paintjob on a budget!
Originally Posted by darksider
i second that. also nice work snowball. props to you and props to the inventor
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From: And the horse he rode in on...
Originally Posted by LexTalionis502
Been watching this advance and I have to say it looks really good to be honest. A thought though... If you can do this much by yourself with rollers, what's to stop you from getting a good Wagner power sprayer ($60-$100) and stepping up the quality and ease of application? They aren't hard to use at all, and if kept clean, like any sprayer, they will give you consistent high quality results. Considering the price of a pro paint job, and all other things, this doesn't sound like it would be a bad idea. Just a thought.
http://www.wagner-group.com
http://www.wagner-group.com
I have a Wagner and I have an FC. I don't think that I want them in the same room.
Originally Posted by jackhild59
I am in the middle of a repaint project on my wife's Celica convertible. I am 'doing it right' with lots of help and a friend with his professional grade equipment. It ain't easy and it ain't simple.
I have a Wagner and I have an FC. I don't think that I want them in the same room.
I have a Wagner and I have an FC. I don't think that I want them in the same room.
He's using rollers right now, an affordable sprayer would just be the next step up. A little practice with the sprayer and you're looking at far more even coats, and that equals less work. Period.
Last edited by LexTalionis502; Jun 11, 2006 at 01:58 AM.
Originally Posted by basqueinmyFC
the problem i see with the wagner, is that im not to sure the coats can be put on as light as really needed.... maybe, but ill stick with rolling for now.
Zak
Zak
Any more pictures of your progress??
no....i have been dealing with a bunch of bullshit lately...so i still ahve to hit it for the 3rd coat... but i swear ill get it goin! haha i dont want to be left behind!
Zak
Zak
Originally Posted by DC350
i agree nice job!
That is a pretty lame comment tho crass, why couldn't you think of doing it with your new awesome fd? If the paint turns out good it turns out good its not like its going to damage your car forever!
That is a pretty lame comment tho crass, why couldn't you think of doing it with your new awesome fd? If the paint turns out good it turns out good its not like its going to damage your car forever!
because the paint even though its decent looking for 50 bucks is not better than having the car stripped and painted professionally. sure it looks good and i commend the guy for having the ***** to do it i just couldnt see myself doing it to an fd... esp not an fd with good paint as it is o_O
Originally Posted by crassfc3s
because the paint even though its decent looking for 50 bucks is not better than having the car stripped and painted professionally. sure it looks good and i commend the guy for having the ***** to do it i just couldnt see myself doing it to an fd... esp not an fd with good paint as it is o_O
then why are you bringing up your FD with good paint?
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From: And the horse he rode in on...
Originally Posted by snowball
minor update
O the Noes!!11!!
someone has stolen the rear end of my car.
good thing they set it all down 10 feet away and preped it for paint.

O the Noes!!11!!
someone has stolen the rear end of my car.
good thing they set it all down 10 feet away and preped it for paint.

Looking good.
What grit are you sanding with now? You might try some 1000, then 1500 then the final polish.
What polish you using?
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From: And the horse he rode in on...
Originally Posted by LexTalionis502
That's great jack. However, this is not about you doing it professionally with your friend and his high end equipment. I'm pretty sure none of us would be banging knuckles in our dirty garages and driveways with what tools we have if we had a pocket full of cash and a full on mechanic for a best friend who happens to have a fully equipped shop. Your mindset and situation is on the completely opposite end of the spectrum.
He's using rollers right now, an affordable sprayer would just be the next step up. A little practice with the sprayer and you're looking at far more even coats, and that equals less work. Period.
He's using rollers right now, an affordable sprayer would just be the next step up. A little practice with the sprayer and you're looking at far more even coats, and that equals less work. Period.
No, you entirely missed the point, lex. And please don't attempt to analyze my mindset. I dissed my own personal Wagner equipment. You play psyco-doc on my mind. Sheesh...
FWIW, I am soon to be painting another celica (red) with the roller method, so pull your panties out of your crack and calm down. The red celica is a piece of crap and I STILL wouldn't let the Wagner in the same room with it.
You think the Wagner will be less work; it won't be. You think the results will be better; they won't be.
This roller method is a very, very interesting process. Most of the advantatages of this roller method are due to the extra thin paint thinned with slow drying paint thinner. That enables the painter to put on a very thin coat. The paint has time and viscosity to do a lot of self-leveling.
Run that same thin paint through a Wagner and it is going to be a disaster. The wagner power sprayer is now the problem. You will have all of the downside of spraying a car- overspray, masking, drips and runs due to the thin bodied paint, orange peel, etc that you can get with pro equipment and paint and NONE of the control. If you don't thin it, you will then find out how bad the Wagner really is.
Tell you what. You buy a Wagner sprayer, keep track of your time and expense, including cleanup (cost money to blow thinner through the gun to clean it) and fixing fuckups, and then compare it to snowball's time and expense. Oh and don't forget to include the cost of the gun. I bet he has better results, less time and less money in the project than you and your Wagner sprayer.
If you use less time and money and get better results, I will buy you a beer next time you are in Dallas.
Waddaya say?
Originally Posted by jackhild59
Looking good.
What grit are you sanding with now? You might try some 1000, then 1500 then the final polish.
What polish you using?
What grit are you sanding with now? You might try some 1000, then 1500 then the final polish.
What polish you using?
if you look up in the thread a bit i posted pics of my head light cover they has 1000 1500 and polish done to it.
edit: here

o and im using turtle wax polishing compound and scratch remover (cost me $2.50)
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From: And the horse he rode in on...
Originally Posted by snowball
if your talking about the door it only has 2 coats then a wet sand with 600 so far.
if you look up in the thread a bit i posted pics of my head light cover they has 1000 1500 and polish done to it.
edit: here

o and im using turtle wax polishing compound and scratch remover (cost me $2.50)
if you look up in the thread a bit i posted pics of my head light cover they has 1000 1500 and polish done to it.
edit: here

o and im using turtle wax polishing compound and scratch remover (cost me $2.50)
You might try some of this stuff:
http://superiorcarcare.net/3mperllrubco.html
I got mine at Pep Boys, Walmart has it too.
I have been really impressed with this compound. It is really good, slightly more aggressive than the turtle wax compound you are using. You will get more shine with this product because it takes more of the scratches from the 1500 grit out. Finish with the turtle wax compound then with a wax.
looking good.
i have some of that in the garage, ill give it a go'
ok just tried it out on the top half of the bumper, and it does a mutch better job at evening out the coat. im going to buy a second bottle since this one is almost out.
thanks for the tip
ok just tried it out on the top half of the bumper, and it does a mutch better job at evening out the coat. im going to buy a second bottle since this one is almost out.
thanks for the tip
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