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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 01:21 AM
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That low miles MBM is off the charts. Clean car. Goodfellas's's's ultra low miler is looking pretty cheeky now.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Montego
THE.NILE is not just a river in Egypt.

Oh don't take off your panties just yet. Aristo is a base owner himself and he has long been in your camp, nothing new here. It just so happens that he is one of the ones I was thinking of when I mentioned that there are those that believe the chassis is stiffer and can feel 0.6% of weight difference with fixed roofed FDs.
Just for the record, I don't argue the advantages of non-sunroof cars because I own one, I own one because I have felt the difference with them.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Aristo
Just for the record, I don't argue the advantages of non-sunroof cars because I own one, I own one because I have felt the difference with them.
LOL

Lets keep it simple. Choosy forum members choose the hard top, especially us grumpy old men.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Narfle
That low miles MBM is off the charts. Clean car. Goodfellas's's's ultra low miler is looking pretty cheeky now.
YEP

This could easily be the 1st one on BAT selling for over 50k.

People posting why check compression on a 4k mile car......they just don't understand
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 08:53 AM
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Im guessing $56k.

This!!!!...... could happen folks
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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It wouldn't surprise me if you're also a flat earther or are you an antivax guy?
)
Haha, always fun watching montego crack and try to take personal shots. Its a very "yellow car guy" thing to do.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 10:40 AM
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Based on early bidding, that silly-low mileage MB Touring on BaT looks like it might be the new record setter.

I was joking about how valuable the GLASS sunroof would be, but maybe I was right all along!

Looks like the valuation order goes: awful, heavy, gross metal sunroof / smooth-roof (I've decided that's the new term for no sunroof) / and then WAAAAY above those is the rare, beautiful and desirable GLASS sunroof.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
Yes. Nothing like resorting to derogatory comments.

I'm still just fine haha. I find it odd that you think you hurt peoples' feelings. This is a car forum. I do not care what you think. You have proved nothing. You've pasted links, and the only research you've done yourself is on an insignificant amount of data. It's all opinion and I'm sticking with mine unless you magically show sales of 20 of each color within a year that actually supports your opinion. Funny how you keep ignoring the FACT that you do not have enough data to be conclusive. I feel like I'm talking to Fox News or Trump haha.
Two guys who have sold more FDs then anyone else in the US market are both saying hardtops are in higher demand. I'm sure Fritz gets a ton of inquiries like I do even when I don't have a car listed. People want R models and Base Models over tourings/peps and they will gladly pay the difference. As I've gotten older I personally prefer the sunroof now. However, my personal preference doesn't change the facts. Some fail to understand that.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jsesq
smooth-roof (I've decided that's the new term for no sunroof)
*Mazda called it an "Aero-Wave" roof, supposedly..
(I suppose that still applies to all incl. the sunroof model tho..)
Slick top sounds like the best slang term, imo

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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Aristo
Just for the record, I don't argue the advantages of non-sunroof cars because I own one, I own one because I have felt the difference with them.
Fair enough

Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
I'm still just fine haha. I find it odd that you think you hurt peoples' feelings.
I guess you can't read. Here I'll post it again for you:

Originally Posted by Montego
Riiight....Then why did you make comments directed at me that had nothing to do with the discussion? If you weren't butt hurt you wouldn't have done that. You can deny it all you want, it doesn't matter whether you admit or not it's all up there.
So yeah... If you weren't taking shots that had nothing to do with the subject then I wouldn't be saying that. Got it now?

Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
Funny how you keep ignoring the FACT that you do not have enough data to be conclusive.
*cough* *cough* Haggerty

Originally Posted by djseven
Haha, always fun watching montego crack and try to take personal shots. Its a very "yellow car guy" thing to do.
I agree! But you know what's even better? A guy who is still desperately trying to engage in an e-fight one week after the fact.

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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 11:43 AM
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This is not an "e-fight". This is montego whining constantly and thinking he's owning everyone over a sunroof.

Yellow car ego for sure.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
This is not an "e-fight". This is montego whining constantly and thinking he's owning everyone over a sunroof.

Yellow car ego for sure.
Wow, my car is CYM. So glad I'm not in your category . In the words of the late great Rodney King..... "C'mon man.... can't we all just get along?"

Folks... it's GROUP HUG time...
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 12:41 PM
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I'm a bit foggy on who won the pissing contest this time. It was neck and neck. I'm in my pacifist phase, so I had to sit this one out. Good times.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 04:18 PM
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I obviously won. Haha haha

But it's ok. I don't need a trophy. Montego can have it.

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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
I obviously won. Haha haha
Of course you did. I especially enjoyed the part where you backed up your claims with some facts. Oh wait that was me... You did not such thing
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 08:51 PM
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wow stupid low miles MB touring is already at $49,750. absolutely wild, this one might reach 60k.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 7sins
wow stupid low miles MB touring is already at $49,750. absolutely wild, this one might reach 60k.
6 days to go. IMO these guys are being extremely optimistic but crazier things have happened:

This Low-Mileage 1994 Mazda RX-7 Is On Track To Sell For Over $100k

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Old Apr 20, 2019 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 7sins
wow stupid low miles MB touring is already at $49,750. absolutely wild, this one might reach 60k.
Now 50k. Looks like we have our 1st official 50k plus FD on BAT. This will likely make a pretty big splash in current price trends.

Will the final price be 50k.......60k.........70k........etc.... There comes a point in the collector world where value means nothing and that's the direction that low mileage FDs are headed which means I probably won't buy another low mileage one. In the article they mention a Supra that sold for 120k recently, now relisted at 500k, crazy world. That's a fat stack for a pretty basic GT sports car. Hard to fathom an FD could ever sell for 100k much less 500k. The collector world is a trip for sure.

I'd take the 95 PEP MB with 41k miles at 35k (and it sold for 26,500) vs this car at 50k. Best buy I've seen so far was the 94 VR base model with 9k miles that didn't make reserve (bid to 47250) but was later sold for approx 50k in the private market last year.
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Old Apr 20, 2019 | 09:14 AM
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I never would have thought a Montego Blue FD would be the first to crack the $50,000 barrier on BaT. Very nice time capsule. It really shows how the market for these is going up. We've seen several equally nice low mileage black and silver and red FD's go through in the past year and none broke through. Someone said it could hit $60,000. That's actually possible.
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Old Apr 20, 2019 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
I never would have thought a Montego Blue FD would be the first to crack the $50,000 barrier on BaT. Very nice time capsule. It really shows how the market for these is going up. We've seen several equally nice low mileage black and silver and red FD's go through in the past year and none broke through. Someone said it could hit $60,000. That's actually possible.

Yep the ssm/black touring was very nice but it was a 93 and had 12k miles vs 4k. Examples like this could end up with many issues because of dirty fuel tanks. Typically when this car sits for even 6 years the fuel tank is a mess (this one sat for 12 years). You should replace the tank not drain it LOL.

Values are clearly climbing. Based on this IF we see an R2 of any color with 5k miles or less it's going for BIG money.
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
I'd take the 95 PEP MB with 41k miles at 35k (and it sold for 26,500) vs this car at 50k. Best buy I've seen so far was the 94 VR base model with 9k miles that didn't make reserve (bid to 47250) but was later sold for approx 50k in the private market last year.
I got super lucky with the 95 PEP MB. Didn't think it would go for that price!
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by djseven
Two guys who have sold more FDs then anyone else in the US market are both saying hardtops are in higher demand. I'm sure Fritz gets a ton of inquiries like I do even when I don't have a car listed. People want R models and Base Models over tourings/peps and they will gladly pay the difference. As I've gotten older I personally prefer the sunroof now. However, my personal preference doesn't change the facts. Some fail to understand that.
This is no different than the interior color, model, year, exterior color etc...debate. Time will tell the naysayers what we already know

YEP, more people prefer the sunroof and that's been my experience so far however as time moves along I do think more people will gravitate toward the hard top. This sounds like I'm saying sunroof cars are worth more.........NOPE........ because there are not many hardtops available or the demand outweighs the supply and those that want a hardtop are desperate for one because they've been searching for months. Meanwhile there's a nice sunroof FD for sale somewhere each week. Supply and demand rules even in tiny markets like this but it will take years to convince Montego because so few will be sold, scratch that I don't think he'll ever be convinced.



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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mcw0ng
I got super lucky with the 95 PEP MB. Didn't think it would go for that price!
Yep

Great buy in this rapidly appreciating collector market.

You could relist it tomorrow and get 30k plus.
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 07:27 PM
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In my opinion, and no one really asked me, this car on BAT goes for 60-70K if it doesnt then we are not far from these prices. I didnt buy my car for an investment but looking at whats happening with values i see this as a good thing and a bad thing. The bad part of whats happening means people really wont drive their cars as much or at all as a result of this.
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2-Rotor
In my opinion, and no one really asked me, this car on BAT goes for 60-70K if it doesnt then we are not far from these prices. I didnt buy my car for an investment but looking at whats happening with values i see this as a good thing and a bad thing. The bad part of whats happening means people really wont drive their cars as much or at all as a result of this.
Yep

It makes driving low mileage FDs very expensive which means more of them will sit or be sold to collectors to permanently sit.

I'll be surprised if it sells for more than 60 but regardless the FD has arrived and you'll see higher prices going forward on all of them. There's currently one listed for 33k with over 100k miles and in a year or two that could be the norm rather than the exception.
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