Haha. Yeah I have a 38 Pontiac deluxe 6 sedan. It's gigantic. And you can't see clearance around the front fenders. And good luck backing that thing up haha.

 

'94 just posted on BaT. Let's just say it's a little rough, but in today's market might make a good project for someone if it goes cheap enough. Rust is a concern though...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-mazda-rx-7-58/

 

I hear that! My first car was a 66 GTO, so I learned about "older" cars before getting interested in more modern stuff like my GN, Miata, Rx-7s, etc.

 

Still a strong market out there.

$37k for a 98k-mile FD on BaT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-159/

And still no love for automatics.

A 48k-mile automatic failed to meet its $30k reserve last week: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-160/

A > $30k reserve was fairly optimistic given that recent low-mile automatics have sold in the mid-20s.

(And a 4.7k-mile E46 M3 hit $91k, which I think may be a record for a non-CSL car.)

 

+1

I'd been hoping to see a higher mileage example in fair/good/average condition pop up on BaT. Strong indicator of generally elevated values on the FD.

 

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/...uggest_history

 

Agreed. Especially with that car having been entirely repainted.

 

This will be interesting LOL

Excellent example of a really poor condition FD so it will likely sell for less than 20k but who knows. CRAZY MARKET!

 

3rd FD in a row listed on BAT without a battery tie down. I suspect 1/2 the FDs in the US are barely driven and are just sitting disasters, or going to remain resting or become major projects for the new owners

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...XcpSr6jLcWRxlg

 

At risk of sounding pessimistic, I feel like this has been the established axiom for at least 15 years..

 

I have noticed this as well, BaT presumably gets the best FDs in the country, and even those are not in the best shape. The supply of true original FDs with no stories or issues that have been well-kept is almost non-existent. I should know as I was looking for just such a car for nearly two years before finding one.

Talking about values, there is a real possibility that values will decline if there aren't enough nice condition cars left to support an active market. The car will become like 240SXs which are still cheap not because they are bad cars, but because there is simply no market for them since there are none left. There will be a tipping point at which it is so hard to find a nice car that the people who can afford one won't even try.

 

You could be right, but more likely I think they'll plateau. No offense but the 240sx is a bad example. There was that bone stock 240sx that sold for 32k a year or two ago, and that skyrocketed 240 prices (past the already drift tax price) and they're still holding now. Just glancing at FB marketplace the prices are insane compared to where they were a decade ago. Hell even the stock motors that people would literally give away are going for several hundred dollars.

But as a whole these 90s Japanese sports cars will always be appreciated and enjoyed and even if Mazda for some reason completely stop supporting them I think their are enough enthusiasts that would keep them alive.

 

is the rise in FC3S prices a shadow effect of the FD prices?

How would the FC3S compare with the 240SX, as far as the projected value curve.

Are FC defeating the perception, in at least one main steam car mag, that they will never be more than just "used cars"?

 

Someone needs to start a classifieds site that specializes in FDs, similar to that one for MKIV Supras years ago, I think it was called mkivtrader.com? That way there would be a central location for top examples.

 

Random thoughts:

I've never heard anyone compare the FD to any Nissan short of a GTR..... 240sx? In a word, hell no

I suppose the owner thought that the battery terminal posts would hold it in place during lukewarm cornering.

Oh, and that shift **** looks like it was abused for every one of the 107,000 miles.

 

Back in 2010, I was the proud owner on a 1999 Nissan Silvia S15 Spec S. Not even a month later, wrecked it. About 3 months later I bought a 2000 Nissan Silvia S15 Spec R. Sold it after 8 months. Those cars drove and handled like a warm bologna sandwich. The only reason I ever considered them remotely fun to drive was because the damn thing would lose grip halfway through the corner...was only fun for a little while until about 5,000 near death experiences and it frustrated the hell out of my friend group. To compare the FD to any S-chassis is like the difference between a warm glass of milk and swamp water on an empty stomach. I've grown to absolutely despise those cars. Cannot believe how expensive they've become; but if that's what it takes so I won't see them everywhere...I'll take it.

 

in April, I t-boned, at about 1 mph, an S15. We were entering a corner on a two lane road, he just ahead of me on the outside lane, when he suddenly just turned in front of me. Now I have an understanding on how that might have happened.

 

That will only drive prices way up for original cars. Plenty of other cars were built in super limited numbers, limited availability does nothing but increase the price. If 10% of the cars are unmodified, with a 50% attrition rate, that's still ~3,500 cars left. To put that into perspective, that's 5x and many cars as all the S54 Z3 coupes built. About 3x as many as all the F40s. Out of ~12,000 R34 GTRs built how many stock ones are left?

I currently have no use for a stock unmolested FD, and I wouldn't want to pay a premium for one because it doesn't align with my goals. I think the buyers market for a collector grade FD is smaller than the buyers market for a driver, but the pockets are undoubtedly deeper.

I thought the whole reason to own a bubble era "gentlemen's agreement" car was the tuning potential?

 

I also think it's time for a new thread. $25k is now achieved by almost any running FD. $45k seems to be the harder barrier

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-gene.../#post12496398

 

How to value your FD and why today it's difficult to sell for 25k or more

Because we love our FD, it would be difficult to sell at $25,000 or $45,000. Therefore the title is still relevant.

 

the FC is tough because it came in more flavors, but the S5 T2 is much more rare (now) than the FD, BaT has sold 2 of them.
the SA/FB prices are easier, lots of those get sold, and average cars are 10k, but nice ones are hitting, well 25k+

 

YEP, i think there were around 13.8k FDs made for the US market and even 15 years ago probably half of those were wrecked, modded, left to rot etc...

Values will continue to climb because there a very few good ones left.

YEP, BAT has consistently listed the best FDs over the last several years but again recently whats been on their site are mostly project type cars.

Again this thread should just be renamed: FD3s Cars For Sale Thread.

 

lol

 

I did it

 

How will I ever find this thread again