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Old 10-11-09, 11:19 PM
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That would be fantastic. I'll try to be in that area around noon. Thanks Crit.

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Old 10-11-09, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Acesanugal
Then comes the problem of locating the waterpump to housing and housing to block gaskets in the morning.
gasket material is ur friend. just don't loose those little shims.
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Originally Posted by Crit
Yeah, those bolts are always such a bitch. Steel fasteners in aluminum, with electrolysis due to the coolant.... If you guys aren't anti-seizing these bolts when you have them out, you're doing yourself a huge disservice. Not as important for steel 12A pumps, but aluminum water pumps housing make this stuff hugely important.

Kevin, I can bring my harness with me to work tomorrow, which is just down the street from my house. Give me a call when you're close.
yeah Crit, thanks to your influence on me. I am going to have a tub of anti seize, and a tube of Hylomar on me for every bolt and gasket I come across doing the swap to Ray's shell.
Old 10-12-09, 07:51 AM
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Morning everybody! I'm starting my day listening to ambulance sirens( I live literally 30 seconds away form Grady). I just noticed that our post count is up on the xroads guys by a little over 100 and that our thread view is way up to. It looks like the OGTA ( and YGTB) is becoming the hot new group.
Old 10-12-09, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bwaits_
Nectar of the Gods.


If you can not get a hold of the remaining part of the studs and vice grip them out then they will need to be drilled out.

Cut them flush, Start with a small drill in the center. Work your way up with larger drills. Use an easy out system to remove the rest of the stud - OR - Drill just to the tap size and re tap the hole.

To be honest you are better off changing the water pump housing. It would be a quicker job. Easy outs are no guarantee - they sometimes make more work for you by breaking off in the hole.

-billy
What Billy said. If you have a way to cut the bolt level and drill a good pilot hole, I have had easy outs work. You should be soaking the bolt with PB Blaster or something now. I have had easy outs break off in the bolt too, then you will have to swap the water pump housing.
Old 10-12-09, 08:50 AM
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Well the only place I can get the two gaskets I need are from Sutherlin. Gonna have to order them.

It's currently pouring rain at an alarming rate, so I can't go out and drill or work on the car at all like I had planned last night...so I woke up early for nothing.

My mom is letting me take her car to work tonight, so I'm covered for that.

Who's got some C4 I can borrow...?
Old 10-12-09, 09:59 AM
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Old 10-12-09, 10:01 AM
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No no, I need something to blow my car up. lol
Old 10-12-09, 10:32 AM
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^Lolz, don't get too down. Want to buy my car? I don't use it.
Old 10-12-09, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Acesanugal
No no, I need something to blow my car up. lol
Put a match near the fuel rail?


With your luck, it would be this huge explosion.......and once the dust settled everything would be destroyed sans the water pump housing with half a stud in it.....

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Old 10-12-09, 11:24 AM
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Funny, Billy. You are right about my luck. What pisses me off is that I'm not as brutal removing bolts, nuts or fasteners like a lot of people I've seen...yet I'm the one that ends up with broken **** lol

I got out a wired speed drill and every bit I own or could find. I didn't even make a dent in either stud. What am I missing?

Just in case I couldn't get this figured out, I ordered the gaskets from Mazda which will be in Thursday. Again though, I'd prefer to not have to swap housings for fear of damaging my oil metering lines.. Anyone have tips on that?

Or how about I just pay Billy or Crit or Ray like $30 to come drill these studs out for me? :-P
Old 10-12-09, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Acesanugal
Funny, Billy. You are right about my luck. What pisses me off is that I'm not as brutal removing bolts, nuts or fasteners like a lot of people I've seen...yet I'm the one that ends up with broken **** lol

I got out a wired speed drill and every bit I own or could find. I didn't even make a dent in either stud. What am I missing?

Just in case I couldn't get this figured out, I ordered the gaskets from Mazda which will be in Thursday. Again though, I'd prefer to not have to swap housings for fear of damaging my oil metering lines.. Anyone have tips on that?

Or how about I just pay Billy or Crit or Ray like $30 to come drill these studs out for me? :-P
That won't even cover the gas! Seriously dude, 7mpg. Granted, I'm loving every minute of it.

Swapping the WP housing shouldn't really endanger the OMP lines. You have a little tab that's under one of the housing bolts that locates the OMP lines. Take that loose, slide the OMP lines right and rear from where they are, tie them off with a shoe lace or dental floss or something, and you won't have to worry about them.
Old 10-12-09, 11:48 AM
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PB blaster and WD-40 aint nothing. A few guys from the club need to get together and go in on a case of Aero Kroil (The oil that creeps). It is from Kano laboratories! This is the **** - when it comes to ruted bolts etc. It is the only thing that we have come across that does work. You can only get it by a case of 6. About $16.00 a can.

http://www.kanolabs.com/
Old 10-12-09, 12:00 PM
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7mpg?! I thought my gas mileage was bad..

Anyways, I'm not sure what tab you're talking about...only thing that comes to mind is one of those bendable anchors that hold the lines from just moving about and hitting things?
Old 10-12-09, 12:25 PM
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I like the left handed drill bits for making the pilot holes for the easy outs. Usually they end up pulling the bolt out before I get to the easy out stage.
Old 10-12-09, 12:27 PM
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I'm off to the store to see if I can't get something for my dremel to get these ******* out. Yay for spending more money....
Old 10-12-09, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Acesanugal
I got out a wired speed drill and every bit I own or could find. I didn't even make a dent in either stud. What am I missing?
u sure the drill was running the right direction or maybe ur drill bits need sharpening?
Old 10-12-09, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rxtasy3
u sure the drill was running the right direction or maybe ur drill bits need sharpening?
...Yes, I'm sure the drill was running the right direction...

The drill bits were brand new, never used. I found them down in my room...my parents bought them for me like last christmas or two years ago or something.

I'm just gonna say **** it and replace the whole housing which is absolutely ridiculous but it's the only option I'm equipped to choose. And I can't go spending silly amounts of money on dremel attachments, bit sets, etc that may not even do the job in the end.

Considering places that I wanted to go this week, people I wanted to see, let me be the one to say: This. *******. Blows.
Old 10-12-09, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iheartthewankel
I just noticed that our post count is up on the xroads guys by a little over 100 and that our thread view is way up to. It looks like the OGTA ( and YGTB) is becoming the hot new group.
yeah i took notice awhile back when the thread started gaining ground on them and now we're pulling away. the number of views have been waaay more than theirs for quite some time.
Old 10-12-09, 01:14 PM
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now if the pump housing ur going to use has a good pump on it there's no reason to swap pumps to the other housing. just swap them as a complete unit. that will save alot of time. only one gasket to seal and like 5 nuts.
Old 10-12-09, 01:20 PM
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Waterpump had already been removed.

It's too late, I already ordered a new waterpump gasket anyways.
Old 10-12-09, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by yayo420
I met one guy at the Mars PA apple festival, I was wearing a Zoom Fest tshirt and he stopped me. we talked about 7's for like 30 mins. he said his stays park all winter. the only other 7's around here are V8ed
I used to live in Zelienople until 2007. Say that fast three times. Its just north of Mars. I didn't meet too many folks up there with 7s and I was up there for almost 20 years.

You do not want to drive any car you value in the winter up there, take my word for it. Park at the first snow and don't get it out until spring.
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Michael, thanks for the "are you sure you are running the drill the right way" comment, that made my day.
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Old 10-12-09, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ray green
Michael, thanks for the "are you sure you are running the drill the right way" comment, that made my day.
my pleasure ray. unless those studs were hardened, that was the only reason he couldn't drill them. and roland......two thumbs up.


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