Me? Stock car = big negative. I'm basically only into genuine jdm tuner brands and stock / road going FD's generally 'do-it' for me anymore unless they're exceptionally special. Like that FEED Afflux v5 that recently sold for peanuts imo (which blew my f'ing mind btw!). If it were lhd, you'd be talking to the new owner. Now THAT is a vehicle WORTH owning. Super special, dare I say pedigree.

I thought this was originally a discussion around the perceived merits (or not) of limited production vehicles such as the ITR, FD / Supra RZ, NSX-R, etc (where they received a ton of extra engineering, etc as opposed to more commonly sourced models) and their current respective monetary value(s) compared to 'regular' models in today's market.

But has since turned into the 'why can't I put the '99 bumper on my car' instead.

 

Haha. Yeah, I would have beat you to that feed car had it been LHD . Agree with you heavily on that being very special.

 

Who are you to say what people should and shouldn't do to their cars? You're playing a dangerous game when you use words like that. I understand why you feel the way you feel even though I disagree, but your word choices could be better.

 

A while back there was a thread where folk could post up their achieved sales price with quite a few data points.

I did a graph of that data and got an inverse bell curve.

Plotted against stated mileage, unmodified low Mile/Km cars achieved high prices, followed by higher mileage cars, and those with some modification, that showed a dip, but prices rose again for very high mileage cars with very extensive modifications.

I do not know how that curve would look applied to the last five years data.

But I suspect a shift even more in favor of unmodified low mileage examples, as the cars shift to being recognized as collectables.

 

That's the same curve as all cars

 

According to the Collins Canadian English Dictionary, "natural", when used as an adjective can mean "normal" or "unaffected". In this context a modified S6 can be referred to as unnatural (not natural), a statement of fact, and not necessarily a pejorative.

So my use of the term "unnatrual" was not necessarily unnatural.

Sorry for any miss-understanding my use of the term "unnatural" may have caused.

 

My well maintained, entirely original, unmodified, G6 seems to be on a curve heading precipitously down.

 

That's the one, yeap. Can we be an internet oddity, and disagree, but still respect one another and appreciate our differences in opinion, and that variety is the spice of life? ;-).

 

It was so good that Nissan copied it for the G35

 

I don't even think they bothered to copy it...they straight up planted a mole and STOLE them

 

Done! We'll be the first two!!

 

I disagree. It is called the Whaletail.

Dolphin Tail is the Re-A muffler.

Both look good. IMO.

Very natural.\

Aquatic, even.

 

FD guys always forget the Turbo Supras are much more rare. I’ve owned both and driven tons of both. I prefer the FD, but outside of the front aesthetics of the Supra it’s a phenomenal car that earned its reputation as the true king of the 90s japanese sports cars.

 

Unfortunately +1

 

Says it is Dolphin shaped, so I stand corrected. Still the Whaletail to me, nevermind.

Introduced on March 22, 1995, on the Type RZ and R-S.


Is Dolphin.

 

Add to this the various upgrades in brakes, turbos, etc that the USDM Supras have VS the cookie cutter (though awesome) FD trims that are now importable makes for a value add that stock FDs as a whole will never come close to.

 

Also. Take a stock twin turbo Supra with 6 speed almost unbreakable trans. Exhaust, intercooler, boost controller to 18psi, and fuel cut eliminator, stock ecu, and boom, 420-450whp without any effort or risk of blowing engine.

That is what made supras famous before the big single turbos and aftermarket ecu's came around. Stock fuel system, stock coils, stock ecu.

Don't get me wrong, I'll take an FD any day. But the ease of modification and increasing power significantly with little expense was amazing for the time.

 

This is very true.

Really chaps my *** that Mazda didn't do a good enough job on the FD's ECU. A small amount of over building and a LOT of engines could have been saved. If nothing else if it would have pulled back on timing if boost goes over 10psi or if they had fuel maps for more boost or SOMETHING this would have helped tremendously.

That's really where the FD got the bad reputation. Put on intake/exhaust/downpipe/muffler and you have a time bomb.

I think the Supra earned its reputation. It's also earned its value.

Dale

 

but its still ugly
#rimshot

 

In 1995, the F40 was making ~475hp at the crank, and the F355 was around 375, so those Supra numbers were very impressive at the time

 

This was posted elsewhere. Is it an S6 with an S8 wing (or mazdaspeed?), or the other way around?

In any event it looks fierce.



Meanwhile, Hotwheels is on point for 2021.

 

Anybody have an opinion on what I should do with a 93 SSM touring with ~35K miles. Should I sell it as a roller or put in with a new OEM engine, wiring harness, clutch, ect. Assuming it will need greater than $10K in parts/ labor to get it up and running.

It was earmarked for a 20B I have, but prices seem like its a good time to let it go....

 

I think that's a full blown MS aero on a 92, detail here.

What's missing? I would find someone who would love to put it back on the road, $10k is a low cost compare to what these things are going for with 3x the mileage. I would take it if I don't already have 2

 

I held on the tb, uim and lim and tranny. Almost everything else is gone.

Outside of the missing drivetrain it’s complete.

 

Are you looking to let it go, or are you looking to keep it?