I hear what you are saying for sure. It may be premature but at some point, the provenance may come into play. Time will tell... Gil was a pretty well known guy in many circles. That stripe was “his thing”. Personally I’ve always been a fan of yellow and black, from my Yamaha YZ days..

-Michael

 

I agree if it is not a collector car make it yours drive it and enjoy it. Brap on

 

Next level type FD

Extremely hard to value but worth a lot more than 25k if it's running tip top.

VERY NICE!!!!

 

Too many miles and that stripe but who knows. This market is way too hard to predict when it comes to the highly sought after FDs no matter the mileage or condition. That white base sold for a crazy price given it's mileage and condition.

 

Fritz,

As you are this thread starter, do you know what a count of hold out OEM CYM’s might be? I also recall the white ones were limited supply.

-Michael

 

How is this for a WAG

350 CYM to start.
1/2 burned or crashed = 175
1/2 of of 175 are molested = 87 87 OEM CYMs left.

I have owned three, one burn, one crash and one stock. IF my sampling is used

350 CYMs to start.
2/3 burned or crashed = 116
1/2 of 116 are molested = 58
58 OEM CYMs left.

Yes, no, maybe??

-Michael

 

Maybe. I'm not sure there's reason to think that CYMs have been destroyed or molested at a pace/rate higher than RX7s in aggregate. Your math leaves only 16.5% of the 350 CYMs left in OEM condition. So unless CYMs are treated differently, that effectively mean that of the 13,879 US spec RX7s (if the numbers I pulled are right) then only 2,290 are left in OEM condition. Again, maybe. It's certainly possible but that number does seem low to me.

additionally, and I have nothing to back this up, I think that CYMs would be treated with more care than other RX7s, considering how few there are and how common that knowledge is.

 

When the buyer argues with the price I can say Fritz said it was worth at least 25 big ones !

 

I agree which is why I posed the question to begin with. I’m not going to say my age but I was in high school when you could buy a pristine BOSS 302 for $5,500.00 bucks lol. I’ve seen, the RX2, 3s, first gen, second, 3rd etc.. I remember well, all the fanfare with the release of the 3rd gen. The CYMs were highly sought after. Not that anyone knew they would be in limited supply today, wasn’t even a thought. People bought them and beat the crap out of them. All the tuners, M2, Pettit, Peter Farrell, Rick’s Rotary etc...etc...etc were selling parts, tunes, kits all day everyday. Brian at M2 has a figure for how many ECUs he sold, I can’t recall at the moment but It was a huge fraction of ALL USA FDs in existence. Add in the rest of the worlds tuners and well... Again, I don’t know the exact number, I was hoping a more informed board member would know. It might not be 50 but I would probably bet it’s less than 100.

Thanks for weighing in!

-Michael

 

LOL

I doubt that will help but CHEERS!!!

 

Truly stock CYMs under 50k miles I would wager there are less than 30-40 in existence.

 

While we are talking about CYMs.

I'm in the process of getting a 4 rotor built and planning on putting it in my 55k mile CYM that is basically modded as OEM +.

How many of you think I should put it in my CYM or my wife's 94 PEP CW which has around 60k miles I think.

Picture of the cars for reference.

 

At the same time some people act as if cars can't be brought back to stock. I'm single turbo and i have kept every single thing I've taken off. Yep I even still have the pre-cat and original battery cover. With that said, the hardest thing to come back from is when body panels are hacked due to a widebody install and/or a headlight kit.

 

Can’t help with the car choice, but I am highly envious of your garage!!

 

Absolutely, no question. I think the fact you kept all your stock parts is a rarity. Perhaps as rare as a stock 3rd gen?? Just making a joke. Of course they can be put back to stock but what about the wear and tear on all other components due to increased power etc..? Perhaps Driven harder as well ?? I do agree, it could be done without question and bringing a modified body back, would be the more difficult task..

-Michael

 

That’s less than I had speculated. I was really thinking/hoping at even less than 100, someone on the board might be keeping track.

-Michael

 

👍 A four rotor in anything! 👍

 

Canadian r1 sold for 30,250 on bat.

interesting car popped up in classifieds. Low mileage MB

 

Being in Canada hurt the R1 sale, COVID made things complicated.

 

I was thinking it but I'm glad David said it before me. Your awesome CYM has some cool lineage and a bit of a story behind it (along with being stock and low miles) but the stripe makes me cringe. If that is vinyl, you should be in good shape. I get that it was the previous owner's thing, but these aren't muscle cars. It doesn't belong. My VR car had an identical black stripe when I bought it, and I spent many thousands in paint and body work to remove it. I have no proof to base it on, but I dare to say that stripe removes $5-10k in value from the car if it's not vinyl.

 

That is a common observation. It is paint, not vinyl. I and others, like the look of the stripe and I enjoy the story behind it. In a roundabout way, it’s a bit of my own story. I sell Stainless Steel process equipment to the wine industry. I first saw that car in Gil’s collection at Far Niente Winery in about 1995. Long story short, I said if that car ever came up for sale I would buy it. Upon Gil’s passing, I got a call saying it was mine if I wanted it. So, it’s mine. Most here might not know who Gil Nickel was, his Winery Far Niente or his historic racing history. I suspect a few do and might appreciate the story. I mean, a car with a story, gives you something to talk about lol

-Michael

 

Yep, I was thinking of bidding on it and calculated that it would be around around $37k after shipping, import duties, taxes, and the BaT fee. The seller also didn't seem to know much about cars and there is always a question mark buying a rotary sight-unseen. It had also been polished (probably compounded too) which is a small thing but I would prefer some swirls and an untouched clear coat rather than a fresh detail, at least if the car has original paint.

In the end I'm surprised it went for what it did, but also not, since FDs are rising.

 

Agreed and understood. I don't live in NorCal, nor do I know anything about wine, just my observations, however I'm a motorcycle and Yamaha fanatic, and am totally with you on the vintage Yamaha reference!

 

Yeah Man!!

 

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