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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 05:20 AM
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Question Compression

Alright all you know it alls. What is the average compression I should have in a 12a? Because I am going to my dad's and we are going to test the engine to see what shape it is really in. Also anything else I might need to know? or check for?
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 09:01 AM
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Mazda specs for my 80 12A are:
85# with no more than a 21# variance between chambers (readings)
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6kg/cm2 with no more than 1.5kg/cm2 between readings
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 09:44 AM
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80-120 psi is what I was told, but it varies depending on cranking speed, elevation, etc. With maximum variance between rotors - 20 psi
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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Thanx guys. Well hopefully everything will go ok this weekend and she meets specs, or I may be looking for a place to send it for rebuild or new engine.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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In case you don't have a Mazda compression tester, and aren't familiar with compression testing with a conventional tester:

If you want a relatively accurate compression test you can use a conventional compression tester. Heres the process.
Disable the fuel system, pull the fusible link, plug the fuel lines whatever. You don't want fuel into the chambers when you are turning the engine over.

Pull all of the plug wires.
Pull the trailing (top) plugs from both rotors.
Screw in the compression tester in the top hole of the front rotor. Hold the release "pin" in on the tester, this will allow the pressure to immediately release on each compression "stroke".
Have someone hold the gas pedal to the floor and turn the car over while you watch the gauge. You should see the needle on the gauge start "bumping" up and down. After watching you can see the three compression cycles. They should all be fairly consistent and not too low.
Repeat the process with the rear rotor.
Also, the car needs a fully charged battery and good starter. It needs to rotate around 250 rpm to get a decent reading.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 02:43 PM
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Agreed to your compression test, thats the way to do it. Except when I do I add one step, when watching the needle bounce I use my digital camera on MPEG That was I can play it back in slo mo and see every bounce perfectly
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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Hey Mike,
What a cool idea. I will have to try that.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 05:17 PM
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mine is right around 8.5kg/cm^2.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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You guys are making me want to pick up a compression tester and try out this shiznit... or not lol
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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Thx guys. Well hopefully all goes well when I do it on Sat. I feel everything will be fine, but no better way to find out then test.
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Old Mar 15, 2002 | 01:00 AM
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mine was at 9.5 per rotar when I had mine rebuilt with now housings
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Old Mar 15, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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If it starts easily when it's hot, it has good enough compression.

The first engine in my '80 had 25psi compression cold. Fired right up every time. (The second engine had 125psi compression with a street port and old seals! )
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