Rotary Car Performance General Rotary Car and Engine modification discussions.

Nitromethane

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-22-03, 08:56 PM
  #1  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
boyrotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nitromethane

Has anyone ever tried Nitromethane on a rotary?
Or a diluted mix. I know you can buy products that are used for octane boosting that are up to about 30% nitro. But in a tank that would be about 1%.

How well would about 20-50% Nitro - mixed with pump gas work?

Piston dragsters use it on 2-3000hp V8s I believe?
Old 06-22-03, 10:01 PM
  #2  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
10sec rx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,350
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Nitro wont mix with petrol, it has to be added with something like methenol before it will mix,

im sure it will work fine, but you would be better off going straight methenol and adding nitro to it.

Dale
Old 06-24-03, 12:11 AM
  #3  
Senior Member

 
Magnus Berglund's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Jönköping, Sweden
Posts: 739
Received 5 Likes on 1 Post
I think Nirto is to much for a rotary..
Have you seen a TF dragster motor after one run?

I have done a lot of 2 stroke Rc dragracing and have played with nitor alot..

If you get it to fire (with metanol as nitro will not burn alone) I think that yo'll pop it quite soon.....

But hey, if you got a running motor that you don't need or to much money.. DO it!

I'm pretty sure it will sound lovley!

// magnus
Old 06-24-03, 12:14 AM
  #4  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Resource's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Saint Louis
Posts: 2,092
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You thought our rotaries needed alot of fuel.............try nitro !
Old 06-24-03, 06:45 AM
  #5  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
boyrotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Interesting, thanks guys.

Just out of interests sake, what would it take to set up a methanol fuel system?
Would it be worth it? (Hypothetically)
How would one mix nitro with it?
Old 06-24-03, 08:47 AM
  #6  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Resource's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Saint Louis
Posts: 2,092
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nitro will double your horsepower.
Old 06-24-03, 09:50 PM
  #7  
The Power of 1.3

 
911GT2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Shrewsbury, Massachusetts
Posts: 2,837
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Resource
Nitro will double your horsepower.
Any evidence on that one? Or just theory and speculation?
Old 06-24-03, 10:39 PM
  #8  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Resource's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Saint Louis
Posts: 2,092
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How do you think top fuel dragsters make so much power?
Old 06-25-03, 11:39 AM
  #9  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
LT1RX7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 863
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
"Nitro will double your horsepower."
"How do you think top fuel dragsters make so much power?"

Quite possible 2 of the most ignorant uninformed statements every made. Yep just add some nitro and you will double your horsepower.....add a couple stickers and triple it. Take a look at some science books and then come back with the right anwser.

Mike
Old 06-25-03, 01:38 PM
  #10  
Senior Member

 
Magnus Berglund's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Jönköping, Sweden
Posts: 739
Received 5 Likes on 1 Post
I agree with the previous..

A TF dragster makes 5-6000 bhp..
They have ignitionsystems that will make any plug melt in 5 seconds...
Only 20-30% (i think is is)of the fule is burnt inside the engine.. the rest burns outside the headers...

Try that on a rotary..

// magnus
Old 06-25-03, 01:45 PM
  #11  
Full Member

 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pensacol/Milton/Orlando (UCF)
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm pretty sure nitromethane follows the same rules of physics the rest of the world does...
Old 06-25-03, 11:40 PM
  #12  
Senior Member

 
milkman2k52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: redmond wa
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think what resource meant was nitro ALLOWS you to double your horsepower. You can run twice the boost, twice the nitrous, probably 1.5 times the compression, etc. etc.
Old 06-26-03, 07:23 AM
  #13  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
LT1RX7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 863
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If that is what he meant cool but all we need is so me kid added nitromethane to his car because he wants to double his horsepower.

"I'm pretty sure nitromethane follows the same rules of physics the rest of the world does..." and your point is? the different temperature and energy released when burned is what I was referring to. If you dont understand I can spell it out for you.

Last edited by LT1RX7; 06-26-03 at 07:26 AM.
Old 06-26-03, 12:12 PM
  #14  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Resource's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Saint Louis
Posts: 2,092
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
More nitromethane makes more horsepower with 49.5 per cent by weight pure oxygen, which liberates during combustion. It is also compatible with nitrous oxide. Adjustment to air/fuel ratio is most important. More that 1% nitromethane by volume will require increased fuel delivery, when used in gasoline.

Specific Gravity 1.13
Weight per Gallon 9.43 lbs.
Oxygen content 49.5%
Old 06-27-03, 09:17 AM
  #15  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
LT1RX7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 863
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool Resource I figured you knew what you were talking about just wanted to clear it up before someone that was uninformed did something stupid.
Old 06-30-03, 04:39 AM
  #16  
Junior Member

 
sweet series ii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: brisbane australia
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
with what was said before about going straight methanol, the thing with methanol is you have to use 3 times more than with pump fuel. so you are beter off using something like aviation fuel or c16 race fuel. but here in australia you need a C.A.M.S. liscence to by c16. i had a 75% methanol mix in my series 2 on the weekend and it made only a slight difference and was only noticeable high in the revs like up around 6000-7800 rpm.
DAVE
Old 06-30-03, 08:37 PM
  #17  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
10sec rx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,350
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
a 75% methenol mix with petrol would be pointless unless you retune for it and wind the boost up,

also you can buy c16 with a $40 andra fuel passport,

Dale
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Dudemaaanownsanrx7
Auxiliary Injection
18
02-26-12 05:55 PM
cyberxn
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
4
10-23-08 01:31 AM
81gsl12a
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
4
10-09-07 10:01 PM
Sgt.Stinkfist
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
14
08-28-04 09:26 PM
rotorbrain
Rotary Car Performance
1
07-15-04 10:29 AM



Quick Reply: Nitromethane



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:20 PM.