Thinking of Modding, need some help
11-25-07, 01:36 PM
#51
It's the same as a high output rotary engine. If you upgrade the engine but have a weak drivetrain something is going to give. So with all your HP and TORQUE? you should also upgrade your rearend. Ummm, you might want to change your sig since your not TT Rotary.
Since what I said above is obvious to you your probably looking at some suspension pieces to control your wheel hop, upgraded axles, a diff. brace and maybe a Kaas rearend. I think that Camaro is looking better and better with each post.
Since what I said above is obvious to you your probably looking at some suspension pieces to control your wheel hop, upgraded axles, a diff. brace and maybe a Kaas rearend. I think that Camaro is looking better and better with each post.dont be mad b/c u have a shitty no torque making POS.. and envy me b/c im about to out-run any rotary engine that steps up to my level.. if rotary engines were so great, "everyone" would use em.. but, u only see them in RX models.. and how many RX's sell.. not a whole lot.. why? b/c no1 likes rotary engines.. now my friend.. how many camaro's.. trans ams... 323 Z71's... 350's.. 454's. do u see out there?? my point is proven.. now get off my nuts dude.. and honestly, i dont care if my names TT_rotary or not.. cry about my name.. geez.. sue me? u people will make any excuse to cry on this forum.. if u like, u can buy my 13b.. HAHA!! yea.. its gonna be for sale here real soon..
11-25-07, 01:47 PM
#52
There were no survivors
That's bad logic... Its a POS because it doesn't make torque? Its a POS because every car manufacturer isn't using it? Last I checked Subaru is about the only company making 4 cylinder Boxer engines, does that make them a POS too? Porsche is also about the only company making 6 cyl Boxer engines, so the MUST be POS engines too, right? I mean come on, you might say they're still piston engines BUT next to no other manufacturer uses that piston arrangement, now you're just trying to bait us here with nonsense. Ignore them and move on, it is YOUR car because you're really starting to make yourself (well all of us are actually) foolish.
11-25-07, 02:51 PM
#54
dont be mad b/c u have a shitty no torque making POS.. and envy me b/c im about to out-run any rotary engine that steps up to my level.. if rotary engines were so great, "everyone" would use em.. but, u only see them in RX models.. and how many RX's sell.. not a whole lot.. why? b/c no1 likes rotary engines.. now my friend.. how many camaro's.. trans ams... 323 Z71's... 350's.. 454's. do u see out there?? my point is proven.. now get off my nuts dude.. and honestly, i dont care if my names TT_rotary or not.. cry about my name.. geez.. sue me? u people will make any excuse to cry on this forum.. if u like, u can buy my 13b.. HAHA!! yea.. its gonna be for sale here real soon..
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11-25-07, 04:30 PM
#55
That's bad logic... Its a POS because it doesn't make torque? Its a POS because every car manufacturer isn't using it? Last I checked Subaru is about the only company making 4 cylinder Boxer engines, does that make them a POS too? Porsche is also about the only company making 6 cyl Boxer engines, so the MUST be POS engines too, right? I mean come on, you might say they're still piston engines BUT next to no other manufacturer uses that piston arrangement, now you're just trying to bait us here with nonsense. Ignore them and move on, it is YOUR car because you're really starting to make yourself (well all of us are actually) foolish.
subaru is garbage.. every1 who owned one, or has owned one for quite some time, will tell u there garbage, they're engines dont last for ****, just like the evo's.. the subaru.. specifically talking about the wrx im guessing and the evo's.. go hand in hand.. both are garbage. porsche.. im not sure, im not saying anything about it, b/c i dont know much about em.. dont intend too either, have no use for em.. go look at the engine statistics.. GM motors.. vs.. import motors.. which sells more?? =/ come on.. ur defending an engine that has to be rebuilt every 50-60k miles.. lol.. b/c some apex seals go out.. now if thats isnt bullshit, i dont know what is.. like the other guy said.. rotary engines are a pain in the ***, in a short similar term.. i have no patience, nor do i have time to fix it if something goes wrong, and i do more than just sit on this forum and read on how to work on rotary engines, i do not have time... that simple.. so, im going w/ a GM motor.. something that i can do myself in 2 minutes, figure the problem out in 30 seconds.. not get on a forum and search and read for q/a all day. simple as that..
11-25-07, 08:38 PM
#56
There were no survivors
Every Subaru model has had a boxer engine for quite some while. I don't know who you talk to but I do have a friend (practically a brother) with an 04 STi as well as browse NASIOC and they tell quite a different story than your hearsay of Subaru reliability. I know the older RS models (GC) were semi-notorious for taking out head gaskets with ease (nothing ARP head studs and a layered steel HG wouldn't cure permanently) but they have their boxer engines lasting 200k+ so you must only know the people who modify and have no idea what they are doing. I DO know that the GD, non-STi, transmissions were extremely weak and could be compromised quite easily with a few power mods. And I'm not defending an engine, I've been letting you know that you've been totally blindsided by hearsay on almost everything. Any engine can be unreliable if built and/or tuned wrong... I don't care if it is made out of titanium and diamonds if there is a flaw in the mechanics it won't work. 50k-60k engine? My N/A (it doesn't make a difference because it's still a 50k rotary right?) is 150k strong on its original engine. I remember reading somewhere else in the 2nd gen. forum of someone with a 210k TII. What is there to defend if the proof is already there that you're wrong about what you think you know? Read all my posts in this thread and I guarantee you they're not all trying to defend the rotary and trying to get you to keep it in your FD.
BTW, my friend is very happy with his STi (other than gas mileage
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BTW, my friend is very happy with his STi (other than gas mileage
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11-25-07, 09:19 PM
#57
Every Subaru model has had a boxer engine for quite some while. I don't know who you talk to but I do have a friend (practically a brother) with an 04 STi as well as browse NASIOC and they tell quite a different story than your hearsay of Subaru reliability. I know the older RS models (GC) were semi-notorious for taking out head gaskets with ease (nothing ARP head studs and a layered steel HG wouldn't cure permanently) but they have their boxer engines lasting 200k+ so you must only know the people who modify and have no idea what they are doing. I DO know that the GD, non-STi, transmissions were extremely weak and could be compromised quite easily with a few power mods. And I'm not defending an engine, I've been letting you know that you've been totally blindsided by hearsay on almost everything. Any engine can be unreliable if built and/or tuned wrong... I don't care if it is made out of titanium and diamonds if there is a flaw in the mechanics it won't work. 50k-60k engine? My N/A (it doesn't make a difference because it's still a 50k rotary right?) is 150k strong on its original engine. I remember reading somewhere else in the 2nd gen. forum of someone with a 210k TII. What is there to defend if the proof is already there that you're wrong about what you think you know? Read all my posts in this thread and I guarantee you they're not all trying to defend the rotary and trying to get you to keep it in your FD.
BTW, my friend is very happy with his STi (other than gas mileage )
BTW, my friend is very happy with his STi (other than gas mileage
)repair rotary engine 60k miles
210k miles...
lets see which one gets more votes.. i garuntee it, 5% of the forum says 210k.. the otehr 95% say 60k..
the rotary engine, is NOT RELIABLE at all.. i will be pushing 500-600 hp.. and it can be my daily driver w/ ease.. w/ badass gas mileage.. ez to fix.. and so forth.. ur putting an engine that no1 knows about, up against, a gm motor.. that notorious for its output in hp/torque and reliability.
all in all.. a 323 is still better than a rotary.. make a poll on that too.
11-25-07, 10:44 PM
#58
There were no survivors
The proper terminology is a "statistical outlier" and 50-60k would still be a statistical outlier as well when its actually more around 120k as an average. And I doubt a car that doesn't naturally put down 600hp from the factory would last much longer than 120k either, granted the engine's base hp was below 400. And would you really want me to poll the rotary vs 323 poll in a biased environment? That's a statistical "no no," dear Watson. You're just trying to prove opinion and not facts. Keep the updates coming on your swap when its underway.
11-25-07, 10:53 PM
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well.....stock N/A the 13b is known to surpass 160k, there are even TII's going over 200k. it's all about care. even piston engines are a pain, they have like 60 moving parts while a rotary has like 3.....so technically a piston engine is more of a pain bc of all the parts that have a potential to fail.
Now the torque issue, you compare a v8 to a 1.3l engine...ooooo you're bad. let us have a more even match. a 26b vs a v8....a 2.6liter rotary vs a 5.7liter v8. the 26b has so much torque that they are known to eat the dodge viper transmission alive. many have to get a custom race tranny assembled to handle the torque. so before you argue torque, let's make sure it's a fair arguement. a 26b will totally destroy a v8 and will handle ungodly amounts of power very reliably
Now the torque issue, you compare a v8 to a 1.3l engine...ooooo you're bad. let us have a more even match. a 26b vs a v8....a 2.6liter rotary vs a 5.7liter v8. the 26b has so much torque that they are known to eat the dodge viper transmission alive. many have to get a custom race tranny assembled to handle the torque. so before you argue torque, let's make sure it's a fair arguement. a 26b will totally destroy a v8 and will handle ungodly amounts of power very reliably
11-25-07, 11:14 PM
#60
dude, look at the price difference.. ur talking, a LS1.. a 1500- 2000$ engine, vs. a what?? 5 - 10k engine? come on dude.. 13b - LS1 cost the same.. 26b cost how much?? point proven my friend.. dont throw in some expensive *** engine.. u can pick up a LS1 engine for 500 bucks.. i do believe u cant do that w/ a 26b.. get real.
11-26-07, 02:25 AM
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dont be mad b/c u have a shitty no torque making POS.. and envy me b/c im about to out-run any rotary engine that steps up to my level.. if rotary engines were so great, "everyone" would use em.. but, u only see them in RX models.. and how many RX's sell.. not a whole lot.. why? b/c no1 likes rotary engines.. now my friend.. how many camaro's.. trans ams... 323 Z71's... 350's.. 454's. do u see out there?? my point is proven.. now get off my nuts dude.. and honestly, i dont care if my names TT_rotary or not.. cry about my name.. geez.. sue me? u people will make any excuse to cry on this forum.. if u like, u can buy my 13b.. HAHA!! yea.. its gonna be for sale here real soon..
11-26-07, 05:46 PM
#67
to bad they didnt quit making them, i bet u feel like a real big ***** right about now..
do ur research tard, or stick to the rotary engine.. eithers fine w/ me.. oh man.. u had me laughing.. HAHA.. they quit making the camaro.. HAHAHAHA.. wow, u really are stupid.. jesus, and ur trying to lecture me on V8 RX-7 sucking. and how rotary engines are so "GREAT". lol.. now go slap urself in the face a few times 4 me.
now ur gonna tell me i dont work on my own car?? lol.. ur a joke.. go kick urself in the nuts as well.
11-26-07, 05:47 PM
#68
i hope thats a big enough picture for ya.. mustangs.. LMAO!! we see how many of those last.. and the parts are dirt cheap.. and most of them are V6's.. its a ford dude.. are u serious?? and i highly doubt that mustangs outsold camaro's and trans ams.. like i said in the thread above.. do ur research.
11-26-07, 05:49 PM
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give pontiac time. they'll be out w/ another trans am.. and dont forget, how long did it take mazda to think of the rx-8?? hhmm... yea.. RX models are so good.. they put the same engine they had in the last RX model.. in the brand new model.. WOW.. WHAT A SMART IDEA!!
11-26-07, 06:51 PM
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Yes its slow
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Why did you even bother to buy one in the first place?
I think i had more fun beating the countless amount of v8s when I used to go out hunting. All that on less than your 15-20psi. 13psi was the magic number...I used to do that allllll summmmmmer looooonggggg.
I think i had more fun beating the countless amount of v8s when I used to go out hunting. All that on less than your 15-20psi. 13psi was the magic number...I used to do that allllll summmmmmer looooonggggg.
11-26-07, 09:28 PM
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Well lets just say...that combo was very tough on the street. I remember one night, A friend and I were on our way home and decided to stop by the local "racing spot" I ran into a Firebird with an Ls1 who always thought he was badddd. Well I took him off his high horse after 5 consecutive runs pulling away every time in the top of 2nd gear.
that is one of many instances
that is one of many instances
11-26-07, 09:28 PM
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yo TT...i was merely having a more fair comparison.....not cost but TORQUE so who is the retard. torque wise a 26b will kill a v8, that's all i was discussing and again RETARD, what was the last year of the camaro??? OMG, they did quit production and now they're COMING BACK OUT to save the domestic markets *** because honda, toyota, and nissan are handing them their asses.....by the way american engines are cheap but big pieces of ****
Best engines:
4 banger.....sr20det
6 cylinder.....2jz
and the V8 goes to....drum roll....OMG its not a 327, 350, 460.....it's the new V8 that is put in the Toyota Tundra. well, looks like you will have to get a toyota v8 because all american engines are VERY weak and have low hp for the displacement, making them big pieces of **** compared to the toyota.
Now the king of all engines.......Mazda Rotary in 4 rotor form.
Best engines:
4 banger.....sr20det
6 cylinder.....2jz
and the V8 goes to....drum roll....OMG its not a 327, 350, 460.....it's the new V8 that is put in the Toyota Tundra. well, looks like you will have to get a toyota v8 because all american engines are VERY weak and have low hp for the displacement, making them big pieces of **** compared to the toyota.
Now the king of all engines.......Mazda Rotary in 4 rotor form.
11-26-07, 10:19 PM
#74
There were no survivors
Now it has become quite apparent this guy is hardcore GM. Although I will agree with the Ford 4.Sucks v8s I'd say the 5.2 is a whole different beast though. Ford's 4.6L's are the redheaded stepchildren (no offense to Jacqui ) of the v8 world. They get quite the lashing on the v8 car forums.
I'd say the 5.2 is a whole different beast though. Ford's 4.6L's are the redheaded stepchildren (no offense to Jacqui ) of the v8 world. They get quite the lashing on the v8 car forums.