I think the problem is the post counts not accumulating when in the Lounge. As soon as that rule was implemented, the whoring spilled over to other forums because people seem to want to beat their chest with the post count.
Is it possible to change the qualification for moderator, etc., so that post counts are not significant anymore? Maybe gauge people by how long they've been on the board or some other criteria. Why the heck should post count mean anything, anyway?

 

man teddy that *** in your sig rules.. love the thong hanging... always sexy... yeah the wheels looks nice too. wen you say your babie, do you mean the car o rhe ***? or both heheh j/p

 

Length of time as a member doesn't mean anything either. I could've registered back when the forum just started and just be a lurker for years. Does that qualify me for the position of moderator or well respected veteran? I don't think so.

To bring this thread back on topic, we need to actually come up w/ solutions to resolve our "forum problem". It is not just limited to the 3rd gen section. We need to stop speculating on when the problem first arose. We need actual suggestions from everyone as to what may work. (Wow...I used the word "Need" a lot).

 

Hmmm... never really thought of that...

Good point.

 

That is the biggest crock of ****. I use it as a form of advertising, but if I was not selling parts I would still try to keep the forum going. Why? because I love RX-7's. Probably the only way to keep a forum this large going is through getting alot of advertisors or having a business own it. Its very expensive to maintain and run.

Jason

 

I amazes me that people have an issue with someone like Jason placing a storefront at his OWN site the he STARTED and MAINTAINED.

We live in America. You have the right to prusue happines and there is NOTHING wrong with him making money as a result. People are awarded for a number of things. In jason's case it was starting up and maintaining this forum.

So what if he makes all this $$$$. it's his and a good chunk goes towards maintaining this forum.

Are you buying the servers and equipment to keep this forum running?

Are you paying for the bandwidth?

No & No

And don't bother jumping ship as a rant attack by hoping on the "other" forums. Like many firsts and originals the RX7 forum is and will be the biggest and best..........

 

first. how the hell did you do that quote?!

second. i personaly think the only reason you posted was to try to take a cheap shot at Jason. WTF?!
what has he done wrong to you? has never done anything to me. i know you have. but that is in the past. what is the problem with him running a business? i dont get it? totaly off topic. ya know what dave, dont even respond. lets try to keep this on track.

 

I think:

1) We need more policing of garbage threads.

2) We need to reinforce the 3rd gen forum as a non-lounge, and move garbage to the lounge, or eliminate it.

3) We need to continue to build up the archived threads. They are indeed an amazing source of information.

4) If we do indeed have a bunch of people just spending their time here jerking around, then ban them. Its not as if we are here for their pleasure. Nor are they paying to use this site. Culling chaff is needed from time to time.

5) No, this is not a democracy. It is an information site, and bandwidth costs money. I have seen a number of other forums where the hosts have asked for donations. There is no reason for us to put up with crap.

 

I was actually going to say that yesterday, but then I realized....this IS a public forum.

It's the internet. How legal issues like this are handled, I have no clue. Could someone ACTUALLY go to a lawyer, and say we are discriminating them in some sort of way?

Really, the ONLY way to enforce things IS by removing threads and clearly stating the reason as to why to ensure the least amount of whining as possible. But there will always be some Jerkoff who will have to bitch about something, and that jerkoff will seek the assistance of a hacker, and the forum will go into limbo again. It's there way of saying "nanee nanee boo boo"

It's america, and even worse, it's american kids that fok it all up and have no sense of common decency what so ever. Am I being blunt? Sure. Someone prove me wrong.

 

And to preempt protest from the ninnies, be sure to include changes in the forum guidelines, and have a post telling people to read them.

6) Delete threads using purposefully misleading titles.

 

"first. how the hell did you do that quote?!" -rxrotar2_7

Copy & paste my man..

second. i personaly think the only reason you posted was to try to take a cheap shot at Jason. WTF?!
what has he done wrong to you? has never done anything to me. i know you have. but that is in the past. what is the problem with him running a business? i dont get it? totaly off topic. ya know what dave, dont even respond. lets try to keep this on track. -rxrotary2_7


If I have misjudged Jasons motivations then I apologize but If I am wrong then why is it that you cannot make direct links to other RX7 parts vendors in here. I mean if your all about RX7's wouldn't you want everyone to have all options available to them?
Hey but like I said If I am mistaken then...

I was not trying to take pop shots at Jason. I don't even know the guy.
I was only trying to point out that if in fact the main reason for this forum is so he can sell more product then why in Gods green Earth would he get rid of the newbies? It wouldn't make much sense from a buisness stand point.

As far as me doing anything to you rxrotary. I didn't go spouting off **** about you behind your back first. I was only returning the favor. But yes that is in the past so why bring it back up........right?

Point still is that there should still be a way to keep the info here in the 3rd gen viable and usefull. I spent a better part of an hour earlier searching for people and reminding them that the search function is there for a reason.

So Jason once again if I misjudge you then I do apologise.
Also I am gonna take off on that note I am not looking to start a full out flame war.

Get the 3rd gen fixed. I'll look in on it later.. Good luck.

-Dave

 

I've figured it out the perfect solution to all of this:

If you can't spell or use correct grammar and punctuation - you're banned!

Simple as that. Weeds out the ignorant and unedumacated. But if you start a sentence with a preposition it's OK.

 

If you search the forum there are links to vendors all over the place. Yes, I do regulate 1 or 2 of them because I have had major problems with them using the forum illegally. Using the PM system to sell parts is one of them. I have warned them multiple times and they continued to do it, so I dont support them.
Other than that you can find links to just about every vendor.


Jason

 

What does everyone think of creating an Advanced Tech section in each Gen. Section?

Jason

 

what to add to the confusion of an already abundant yet useless amount of forums. More is not always better, especially when they are not governed by the moderators...

 

The idea is to seperate the information from the BS. The problem is there isnt a true tech section for each car and you get tech mixed in with everything else.
Compared to most forums this one has alot less sections.

Jason

 

i am going to do my best in this section of keeping the BS out. sometimes it is hard to determine what should and shouldnt stay. the members of the forum refuse to search. the archives section is great, but that goes back to the original problem (not searching) and the people who know the answers are fed up with answering sometimes 5 times in a week.
i say there should be another TECH only section added to each of the gen forums. if is does not go good. get rid of it. it cant hurt to try. but there must be some sort of clarification as to what is "allowed" in there. someone may think that "what is the problem w/ my boost" may belong in there...i dont think it would. personly i think that may belong in the general 3rd gen specific section. thats just me though.

i still vote on a section that others can view until they are invited in. NOT BY POST COUNT. but by the amount of help they provide. they will not be able to post childish things if they are restricted from doing so.

i also think we should do away with post counter being displayed under a persons name. if someone is keeping track of their posts, let it show on their info page. this may stop some of the childish namecalling of "newbie" and the like.

 

Jason, just my few cents, but I don't think that will help. The same posts will migrate to the "tech" section. Without proper control, it will be just the same. However, if that forum can be controlled, why not the current one?

IMO the forum just needs to be "policed" better from both members and mods.

 

another section i think we should have is a "parts review" section. a lot of parts (aftermarket) are common other than being able to fit correctly for a specific car. i know we have a vendor review section. why not a section for the parts these vendors offer.

 

it has gotten to out of hand because it has not been policed closely for the last few months.

 

I think its a great idea, basically split up the tech support section into generations. Pretty much every tech question applies to a particular generation anyway, and those that don't, that forum gets so little traffic anyway no one will mind a cross post or two.

 

Nathan, the problem with that is people will just migrate to where the majority hangs out. If everyone is hanging out in the tech forums, that's where all the posts will go no matter if they belong or not. We are seeing this now with supsension/wheel questions, lounge style posts, and all the rest.

The problem is as rxrotary2_7 has stated. The forum hasn't been policed too well the last few months.

 

The idea is to move the tech questions into the tech sections. There are alot of generation specific questions that are not tech questions. Those belong in that Generation specific section, but get mixed in with all the tech. It gets confusing weeding through all the threads. If we create a subforum of the Gen sections that is devoted to technical info, we can keep related posts in there. At the beginning Im sure we will be moving alot of threads, but over time it should simplify things.

 

I really think that this is a multi-faceted problem and there will really never be an ultimate solution. I too see the problem with post ******. It is about quantity not quality. You know, "mine is bigger than yours" sort of thing. It is also about the failure of people doing a proper search prior to posting the same questions yet again. It is also a lack of policing. There are alot of good ideas and alot of bad ideas in this thread.

- Post whoring:
If someone is postwhoring in an un-appropriate thread, warn them. If it continues, remove 100 posts from his profile. If it still continues, delete the chaff posts and take yet more posts from his profile. Ultimately you may need to ban someone, but hopefully they would get the picture sooner or later.

- Using search:
Somehow make it more appealing to newbies. Have number for "Searches performed" similar to the "Posts" number in the profile. This could be avery productive way to make it known that a newbie is indeed willing to learn and is at least using search. Hell, they may even start bragging about how many searches they have. They could be "Search ******".

- Policing on the forum:
While nobody enjoys being policed, it is a necessary evil. If improper thread titles are being used, require the poster to fix it or delete the thread. If they are obvious post ******, take appropriate action. If they post a thread that is an obvious question answered several times in previous threads, delete it and tell them to use search in the nicest way possible. And by all means, move threads to the correct forum. I realize that it is alot of work moderating the forum but these are necessary steps to keep threads like this from taking place.

- Spell checking:
Can this feature be added? It doesn't seem right to discriminate against people who have had a bad education or are not articulate. If you do not have these skills though people think of you as a moron already, so why make it worse by segregating forums.

- Added forums/defining forums:
A techinical forum for each gen may be a good idea, if it's policed well enough but we could probably do well enough by policing the current ones better.
A better idea would be to add a "Body Kit" forum and a "How much HP will this add" forum. This may attract some of these posters there so they can get the opinions of others they so desire.

- Update the archives:
Spend some time putting all the past, relevant Q/A's there and don't let post ****** anywhere near it

Anyhow, my $.02

Regards,
Frank

 

:rolf: i like that one! lol. good idea