. and I would hope that the person you sold the turbos to and made over a 2000 profit from doesn't know how to tell new from used..

I'd really like to know what kinda drugs you are on that make you feel compelled to lie as much as you do..

oh wait.. I already do..

 

Always comes down to what "others" can't do huh? The "others" you speak of, don't work on other people's car's and charge for it. YOU do Adam. This is not an alias by the way. None the less blah blah blah. I will not be coming by your shop for any reason, my car thanks me everyday for that.

 

Chris, I never bartered with you about helping you if you promised not to post. You stated you were out of line and said youd fix it. I offered to help you but you never brought the parts to lapp etc. You dissappeared. You know damn well if you had brought the stuff I would help like I have in the past. I appologize for using your name...it was mearly an example of showing how guys should deal with their issues and deal with me in person. I did tell you that the plugs can disinegrate but told you that the one face only didnt add up.
The large port side makes sense...just not the one rotor but I have seen this on other 93 engines which I did NOT build....so has Rick at Rotary Performance and Cam at Pettit.I gave the example too to show that guys who claim accusations are often wrong based on experience. I am sorry i used your name...I should have said "a customer". You dont have to be on drugs to lie and you dont have to make it sound like I am a liar period. I am always the one showing examples and proof from experience whereas you have generalized and guessed to the best of your ability. What guy did I just sell 99 used turbos to? You seem to always know more than I do! Did I tell you this? I have sold alot of used turbo sets factory 93 but not 99 spec. I have however sold 13 sets of new 99 turbos this year. WTF are you talking about? BTW I thought you left this forum....why were you on it or paying attention at all. You told everyone you had no use for this forum.
TD07, your Bla Bla Bla statements is a tactic to avoid the questions and accountability. You stated that you have taken apart engines more than once whereby I used a second gen shaft in a third gen engine. How do you know the difference? If you dont know and you are guessing....dont make statements which are guesses. I know the difference and it can be described in one sentence. So lets hear it? Dont take too long to do your research though....you replied within 8 minutes and you are shown to be online as we speak...so lets hear it.

 

Sigh.. adam.. I have have never shown proof and examples? I have always generalized and guessed? .. Pictures were taken of the whole teardown of the motor, every step.. was that not proof enough?? arn't you mearly guessing as well as to what actually happened to the corner plugs?? or are you telling me that you know 100% what happened to them??

anyhow, it doesn't really matter any more does it? the motor was torn down last year, all it's flaws were fixed.. my current motor with low compression s4 rotors now makes much more power than then motor you had built with high compression s5 rotors.. this was with the same tune and same boost levels... You and I both know we will never deal with each other again.. and so that is why I stopped bringing you up on the forums.. like I said, nobody will ever win an internet argument, and people will belive who they want to... in the end some people will just learn a hard lesson.. be it at your hands or mine..

Listen, you were the one who brought my name up in these forums...so don't feel that I should not reply back to you in that situation.. just because i had said i was no longer going to post in here doesn't give you the right to freely use me as one of your feeble examples..

and you are right adam.. you don't have to be on drugs to lie .. some people just lie all the time, high or not..

 

Does anyone remember this was a meet thread?? An opportunity to meet other RX7 enthusiasts over a beer and burger. A chance for some to see where they can take there car to become. An opportunity to envy what others have done to theirs. This was started as a friendly post, not a shooting gallery. I for one find Max to be a nice guy, pleasant to talk to and has offered positive advice in the past. Adam has also treated me well. Many like to flame my s/c and it's net results, I went with the s/c with big hopes after reading Code Blues raves on the setup and Alak's raves after seeing Niels car. "I" chose the s/c because I figured my engine was healthy enough to handle it and Conroy supported the idea (Adam cringed and Dan Atkins advised otherwise as well) and well, it didn't. I struck a deal with Conroy on the charger and install and then met Adam and gave him the opportunity to match it since he was local. Adam gave me a lot of work and good parts for the very tight budget I had provided him with. His guys put a lot of extra effort off the books as well. With what I have learned now, I would go turbo over s/c in a heartbeat! I have met many of you guys in the past couple of meets and sure there are lines between ya, but never-the-less we all share a common interest. Let's all just remember this is about an "enthusiast" meet.

 

Chris, you need a different day job. You are obviously not time constrained. I wonder how much work and what quality you push out when you always have time to follow forums you dont even pay attention to. Your quick to respond but If I were your employer, I'd be pissed at your wasteing their time. Oh, of course, your off work...so I guess you never work as you post around the clock. Are you good at what you do? Seems like your car and rotaries are much more interesting to you then what you do. Maybe you should take stop doing the drugs which make you lazy!
PS did you just change the rotors and apex seals or did you completely rebuild it. Maybe if Shawn O wanted to do the stuff you just did to the daily street driver....we could have had him making the power you make now. But he ran a stock turbo with a mild street port. The seals we know dont add power. And based on your kiss *** to Max's opinions, you probably ported it to large big single specs. And you didn't re-tune it? Maybe my ports were OK afterall and you felt that there was no need to re edit the Haltec based on your S4 rotors and different ports??? You are so smart!

 

I bought a PS2 once. It worked for about 3 days it completely crapped out. By chance, I got a defective one.



My point is, every once in awhile a crappy built product makes its way off a production line. Nobody can build a perfect product all the time.

Just my 2 Cents.


BRETT: I think its time for a new thread.

 

adam, you have been in business for over 13 years.. your explanation here is that you havn't set any sort of event up because of the "smack talk".. this "smack" has only started in the last few years.. or are you saying that you've had very unhappy customers for all the years you have been open? unhappy enough to make you not want to contribute to the local community?

Are you also saying that you are not actively participating in the community because your customers are telling you it would be a bad idea?

strange...

Anyways, 84stock: Gary, I am actually quite surprised to hear you speak about your s/c decision that way.. To be honest with you, perhaps one of the reasons we got such a bad taste in our mouth about it (and gave you such a hard time about it) was because of the constant self promotion and hype by another member of the fourm about it.. a s/c 1st gen is a cool idea, but one had to be realistic about it's expectations.. when someone else constantly hyped it up and proclaimed it to be the best thing since sliced bread, and yet in the end it didn't deliver as it was hyped up to be, it gave an opportunity for an "I told you so" situation... It's unfortunate that even though you were not the one doing all the self promotion and boasting, you were still the owner of the car and endup up encurring some of the backlash...
Anyways, you are correct, we are all enthusiasts.. we may not all see eye to eye, we may not all be the best of friends, but we do share a common interest in the same thing.. perhaps we can all try and deal with each other as individual people and not so much as people who have a certain affiliation with one side or another..

 

Just to clairify the S/C Issue once and for all chris. This aint a stabbing attack. I admit I hyped it up alot, and never admitted to its failing. Not realizing how different Gary's setup was from the two setups that were the ones that impressed me. Mainly Code Blue's and Neils setup. A 4-Port 13B and a 12A are much different than Gary's 13B 6-Port setup. My expectations were much higher because of the hype that camden put into me about their 2nd Gen chargers. I now see the ability of the setup and I now know what its capable across all 3 engine configurations.

 

adam, thank god you are not my employer.... but thanks for the post.. it always gives me a laugh to watch you run out of clever things to say and grasp at thigns to say to try and get a rise out of me ...

By the way adam.. show me proof of any local FC making over 400rwhp with a motor you have built and a standalone that YOU have personally tuned and still running, and I will make a public appology about your abilities ...
PS: I made the dyno run on the same tune to prove that your motor sucked.. I have since retuned to better suit the motor and making more power.. oh one other thing adam.. I can show you the dyno plot of your motor vs mine with mine making over 50hp 50ftlbs torque by 3000rpm over yours.. i really doubt that the ports are too big ... I'll make the same offer I made last year with you.. if you'd like to sit down and discuss everything, let me know... we can hop over to the tim hortons near you and have a coffee...

 

That's fair enough...
thanks

 

I'll say it again blah blah blah. I don't need to explain it Adam, it's fairly obvious when the motor's apart. Plus I don't give a **** if you believe me or not. Don't care if anyone does for that matter. Go ahead post up the difference, inform us all of your great rotary knowledge (or lack of it) doesnt change the fact you used the wrong one. Oh and just a tip time to lay off the impact gun, I suggest picking up a decent calibrated torque wrench, oh and some feeler gauges might be nice too. Oh and while we're at it might want to "eye ball" the 3mm groove your milling, it'd be a HELL of alot better than whatever monkey you have doing it now.

Keep digging your hole, I'm enjoying this.

 

Keep diggin Adam, Chris will burry you soon enough.

The answer: All of them

The question: How many of Adams posts are defending his shitty craftsmanship or questionable shop ethics.

Adam getting owned always fun.

 

Now theres the Chris I know. You came down to reality. I am glad to see it. This type of analogy is the same way my attitude about attending or holding any meets. Civil people...
I would entertain meets, door prises, sponsorship, attendance driving etc. Uncivil people, two sides, smack talk....= none of the above. Chris, you can go on about your car/ engine but the point we agreed on was I did NOT build it for your nor your application. It was also used when you modified it....and most of all....you never paid me for that engine. And if you dispised anything I ever worked on....youd have stayed away from it. And if you bought it with the beleif that the engine build was going to let you down...you'd have no false expectations about it blowing after you ran 380HP through it. You have your car working now the way you want and I have over 600 engines working for my customers. I also have guys making alot more power than you with my builds....ones i have tuned as well. So who cares in the end. The drive idea / meets never crossed our thoughts until other clubs started doing it so....no....not 13 yrs. Just scince the smack started on this forum basically.
I gotta go Chris....been a slice!

 

PS Chris, Gary asked me to order his charger and was going to do it anyway. He asked dave Atkins all the specs incl expected HP. I only ordered it to help him and installed it because he wanted us to. I like Gary, he is civil and has hopes that he can do things to his car that dont scream BIG numbers but suit his desires. Maybe I am wrong about his end goal. None the less. I did not convince him to do the configuration he asked for....I supported it because he wanted a charger with a carb. How the F... am I at fault for that?

 

TD07....Not feeling too burried! Your answer to the question about the shaft was "all of them"? You did not answer the real question. How do you identify a 2nd gen shaft (one sentence HINT (6 words) Do you want me to narrow it down more. OR Maybe I am not defending shitty craftmanship....rather...defending accusations by you about the shaft issue as it is porving that you too (like Greg) are just a **** disturber. You said at least twice you have seen 2 third gen engines I built with second gen shafts but you DONT know how to idenitfy do you? Therefore, I am defending your BS comments and setting the record straight. Feeling silly??? You dont know cause you dont know!!

BTW regtister date June 06. How do you have so much experience with my engines and all that has gone on this forum if you are a newcomer. Or are you someone else???

 

you are confused adam..
When it came to Gary's car, I never had any opinions about it being installed by you or your shop.. and I never used his situation as an example in any one of our disagreements on here...
Any problems I had about Gary's car focused on the unrealistic expectations that were being thrown out everywhere at the time..

 

Hey TD07...I got a great idea....lets have a build off. Nuetral shop. Cleanliness, time,Porting and proper choices of parts all count. We'll do it side by side no manuals or writing down specs. Just everything that you have memorized upstairs. And BTW bring your own tools....I'll be sure to bring my Snapon and Mac torque wrenches. You can bring your feeler guages and I will bring my digital dial indicator. The faster the time, the more credits for new parts. This way you cant spend 10 hours on porting to be as good as mine. The engines will be compression tested and run up to 20 LBS boost in the same car. Of course there will be a time limit just like there is when a shop has to finish in a certain amount of time. We'll see which one runs better. I'll kick your f...ing *** and I'll put $10,000 on it right now! What will you wager?

 

The new thread is up and running. Those wishing to continue with the slug-fest stay here. Those with posts concerning the meet please post on the new thread titled Calgary Meet in Black Diamond June 25th.

 

Adam is right about my engine, I decided on the charger and contracted him to do it. He has only installed one other charger to date that I know of and that was on Neils car. Neils car survived 5 years of heavy abuse, pounded it on regular rather than running premium and had no idea how to do any of his own tuning. I had a small budget for the engine after blowing mine up ( admittedly going against Adams advice on how hard to run it on a used engine ) and I feel I got my moneys worth. Adam never provided any guesses on performance expectations, my expectations came from Code Blues reports (211 rwhp for a bolt on with what I hoped was a strong enough engine) and Alaks observations of Niels car. I do like the charger, I like how it drives. I like to taunt Anthony into a race since he evaded me all last year, but you have to know this is a friendly taunt, not a cowardly online flame. We run into each other on many saturdays and he is an all right guy. Should he be able to beat me, yes, do I want to see if he can, yes as well. There is a lot to say about tuning no matter who builds the engine (at 42, I went through many muscle cars when I had a life before the wife and had the big boy toys before having to provide for 3 boys). It's important to mention I never had Adam do any tuning other than set the timing when it left his shop. He is much more comofrtable with a laptop and standalone and that is all greek to me. I have tried 4 different carbs, first one I bought from Conroy (mistake! likely contributed to the early demise of my engine, Adam clearly disapproved of it but I pushed with confidence), second was an Edelbrock 650, very nice smooth reliable carb. When we did the dyno last year my power curve started to drop after 6500 where Code Blues kept climbing. My thoughts were too restrictive exhaust (replaced) and too small of a carb. So i tried a huge Holley (free effort, mechanic friend had it, all I had to do was rebuild it). Proved bigger isn't better (but I knew that, just wanted to prove it to others and eliminate possibilities). I now run a 650 Mighty Demon Supercharger carb, definitely the right carb for the job. I have since added wather/meth (suggested last year by an old friend Del and Max as well) with success and have been able to add approx 10 degrees timing with no detonation, feels quicker but the dyno will have to tell. Carb is getting dialed in better too with the MSD coming soon as well. I have another distributor with some intentions of modifying the advance curve, unfortunately not as easy and a GM hei equivalent (I know, all you standalone guys wills ay come into the 21st century). As for the possibility of nitrous (TD07's comments were impolite), this is a last ditch effort to push the envelope but will not likely materialize since the water/meth is producing some results. I enjoy the car, with all the money spent if I was to start over I simply have just kept the car a nice preserved original and pursue something along the lines of a Skyline to go fast (yeah I know, ya won't like that one)...............in closing, like Chris, Adam and Max, I don't hide behind a screen name, ya'all know who I am. Gary