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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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and im pretty sure i dont twist up the story, im pretty sure i tell it how it is.. like u bullshitting every1 saying u eat LS1's all day.. to bad there stock, or they have "heavily" mod's as u say, which would be considered a cam/stahl/slicks, which adds about 20 hp.. like i said in my threads b4, if u missed it..

RACE A TURBO/SUPER CHARGED LS1!! THEN TALK!!

u dont even know the 323 is a LS1.. wow.. get outta here w/ that garbage.. go to LS1tech and do ur research.. kinda like all u guys told me to do when i had questions.. DO YOUR RESEARCH!!

comeback when u know a thing or two.. otherwise stick to your rotary, and stop posting in this thread.. this thread is obviously bullshit.. and was dead until some retard posted BS.. leave it at that..
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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After reading this thread, my IQ just dropped by at least ten points.
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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See there you....I listed one story about beating an LS1, then you go off saying I beat LS1s all day...wrong!

There you go..quoting me in words I didn't use. This is getting stupid.

You throw your car into the shop and WALA, God has given all the power to talk like you've been running your 323 turbo set up.....realllll smart.

Once again you like to twist my words....HOW many times do I have to tell you

I LISTED THAT GUYS MODS...WHICH WERE THE ONES I COULD TELL HEAR THE BAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its not that hard to comprehend. Which is your problem.

But you have alot more than that.

1. You get upset because you didn't like the quote Gotham gave.
2. You act like 400hp is next to impossible, and then yap about Reliability.

Why is reliability a question when you said you wanted a "fun cruiser"?
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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I'm done with this thread..This guy is getting dumber by the post.

Do yourself a favor, stay in Burleson. Don't come to the meets, you wont be welcomed. Your attitude stinks, I've never met guys with V8s ALREADY in their car with a trashy attitude like yours. Its common to have the V8 syndrome you have. I got into cars with V8s first so its understandable.

Reply all you want...Everyone has a gauge on how immature you.

I Think everyone on here stands behind me. This thread got out of hand...and now we know who you really are.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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ok, the point of the matter is, the guy said they quit making the camaro.. apparently they didnt.. they were in production of the 09' camaro.. and they were developing it, and developement takes time.. so really, they never stopped making it, they just didnt wanna pull the wool over the sheep's eyes like mazda did, and be a lame ***, and use the "EXACT SAME ENGINE" as they did in the model b4.. why come out w/ another model, if ur just gonna use the same ****** engine?? god, mazda is one of the dumbest companies, almost as bad as mitsubishi.. gee.. lets make a new car, but put the 13 yr old same exact engine as we did in the model b4.. zzzzzzzzzzz.. guess they ran low of funds.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the "same engine" makes more horsepower than its previous N/A counterpart in the 2nd gen, the "same engine" is no longer twin-sequential turbo from the factory, the "same engine" now has a side port exhaust instead of peripheral like all predecessors, the "same engine" has a different internal setup of apex and side seals...... doesn't quite sound the "same" to me. You have to learn to crawl before you can walk.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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As you guys noticed I gave up on pee wee a long time ago. It started with I need some suggestions modding my rotary to everything is **** but Chevy. That's a Camaro boy if I ever saw one.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:50 AM
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[QUOTE=prrex4ever;7559520] I'm rewriting my thread from above. I don't want to get personal or offense . As you guys noticed I gave up on Chevy guy a long time ago. It started with I need some suggestions modding my rotary to everything is **** but Chevy. Maybe if we ignore him he'll go away.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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yes, ignore me.. stick w/ ur rotors.. the things u have to repair every 60k miles.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Slammedblk7
Well easier said than done. Usually people who bought an RX7 and swapped out for a V8 didn't have success at getting the right combinations for power.

As you might not already know. These aren't V8s that you can slap on a carb and bottle and be off to the races.

Also why settle for a 5.3L? Im just in shock that anyone would pay 8k for 400hp, for 8 grand you should be near 600rwhp+

MP T-70 turbo $500
Haltech E6k $800
hks mani/WG $600
fuel Setup $400
IC set up $500
Exhaust and work $400

Basic rebuild with port *EST*, $1200

JUST OVER $4400!!!! That combo will do over 400HP.

Where you get bent over is. LABOR! not rotary, LABOR!

For around $80-$90/HR...it will hurt.

i would really like to know where u can get a turbo kit for 500 bux, and a rebuild w/ a street port for 1200.. ur obviously off ur ****** block, or go to a guy who does a shitty job, show me proof.. u can get a port + rebuild for 1200..
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Exhaust Manifold $140.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda...spagenameZWDVW

50mm WasteGate $80.00

Turbo ( this can be anyturbo you want there isnt a turbo you have to use, so the prices can go form 50 bucks to 2000. I A friend just got a GT40 turbo off a Ford
truck that will work for 60 bucks, and the thing is almost brand new.)

Turbo Garrett GT35 $300ish http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Garre...QQcmdZViewItem

Intercooler w/ Piping Greddy already made for the FD3s $475 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Gredd...QQcmdZViewItem

Downpipe Custome made from Exhuast shop, $75

Standalone ecu ( You will have to get a new one also so this is free)

Single turbo kit that will be good for about 450rwhp for about $1070

Now for the rebuild

13B rebuild kit with everything needed $855 http://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/cu...cat=591&page=1

Porting can be done two ways you doing it yourself ( My preference ) or paying someplace to do it

Yourself $50 bucks http://www.mazdatrix.com/getprice.asp?partnum=49-22202

A rotary shop $240 for a street port http://www.mazdatrix.com/getprice.as...V-PORT-SINT-TB

Total for a rebuild with street port 1095

So lets recap

Brand new ported motor $1095
Single turbo kit with 450 capability $1070

GRAND TOTAL OF $2165 or just $2200 with shipping


It isnt cheap parts it is call thrifty shopping and waiting for a good deal
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rx7_Nut13B

GRAND TOTAL OF $2165 or just $2200
spanking a V8 with a 1.3 liter: Priceless
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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so the rebuild im suppose to do myself.. when i have no clue on how to work on a rotary? like i said, i dont have the time to do it.. if i did.. i probably wouldnt have a problem doing it myself.. i just dont have the time to look up on how to do it.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TT_Rotary
so the rebuild im suppose to do myself.. when i have no clue on how to work on a rotary? like i said, i dont have the time to do it.. if i did.. i probably wouldnt have a problem doing it myself.. i just dont have the time to look up on how to do it.

i would really like to know where u can get a turbo kit for 500 bux, and a rebuild w/ a street port for 1200.. ur obviously off ur ****** block, or go to a guy who does a shitty job, show me proof.. u can get a port + rebuild for 1200..
Yea i understand, I was just saying that it is possible.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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MP T-70 turbo $500
Haltech E6k $800
hks mani/WG $600
fuel Setup $400
IC set up $500
Exhaust and work $400

Basic rebuild with port *EST*, $1200

JUST OVER $4400!!!! That combo will do over 400HP.

Where you get bent over is. LABOR! not rotary, LABOR!

For around $80-$90/HR...it will hurt.




WHERE IN THE WORLD DO I STATE $500 for a TURBO K-I-T

SHOW ME! IF you do so I will forever shut up...



Hrmmmm..Cant find it? I posted what I told you originally.
Why can't you find it? Because you once again for the 10th time twisted my words..just like everyone elses.

Maybe you were thinking about this?

MP T-70 turbo $500

No where does it say Turbo kit-$500

If you would have learned to comprehend what people say...There would be no arguments.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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WHERE IN THE WORLD DO I STATE $500 for a TURBO K-I-T

SHOW ME! IF you do so I will forever shut up...



Hrmmmm..Cant find it? I posted what I told you originally.
Why can't you find it? Because you once again for the 10th time twisted my words..just like everyone elses.

Maybe you were thinking about this?

MP T-70 turbo $500

No where does it say Turbo kit-$500

If you would have learned to comprehend what people say...There would be no arguments.

and if you'd stop bullshiting and lieing about every damn thing that u type. there would be no arguements.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TT_Rotary
and if you'd stop bullshiting and lieing about every damn thing that u type. there would be no arguements.
I like how you completely went around what I wrote. Stop Trying to toss stupidity onto me.

You still think I said a $500 Turbo kit?????????????????????????????

What a douche.

Only you would think that.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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How is he bullshitting if Rx7_Nut13B just LINKED you to priced goods and gave you a grand total? You should visit BDC and observe him build an engine, if you can keep your negativity in check as not to annoy him. Virtually EVERYTHING can only go one way and the rotary is just about the simplest combustion engine to put together. If you really think rebuilding one is THAT difficult, then you probably don't need to be under the hood of any car and just take it to shops and pay premiums.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EJayCe996
How is he bullshitting if Rx7_Nut13B just LINKED you to priced goods and gave you a grand total? You should visit BDC and observe him build an engine, if you can keep your negativity in check as not to annoy him. Virtually EVERYTHING can only go one way and the rotary is just about the simplest combustion engine to put together. If you really think rebuilding one is THAT difficult, then you probably don't need to be under the hood of any car and just take it to shops and pay premiums.
Or he could just commit suicide.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Or he could just commit suicide.
unless u plan on talking **** about me to my face, dont say anything at all.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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How is he bullshitting if Rx7_Nut13B just LINKED you to priced goods and gave you a grand total? You should visit BDC and observe him build an engine, if you can keep your negativity in check as not to annoy him. Virtually EVERYTHING can only go one way and the rotary is just about the simplest combustion engine to put together. If you really think rebuilding one is THAT difficult, then you probably don't need to be under the hood of any car and just take it to shops and pay premiums.
obviously ur judging me by what u read on this forum, which is pretty ****** stupid, b/c every1 is different in real life, no doubt about it, and yea, u guys know more about rotary engines than i do, and i just suggest let some1 else do the labor, b/c like i said, for the 10th time, i have no time to read threads and forums for hours on end.. and learn.. i work all the time.. unless u wanna rebuild my engine 4 me.. for $1200 and port it.. i dont see any problem w/ me putting a V8 in the rx-7.. light car.. great engine, huge HP.. lets cruise and have fun w/ people on the highway.. =) and have a great looking engine bay.

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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there's a great youtube video of V8 RX-7's cruising, about 30-50 of em.. and they're all clean looking/sounding cars.
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Originally Posted by TT_Rotary
obviously ur judging me by what u read on this forum, which is pretty ****** stupid, b/c every1 is different in real life, no doubt about it, and yea, u guys know more about rotary engines than i do, and i just suggest let some1 else do the labor, b/c like i said, for the 10th time, i have no time to read threads and forums for hours on end.. and learn.. i work all the time.. unless u wanna rebuild my engine 4 me.. for $1200 and port it.. i dont see any problem w/ me putting a V8 in the rx-7.. light car.. great engine, huge HP.. lets cruise and have fun w/ people on the highway.. =) and have a great looking engine bay.
I am quite aware that a lot of people are different in person. Kevin Landers, a well known engine builder, for example is quite blunt on these forums to people who are about to do something stupid to their car. He almost always comes of quite condescending to others but a lot of people who've finally met him in person say he is a real gentleman. I asked him a question about one of his how-tos because a certain area seemed a little "gray" to me and he was more than willing to set me straight and asked me if he should make changes to his how-to to make sure no one else gets confused where I did. Its kinda hard to show in text that I was just making a fun poke at ya but it was nothing serious You should see the way Tessai, rotarynerdette, re-rx7, a few others, and I knock each other. Some people were like "do you guys even like each other?" but its all in fun. You gotta lighten up.
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unless u plan on talking **** about me to my face, dont say anything at all.
Come to one of the meets, I think most of us would like to meet you in person. Dont listen to Slammed, he would probably say hi to you as well.

Id probably come out too, I havent been to one in ages!
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Hmm...
Go buy yourself a 5.0 if you want cheap and decent straight line performance. It's pretty 'nekkin too! I don't think they have t-tops and gold chains though.

You've got QUITE a bit to learn about LSx engine family. To suit my needs, only GM drivetrains would have worked for me. Tired of the porsche bull watercooled engines of yesteryear and the 911 watercooled, pissed off at the STi and Evo issues. So here me out whether you like it or not, as it appears you seek guidance on the LS1 world.

1) Like any "relatively attainable" engine, for a turbo with engine, expect at least 20K.

2) ANY 3rd or 4th gen. small block GM v8 is a LSx. everything from the 4.8 to the 7.0 is a LSx to the performance community. So excluding little variants, most performance things are interchangable/

3) You *could* do a cheap turbo build. As in... finding a 'yard LQ4 (The Denali/ HD Fe 6.0, it's a lower compression engine than the LQ9) and a very cheap turbo setup. Like anything, tune makes all the world. There are stock internal aluminum 5.7 LS1's north of 650rwhp, all because of safe tune.

4) The rotary engine is simple in theory, however, it's a very niche engine, and practically speaking, your going to be S.O.L. wrenching if your accustomed to the mechanics of a piston engine.

5) When/if you decide and go for a ***** out LSx build, then practically speaking, you'll be into another league entirely, like hunting the quadruple horsepower digit vipers and what, expect... 35K+ for a complete driveline and support (shortened 9", chassis work, suspension, trans, engine, fuel, etc. etc. etc)

6) It was indeed touched by the hand of God, that torch is passed now to the LS9 variant and its hellspawn.


That all said.
You got options:
A) Rebuild the thing and live with the costs.
B) Get a street/strip car off of racingjunk or someplace, get 'er huffing some giggle gas
C) write the car off as a learning experiment: dive in, do it yourself ?
D) ATTEMPT the swap, only to later realize that like any major project, your budget wasn't properly allocated for. Whatever you think it costs, take the cost of the engine and trans you want, and take the conversion costs, and multiply by 2... or 3 depending on your luck.

Option A) and C) could broaden your horizons. D) cool, but realize you potentially open a can of worms.
B) the cop out, but works!



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