My FD is going to be featured on TUNED
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From: Charlottesville VA 22901
Plenty of fast C5s and C6s circling tracks all over america
The car runs with Vettes at a similar level of prep with guys of similar skill. By lap times I end up getting placed in the top half of the faster group among very high end sports cars, Ferraris, 911 GT3s, GTRs, Vettes, Vipers, and well sorted other cars like Subarus, Evos, M3s etc. The car is not a slouch and all things considered it holds it's own.
I run no aero, and 255 NT01s all around. Car makes 400 WHP and is probably 2650#.
Yes there are Vettes and other cars that are much faster. Yes there are also drivers better than me.
My best is 1:33.2 at Willow Springs. I think the car has 1:31s in it as it sits with some more practice, and a couple setup changes. High 1:20s with aero and bigger tires for sure.
This is 1:34.2 with a passenger.
I run no aero, and 255 NT01s all around. Car makes 400 WHP and is probably 2650#.
Yes there are Vettes and other cars that are much faster. Yes there are also drivers better than me.
My best is 1:33.2 at Willow Springs. I think the car has 1:31s in it as it sits with some more practice, and a couple setup changes. High 1:20s with aero and bigger tires for sure.
This is 1:34.2 with a passenger.
Last edited by LargeOrangeFont; Mar 27, 2015 at 03:53 PM.
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Not trying to be a dick but you are running with miatas 
Willow Springs International Raceway
Class No. Name Vehicle Time Date
TTU 4 Bart Carter 05 Radical SR8 1:20.27 5/25/08
TT1 20 Donn Vickrey 06 Porsche GT3 Cup 1:24.901 3/1/15
TT2 32 Team Cashin In 01 Corvette Z06 1:27.71 5/22/10
TT3 80 Steve Nagel 99 BMW M3 1:29.279 2/28/15
TTB 717 David Jodoin 99 BMW M3 1:32.77 5/23/10
TTC 49 Emilio Cervantes 04 Mazda Miata 1:32.72 5/26/12
TTD 777 Shawn Dolan 01 Pontiac Firebird 1:35.20 7/12/08
TTE 93 Emilio Cervantes 01 Mazda Miata 1:35.45 5/5/13
TTF 321 Dan Gardner 91 Nissan NX2000 1:41.21 5/7/06
Willow Springs International Raceway
Class No. Name Vehicle Time Date
TTU 4 Bart Carter 05 Radical SR8 1:20.27 5/25/08
TT1 20 Donn Vickrey 06 Porsche GT3 Cup 1:24.901 3/1/15
TT2 32 Team Cashin In 01 Corvette Z06 1:27.71 5/22/10
TT3 80 Steve Nagel 99 BMW M3 1:29.279 2/28/15
TTB 717 David Jodoin 99 BMW M3 1:32.77 5/23/10
TTC 49 Emilio Cervantes 04 Mazda Miata 1:32.72 5/26/12
TTD 777 Shawn Dolan 01 Pontiac Firebird 1:35.20 7/12/08
TTE 93 Emilio Cervantes 01 Mazda Miata 1:35.45 5/5/13
TTF 321 Dan Gardner 91 Nissan NX2000 1:41.21 5/7/06
Not trying to be a dick but you are running with miatas
Willow Springs International Raceway
Class No. Name Vehicle Time Date
TTU 4 Bart Carter 05 Radical SR8 1:20.27 5/25/08
TT1 20 Donn Vickrey 06 Porsche GT3 Cup 1:24.901 3/1/15
TT2 32 Team Cashin In 01 Corvette Z06 1:27.71 5/22/10
TT3 80 Steve Nagel 99 BMW M3 1:29.279 2/28/15
TTB 717 David Jodoin 99 BMW M3 1:32.77 5/23/10
TTC 49 Emilio Cervantes 04 Mazda Miata 1:32.72 5/26/12
TTD 777 Shawn Dolan 01 Pontiac Firebird 1:35.20 7/12/08
TTE 93 Emilio Cervantes 01 Mazda Miata 1:35.45 5/5/13
TTF 321 Dan Gardner 91 Nissan NX2000 1:41.21 5/7/06
Willow Springs International Raceway
Class No. Name Vehicle Time Date
TTU 4 Bart Carter 05 Radical SR8 1:20.27 5/25/08
TT1 20 Donn Vickrey 06 Porsche GT3 Cup 1:24.901 3/1/15
TT2 32 Team Cashin In 01 Corvette Z06 1:27.71 5/22/10
TT3 80 Steve Nagel 99 BMW M3 1:29.279 2/28/15
TTB 717 David Jodoin 99 BMW M3 1:32.77 5/23/10
TTC 49 Emilio Cervantes 04 Mazda Miata 1:32.72 5/26/12
TTD 777 Shawn Dolan 01 Pontiac Firebird 1:35.20 7/12/08
TTE 93 Emilio Cervantes 01 Mazda Miata 1:35.45 5/5/13
TTF 321 Dan Gardner 91 Nissan NX2000 1:41.21 5/7/06
Last edited by LargeOrangeFont; Mar 27, 2015 at 03:59 PM.
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One thing I'd consider is keeping your hands low on the steering wheel which will enable you to react a lot faster and increase your senses/feel for what the front tires are doing.
With hands high and arms extended you are activating your larger muscles (shoulder) which react slow and lack finesse. If you wanted to know the weight some something how would you hold it? That's how you should hold the steering wheel. Or arms bent and hands low/palms up.
Just an observation.
The car looks like a blast to drive
With hands high and arms extended you are activating your larger muscles (shoulder) which react slow and lack finesse. If you wanted to know the weight some something how would you hold it? That's how you should hold the steering wheel. Or arms bent and hands low/palms up.
Just an observation.
The car looks like a blast to drive
One thing I'd consider is keeping your hands low on the steering wheel which will enable you to react a lot faster and increase your senses/feel for what the front tires are doing.
With hands high and arms extended you are activating your larger muscles (shoulder) which react slow and lack finesse. If you wanted to know the weight some something how would you hold it? That's how you should hold the steering wheel. Or arms bent and hands low/palms up.
Just an observation.
The car looks like a blast to drive
With hands high and arms extended you are activating your larger muscles (shoulder) which react slow and lack finesse. If you wanted to know the weight some something how would you hold it? That's how you should hold the steering wheel. Or arms bent and hands low/palms up.
Just an observation.
The car looks like a blast to drive
The next track car I build will probably be an RX8 with an LS swap.
Last edited by LargeOrangeFont; Mar 27, 2015 at 04:10 PM.
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If you want to talk about your setup PM me. I might be able to share some insight at least.
Getting the handling in the ball park is pretty easy, but getting the last lbit out of it has been trial and error.
Getting the handling in the ball park is pretty easy, but getting the last lbit out of it has been trial and error.
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LOL, that chip on your shoulder must be hard to carry. As I said I rode in ONE and wasn't impressed. I'm sure your car would knock my socks off.
TYPICAL v8 power/torque hits hard doesn't last long and falls fast on the top side, shift and it starts over again. I've ridden in a LOT of cars over the last 15 years while instructing at various race tracks and although I may be an idiot my *** is a pretty good judge of how power is delivered.
TYPICAL v8 power/torque hits hard doesn't last long and falls fast on the top side, shift and it starts over again. I've ridden in a LOT of cars over the last 15 years while instructing at various race tracks and although I may be an idiot my *** is a pretty good judge of how power is delivered.
You are Sooo smart!!!
Have you ever had a v8 rx7??
I have had Na rotary, boosted rotary, Na v8 and big *** turbo v8. But I don't know the differences.
Come drive mine, bet you lift before it "starts falling on the topside"
Last edited by zbrown; Mar 27, 2015 at 06:02 PM.
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I just get off on the guys that think you can't take two rx7 chassis, set one up to compliment the rotary, set the other to compliment the LS and it is impossible to get similar track performance. Its down right silly.
I have never bagged on the rotary, show me where I have? Just comment on the stupid v8 statements from guys that dont have a clue
They all think ohh my tiny little motor, they never even think about the supporting systems for the power adder. Yeah just forget about that 30lb FMIC hanging way out there and the like.
The LS is a very small and self contained system, and more efficient thermally than the rotary counterpart. But that makes no difference in track setup either
I have never said the v8 is better than the rotary. If I have please quote it
I have never bagged on the rotary, show me where I have? Just comment on the stupid v8 statements from guys that dont have a clue
They all think ohh my tiny little motor, they never even think about the supporting systems for the power adder. Yeah just forget about that 30lb FMIC hanging way out there and the like.
The LS is a very small and self contained system, and more efficient thermally than the rotary counterpart. But that makes no difference in track setup either
I have never said the v8 is better than the rotary. If I have please quote it
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I saw your dyno and clearly your car isn't falling flat and has a nice power band
Congrats on owning a great car and running a fantastic drag time and I sincerely mean that
Last edited by Fritz Flynn; Mar 27, 2015 at 06:57 PM.
Come on now???? The rotary engine is what the Rx vehicles are about and why they exist. You may just love the chassis but there are thousands of us you who love the vehicle as a whole and the little engine that only Mazda could make work. I may be a nutswinger myself but, I'm repsectfull enough not to go to the ls1 forum and tell them they are nutswingers for loving their V8's. Show some respect because you would have never had your Rx7 if it weren't for the rotary engine.
Last edited by t-von; Mar 27, 2015 at 10:25 PM.
Why bother? Not one of use here has any scientific data to back anything up. The only thing we could do this is to take a bone stock fd with factory suspension and an Ls1 swap fd with factory suspension and give both cars to Car @ Driver and let them put their equipment on it and do some handling test to see the differences in handling. That will never happen though!
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Show respect lol. Is this rx7 club or rotary club?
A nutswinger isnt a rotary enthusiast, it is the rotary guys who blab this and that about the v8 setups without having a damn clue about them first hand
Can I talk about a rotary. Yup sure can, I had a rew setup with a gt42 and standalone, I built everything on that, the intake, oil pan, turbo system, ect
For me I love HP, it was smart $$$ wise to swap to a v8. When I can run 800-1000+ HP on alot of stock components for 5 years and never touch a thing, that is nice
A nutswinger isnt a rotary enthusiast, it is the rotary guys who blab this and that about the v8 setups without having a damn clue about them first hand
Can I talk about a rotary. Yup sure can, I had a rew setup with a gt42 and standalone, I built everything on that, the intake, oil pan, turbo system, ect
For me I love HP, it was smart $$$ wise to swap to a v8. When I can run 800-1000+ HP on alot of stock components for 5 years and never touch a thing, that is nice
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Come on now???? The rotary engine is what the Rx vehicles are about and why they exist. You may just love the chassis but there are thousands of us you who love the vehicle as a whole and the little engine that only Mazda could make work. I may be a nutswinger myself but, I'm repsectfull enough not to go to the ls1 forum and tell them they are nutswingers for loving their V8's. Show some respect because you would have never had you Rx7 if it weren't for the rotary engine.
I'm pretty sure I'd prefer a monster v8 over the TT ported rotary
I've always said the LSX/big block is the better overall engine but if I wanted one I'd drive a corvette or a viper.
The rotary is a big part of what I love about the FD the same way it's the high revving flat six that makes the GT3 cool.
I'm sure if I had a viper I'd fall in love with the v10.
Bottomline is I guess I don't get engine swaps but don't hate I was simply expressing my thoughts on a tt ported rotary vs a bone stock LS1.
Last edited by Fritz Flynn; Mar 27, 2015 at 11:00 PM.
Did this dude say the Rotary isn't better in any way than the piston engine? How about on a track? He even admitted it handles better Apparently that's "good enough for some people" Driving around country roads
SMH
SMH
Last edited by RosatiFD; Mar 28, 2015 at 01:11 AM.
