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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Thinking of Modding, need some help

well, my main help that i need, is.. where to find a reasonable rebuilder. i contacted GR, but, WOW! there prices are crazy.. im just looking to get around 400HP out of my car.. so this is what i had in mind...

1) rebuild the motor
2) street port
3) convert to single turbo ( if any1 has any suggestions on good turbo's, let me know)

i heard GT35R Dual BB is good, but is it enough to push 400 hp? or should i just go w/ gotham racings turbo kit.

gotham estimated it to be around 10,000... and yeh.. no way. im sure i can find some1 to rebuild it for cheaper.. the rebuild is the main concern.. the other prices are reasonable, the porting isnt that much, the single turbo was only about 3600.

so, pretty much, all in all, i guess the real question is, where is a good rebuilder, w/ a great price? i know a guy in arlington, by a tuning shop called TRT.. but, they said he's hard to contact b/c he works at an airport during the day, so he's at shop at night, and of course, i work during the day.. =) so, my schedule is kinda bleh w/ that guy.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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You can always contact Brian Cain, He is in grand prairie, and does a GREAT job at rebuilding and porting motors. He goes by BDC on the fourms
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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well, my main help that i need, is.. where to find a reasonable rebuilder. i contacted GR, but, WOW! there prices are crazy.. im just looking to get around 400HP out of my car.. so this is what i had in mind...

1) rebuild the motor
2) street port
3) convert to single turbo ( if any1 has any suggestions on good turbo's, let me know)

i heard GT35R Dual BB is good, but is it enough to push 400 hp? or should i just go w/ gotham racings turbo kit.

gotham estimated it to be around 10,000... and yeh.. no way. im sure i can find some1 to rebuild it for cheaper.. the rebuild is the main concern.. the other prices are reasonable, the porting isnt that much, the single turbo was only about 3600.

so, pretty much, all in all, i guess the real question is, where is a good rebuilder, w/ a great price? i know a guy in arlington, by a tuning shop called TRT.. but, they said he's hard to contact b/c he works at an airport during the day, so he's at shop at night, and of course, i work during the day.. =) so, my schedule is kinda bleh w/ that guy.
That would be Juan.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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do u guys have any price ranges??

thanks 4 the help.

what turbo would u guys recommend being the best to push around 400- 420 hp? not trying to go to insane, just a little.. =)
Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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Well i am all ways available for a rebuild
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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yeah 10k is a lil on the pricy side, i'll bet Rx7 nut can do it for a lil less.... maybe 9k?
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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10k is for everything though.. the rebuild.. the turbo kit.. the street port.. ect ect.

and the exact cost was like 8840..or something.. i just round up.. dont we all.. =)
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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just contact brian at bdc@bdcmotorsports.com . Send him a email with what you want done and he'll give you a price. Haha I can't tell you exactly but he'd be the most bang for the buck.
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Yeah Brian Does a good job might wanna try him
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Did that 8800 include a reman motor as well? A motor r&r, streetport, and single turbo install for that price (parts and labor) isn't bad at all. I may be biased, but call up rx7.com to get another quote, I'm sure it'll be similar.

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$10,000 will get 650 HP/600+ TQ naturally aspirated on pump gas at 6200 RPM from a IA2 Pontiac assembly. Price is kinda high. Pontiac racing stuff is expensive.

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yea, im trashing the rotary, im going w/ a 5.3L 323 engine, w/ a turbo on it, running about 15-20 lbs of boost, push about 500-600 hp.. =) it'll be fun.. i cant wait, goes in the shop this week.. i just got sick of gaining 100 hp for 8,000 dollars, might as well pay 8,000 for 400hp.. =) u know what i mean, she's gonna roar like a monster.
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Originally Posted by TT_Rotary
yea, im trashing the rotary, im going w/ a 5.3L 323 engine, w/ a turbo on it, running about 15-20 lbs of boost, push about 500-600 hp.. =) it'll be fun.. i cant wait, goes in the shop this week.. i just got sick of gaining 100 hp for 8,000 dollars, might as well pay 8,000 for 400hp.. =) u know what i mean, she's gonna roar like a monster.
I think that is the reason why it is costing you so much to gain HP, you sound like someone that takes it to the shop to get work done.

I am in the 550rwhp and only have in the motor (Not reliability mods) about 5K

13B HBP built by myself
GT42 Turbo installed myself
Front mount IC with new Front bumper installed myself
PowerFC installed and tuned myself
850pri/1600sec injectors installed myself

You just got to bite the bullet and jump feet first into your goals, if you don't know how to complete something READ READ READ. That is the only way to learn.......

To each there own, because the ROTARY will live on.
Old Nov 19, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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^^^^^ TRUF! My car has never seen a shop since my ownership.

I got a lot more than 400hp, with a lot less than 8k.

I never saw the point of taking my car to the shop for performance work,(no offense to anyone) when the labor costs more than the mods themselves.
Old Nov 19, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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well, we'll see who's outlives who, when im pushing 600hp+ and survives 30+ years.. you'll still be rebuilding your constantly.. =).. rotarys = no torque making piece of junk..

might have a 13b for sale here pretty soon.
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wow..... lol..... more like you WILL have a 13b for sale soon. And way to assume all of us build 1k mile engines.

How long did BDC go without blowing his engine? 9 years was it? Although technically he never "blew" it, he just cracked an iron.

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Well easier said than done. Usually people who bought an RX7 and swapped out for a V8 didn't have success at getting the right combinations for power.

As you might not already know. These aren't V8s that you can slap on a carb and bottle and be off to the races.

Also why settle for a 5.3L? Im just in shock that anyone would pay 8k for 400hp, for 8 grand you should be near 600rwhp+

MP T-70 turbo $500
Haltech E6k $800
hks mani/WG $600
fuel Setup $400
IC set up $500
Exhaust and work $400

Basic rebuild with port *EST*, $1200

JUST OVER $4400!!!! That combo will do over 400HP.

Where you get bent over is. LABOR! not rotary, LABOR!

For around $80-$90/HR...it will hurt.
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I suggest you go to hinsonsupercars and do an ls1 instead of a 323... you'll dump unnecessary amounts of money for that swap when the ls work is more common, has more development, and (what you seem to care the most about) cheaper.
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Also, Good luck running that amount of boost on any V8 not prepped for boost. Your boost will be indeed less than half that. BUT if you want to run 15-20psi tack on about 4k to your 8k swap.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
If you wanna play, you gotta pay
while i'm still wasting time when i need to be sleeping now cuz i've been up for two days now....

50% of the FD owners can't do that. They own a car they can't afford, or don't have enough experience with, and end up being real cheap with the car and cutting corners and the next thing they know they have a timebomb on their hands that ends up costing them more in the end than if they spent the extra pocket changed to do it right the first time. A lot of us are playing, but in general are trying to do so at half the pay (everyone in the performance market, all makes and models).
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Iam not gonna lie my first engine in my car i treated like **** and it bit me in the ***. Yet, something told me not to sell the car and keep pushing. The car now is awesome and i take really good care of it. It's stupidity that kills rotary's and in some cases just bad luck.
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Well easier said than done. Usually people who bought an RX7 and swapped out for a V8 didn't have success at getting the right combinations for power.

As you might not already know. These aren't V8s that you can slap on a carb and bottle and be off to the races.

Also why settle for a 5.3L? Im just in shock that anyone would pay 8k for 400hp, for 8 grand you should be near 600rwhp+

MP T-70 turbo $500
Haltech E6k $800
hks mani/WG $600
fuel Setup $400
IC set up $500
Exhaust and work $400

Basic rebuild with port *EST*, $1200

JUST OVER $4400!!!! That combo will do over 400HP.

Where you get bent over is. LABOR! not rotary, LABOR!

For around $80-$90/HR...it will hurt.
apparently u didnt read correctly, thats what i said.. 500-600 hp.. please read carefully next time.
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Also, Good luck running that amount of boost on any V8 not prepped for boost. Your boost will be indeed less than half that. BUT if you want to run 15-20psi tack on about 4k to your 8k swap.
and once again, u think im just putting a stock 323 in?? of course not, of course its gonna be "prepped" for boost.. u think im a ****** idiot dont you?? and the total cost is 8k.. no more.. so yeh.. u obviously have no idea wtf your talking about.. the full swap + turbo + dyno.. everything to drop the car off, to turn the key.. 8k..



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