I would NEVER DO business with Sonix7
02-14-07, 04:33 PM
#76
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Here's the thread, quite a lot of drama.....bitch this, muthaphucka that 
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=carbon
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=carbon
Ahhhh now i see why XxMerlinxX was defending this guy. Man....you pick some winners to defend on here XxMerlinxX. Cant believe how crazy that guy went.
Reminds me of the Rico "slonsho" guy on here going after Heath! Friggen idiots...
02-14-07, 08:47 PM
#77
Phil I wanted to add my two cents worth here although I know it's really just side commentary at this point.
First off this guy's comments about following up with legal action against you is a joke. As you pointed out he does not even run a legitimate business. This also reminded me of comments Peter Farrell made to Gordon Monsen. We all know Peter who did have a legitimate business ended up losing it over his choice of business practices. Apples to Oranges but Peter's counter suit claimed defamation against GMonsen over things posted here on the forum and Peter lost his case. If you do something to upset your customer. They have every right to say so in a public forum.
That aside even to follow his logic that the work he did for you was done for "free". Who tries to pass off shitty work even if it is for free? My line of thought is if your going to offer to do it then do a good job otherwise don't waste my time. Not even getting into the fact that it took so long to receive anything out of the deal after you were essentially funding him with parts and supplies. There is a saying that goes like this "it is ten times easier to keep a current customer happy than it is to gain one new customer". I have run a full time legitimate business of my own before for a few years and what has transpired here with you Phil is not good business. This fellow has a long way to go to get on par with professional grade in more ways than one.
Honestly I am not surprised of the outcome of these pieces. I remember getting into a tiff with this guy a while back after he had posted some photos of his attempt to build some speaker box. It was pretty amature. I knew then that he was a novice at best and I told him so because he seemed to be under the impression that he was breaking new ground in subwoofer construction. I can understand that he definitely got in over his head on some of these projects. Regardless you don't drop the ball after making so many promises. In my opinion he should have told you from the begining that he would not be certain of the outcome and that he could make no promise as to when the parts would be complete. Or he should have done the work that he promised you, not half-***'d it and made it a priority to knock it out ASAP. Especially with the consideration that you seemed to be very supportive of his little business. The least he could have done would have been to return all your parts in the condition in which he received them.
At this point I imagine that you Phil do not really expect to gain anything from this after being put through the ringer. Good luck with the sale of those parts. I hope that you are able to recoupe some of your loss.
I would let this be a lesson to anyone else reading through this to be careful who you get involved with while wheeling and dealing here on the forum.
BTW Phil I'll build you new door panels for a set of rims.
Only kidding.
First off this guy's comments about following up with legal action against you is a joke. As you pointed out he does not even run a legitimate business. This also reminded me of comments Peter Farrell made to Gordon Monsen. We all know Peter who did have a legitimate business ended up losing it over his choice of business practices. Apples to Oranges but Peter's counter suit claimed defamation against GMonsen over things posted here on the forum and Peter lost his case. If you do something to upset your customer. They have every right to say so in a public forum.
That aside even to follow his logic that the work he did for you was done for "free". Who tries to pass off shitty work even if it is for free? My line of thought is if your going to offer to do it then do a good job otherwise don't waste my time. Not even getting into the fact that it took so long to receive anything out of the deal after you were essentially funding him with parts and supplies. There is a saying that goes like this "it is ten times easier to keep a current customer happy than it is to gain one new customer". I have run a full time legitimate business of my own before for a few years and what has transpired here with you Phil is not good business. This fellow has a long way to go to get on par with professional grade in more ways than one.
Honestly I am not surprised of the outcome of these pieces. I remember getting into a tiff with this guy a while back after he had posted some photos of his attempt to build some speaker box. It was pretty amature. I knew then that he was a novice at best and I told him so because he seemed to be under the impression that he was breaking new ground in subwoofer construction. I can understand that he definitely got in over his head on some of these projects. Regardless you don't drop the ball after making so many promises. In my opinion he should have told you from the begining that he would not be certain of the outcome and that he could make no promise as to when the parts would be complete. Or he should have done the work that he promised you, not half-***'d it and made it a priority to knock it out ASAP. Especially with the consideration that you seemed to be very supportive of his little business. The least he could have done would have been to return all your parts in the condition in which he received them.
At this point I imagine that you Phil do not really expect to gain anything from this after being put through the ringer. Good luck with the sale of those parts. I hope that you are able to recoupe some of your loss.
I would let this be a lesson to anyone else reading through this to be careful who you get involved with while wheeling and dealing here on the forum.
BTW Phil I'll build you new door panels for a set of rims.
Only kidding.
02-14-07, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
I would let this be a lesson to anyone else reading through this to be careful who you get involved with while wheeling and dealing here on the forum.
Phil, I'm sure you are already aware of this, but your not going to get anything whatsoever from Jason. Look at the link that Goodfella posted up. Jason is totally out of line. He just goes back and forth with useless comments that don't mean a damn thing! He is playing childish games with anyone that is willing to entertain him! It sucks, but this is one loss for the records. Just let everyone read your posts, and they will form their own conclusion. I don't think he is done screwing people over, cuz he constantly is trying to back his reputation up with nothing but lies, and false accusations.
Sooner or later, he will run into the wrong people, and let me tell ya, Karma is a bitch!!!! It WILL come back to bite him in the ***!
02-15-07, 12:50 AM
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thats not paint....
I dont feel like getting into the deal between both of them as much, but damn... I was going to get my 99 spec lip coated by sonic & possibly some other work. After seeing those pics It makes me think twice... Two things I can't stand in an internet transaction... long turn around time & bad quality. Although, everytime I have spoke with Sonic he has been honest & answered my questions.
02-15-07, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 7-sins
Although, everytime I have spoke with Sonic he has been honest & answered my questions.
This thread is exactly what it should be. Informative! People can make their own decisions. This just ensures that the truth be told!!! Pictures are worth a thousand words.......
02-15-07, 09:33 AM
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I wasn't going to add anything to this thread, but I suppose I should. Before I do please let me say that I am not trying to badmouth anyone, just stating my experience. I still have every PM from this period of dealing with Phil and Jason. Sorry for the huge post this is going to be, but I want to be as detailed as possible. Ok, it begins with me purchasing a genuine Feed CF UIM cover on 2/16/06. On 2/28/06, I get the following PM from Phil:
Here is my reply PM, and his response (Jasons address edited):
Ok, so the deal was I send him my feed cover, I get it back plus another one in my choice of carbon. Cool, no problem, and I send out the UIM . On 3/6/07 I get a PM from phil saying that Jason had recieved my UIM. Great, so Im thinking I should be expecting it back with my other one at the end of the month or so.
On 3/10 I shoot Jason an PM, just to say Hi since I had been dealing with Phil ,and see how his progress was going. Here is the PM that I recieved from Jason :
So now I guess I am only getting one UIM cover back, but whatever, I wasnt really doing this for free stuff, just helping out, plus he offered to do some other work, so I just tell him that as long as the one I get back was in the same or better condition than the original , Id be happy.
So thats the last I hear for a while, weeks go by, and I foget the specific thread, but Jason had told me that he had shipped back my new cover. I didnt get it so I gave him a PM of 4/4/06 to which he replied:
Again I hear nothing until 4/12/06, to which I get this PM:
From then on, I hear nothing until another PM from Jason on 4/22/06
Once again, I hear nothing back until a PM on 5/1/06:
On 5/4/06, I then get this PM:
OK, great I think , finally done. I had said I was in no huge rush, but I was expecting it at the end of March, it was now May and getting rediculous, but I was understanding of all his problems. But then another close to 2 weeks goes by without me hearing anything, so a bit frustrated I shoot him a PM, to which he replied on 5/12/06:
OK, Im getting a bit tired of quoting PMs, but I hope you guys can see that Im not lying or making anything up, so Im just going to go on from here on my own. I do have all additional PMs if they need to be posted. So on 5/13 he sends me another PM, showing pics of the UIM (with no mounting tabs), but says mounting tabs are on, its boxed up and ready to go. And then on 5-16, he PMs me and says that he shipped it UPS, and I will have it in a few days. SO I do get it, and upon opening it I was fairly disappointed. It had runs in the clear (resin, whatever it is), and the mounting tabs looked very cheap. Not really wanting to step on anyones toes, I just politely PMd him, told him I got it, looked good, but asked if I could please have my original Feed cover back. His reply was:
Then within a few days, I take Jason's UIM to my friend's body shop and ask him to do whatever he can to get the UIM to look good, so he keeps it overnight and completely buffs/polished it out for me, and it didnt look too bad after that. I then tried to put it on my FD, and it just will not fit. The mounting tabs dont even seem like they are in the correct position. After fighting with it for about an hour, I PM Jason asking him if he even test-fit before he sent it. He replied:
In reality it didnt even come close, hard to explain without a picture but the bolt holes werent the problem, the mounting tabs were too thick and it would not seat correctly. I ended up having to cut off all but 1 mounting tab to even get it to bolt on, and when it did, it sat entirely too high off the UIM, rubbng the hood. I have a hard time believing he had test-fit this before shipping to me. Either way, that was about the last time I talked to Jason, I was disgusted that I had basically lost a genuine feed UIM cover, and was left with something that didnt even fit. I was basically out the $300 or whatever it was that I had paid for the feed cover. Plus on top of all of it, what originally was supposed to take 3-4 weeks, took me over 2 months to get back, and it seems like it was constant excuse after another. If this is what Phil had to deal with the entire time, I can completely understand why he is so pissed. I would also like Jason to comment about the door panels, wtf is up with that? Just as a side note to Jason-
I think your work has potential, but it is not yet up to the quality alot of us expect. Also, while all your reasons for being late may be well-founded, we dont really care as a customer. Just tell us the correct dates. If it is going to take you 2 month, let us know up front and it will be no big deal, dont say a few weeks and then string us along with a PM every week or so with some reason why it hasnt shipped. I think you have (or did, however this pans out) the potential to be a really great asset to our community, but you just need to be up front with people, and work on the quality and fitment of the parts. You seemed like a nice guy just from the PMs, but that doesnt cut it when you are dealing with people's money and products, especially pissing off well known and respected members.
Originall posted by herblenny
Lenny,
I need to ask you something..
Do you think someone could borror your UIM you purchased from me??
I have a guy in CO who wants to make a mold of it and since I sold it to you and it will take some time for me to get another one, I figure I ask.
What he will do for you letting him borrow it, he will make you one out of any CF color or CF/kevlar.
Let me know asap as he needs one by end of this week. He will compensate you for shipping and such.
PHILIP SOHN
Lenny,
I need to ask you something..
Do you think someone could borror your UIM you purchased from me??
I have a guy in CO who wants to make a mold of it and since I sold it to you and it will take some time for me to get another one, I figure I ask.
What he will do for you letting him borrow it, he will make you one out of any CF color or CF/kevlar.
Let me know asap as he needs one by end of this week. He will compensate you for shipping and such.
PHILIP SOHN
Originall posted by herblenny
He would need it for about 2-3 weeks. He needs to make a mold, make a replica out of FG, than with CF.
He will send yours back with a replica. Let me know if you have preference on color or CF/kev.
Here is his address.. If you could send me the tracking number, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for let him borrow it.
Jason Evans
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PHIL
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Hey Phil,
Sure I would have no problem with that, especially if I get some free goodies from it. Any idea how long he will have it for? Let me know what I need to do for you.
-Lenny
Quote:
Originally Posted by herblenny
Lenny,
I need to ask you something..
Do you think someone could borror your UIM you purchased from me??
I have a guy in CO who wants to make a mold of it and since I sold it to you and it will take some time for me to get another one, I figure I ask.
What he will do for you letting him borrow it, he will make you one out of any CF color or CF/kevlar.
Let me know asap as he needs one by end of this week. He will compensate you for shipping and such.
PHILIP SOHN
He would need it for about 2-3 weeks. He needs to make a mold, make a replica out of FG, than with CF.
He will send yours back with a replica. Let me know if you have preference on color or CF/kev.
Here is his address.. If you could send me the tracking number, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for let him borrow it.
Jason Evans
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xxxx
xxxx
PHIL
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Hey Phil,
Sure I would have no problem with that, especially if I get some free goodies from it. Any idea how long he will have it for? Let me know what I need to do for you.
-Lenny
Quote:
Originally Posted by herblenny
Lenny,
I need to ask you something..
Do you think someone could borror your UIM you purchased from me??
I have a guy in CO who wants to make a mold of it and since I sold it to you and it will take some time for me to get another one, I figure I ask.
What he will do for you letting him borrow it, he will make you one out of any CF color or CF/kevlar.
Let me know asap as he needs one by end of this week. He will compensate you for shipping and such.
PHILIP SOHN
On 3/10 I shoot Jason an PM, just to say Hi since I had been dealing with Phil ,and see how his progress was going. Here is the PM that I recieved from Jason :
originally posted by Sonix7
Lenny, nice to finally speak with you. Yes I am Jason. Thanx for sending that over too me. I am already finished with it but have not made a new one yet. Probably tommorrow. Lenny I know you bought this one, but would you like a new one instead. This one is kind of roughed up after the sticker being gone and all. I was also thinking I could do something else small for you to show my appreciation for the favor? anyway LMK what you think, otherwise I will be sending that back as soon as possible. Nice to meet you Lenny.
JAson
Lenny, nice to finally speak with you. Yes I am Jason. Thanx for sending that over too me. I am already finished with it but have not made a new one yet. Probably tommorrow. Lenny I know you bought this one, but would you like a new one instead. This one is kind of roughed up after the sticker being gone and all. I was also thinking I could do something else small for you to show my appreciation for the favor? anyway LMK what you think, otherwise I will be sending that back as soon as possible. Nice to meet you Lenny.
JAson
So thats the last I hear for a while, weeks go by, and I foget the specific thread, but Jason had told me that he had shipped back my new cover. I didnt get it so I gave him a PM of 4/4/06 to which he replied:
originally posted by Sonix7
Lenny, sorry for the confusion. No I still have it here, I have to install the mounting brakets. I should be done within the next few days. I hope that is good with you. I have been super busy finishing up some of Phils parts I have had for a while. I will hit you back as soon as I send that. Thanx again Lenny. Also remember that I am giving you a discount on that other stuff for allowing me to borrow the cover. Have a good day
Jason
Lenny, sorry for the confusion. No I still have it here, I have to install the mounting brakets. I should be done within the next few days. I hope that is good with you. I have been super busy finishing up some of Phils parts I have had for a while. I will hit you back as soon as I send that. Thanx again Lenny. Also remember that I am giving you a discount on that other stuff for allowing me to borrow the cover. Have a good day
Jason
originally posted by Sonix7
Lenny, hey man hows life? I just wanted to touch basis with you on the UIM cover. I have been super busy holding down my other business and am not going to get much done until Sunday. I have yours coming along and should be done soon. I just have to make sure evrything is perfect. Takes a little time. I just wanted you to know that I have not forgotten about you and it should be coming soon. I will for sure send you a pic before I ship it back. Thanx again man. Take care.
Jason
Lenny, hey man hows life? I just wanted to touch basis with you on the UIM cover. I have been super busy holding down my other business and am not going to get much done until Sunday. I have yours coming along and should be done soon. I just have to make sure evrything is perfect. Takes a little time. I just wanted you to know that I have not forgotten about you and it should be coming soon. I will for sure send you a pic before I ship it back. Thanx again man. Take care.
Jason
originally posted by Sonix7
Hey Lenny, sorry about the hold up, I should have that out early this next week. I have had so much pile up on me and a little issue with getting CF cloth. I apologize for that and you should expect that in your hands by the end of next week. Lenny can you send your address to me again, so I have that. Also was there anything else you were interested in maybe I can do something for you being so nice and generous and patient with me. The mold was challenging, so I assume that had a little to do with the delay. Anyway I will have a tracking for you as soon as it ships. Thanx and talk to you soon. Take care.
Jason
Hey Lenny, sorry about the hold up, I should have that out early this next week. I have had so much pile up on me and a little issue with getting CF cloth. I apologize for that and you should expect that in your hands by the end of next week. Lenny can you send your address to me again, so I have that. Also was there anything else you were interested in maybe I can do something for you being so nice and generous and patient with me. The mold was challenging, so I assume that had a little to do with the delay. Anyway I will have a tracking for you as soon as it ships. Thanx and talk to you soon. Take care.
Jason
originally posted by Sonix7
Lenny, hey man whats up with you. Wanted to check in with you and LYK where we are at. I have been having the worst scheduling conflicts with the new baby and my other business, but give me a few more days and I should have something for you. The other issue was me having major problems with the mold release wax for the mold. It caused me to scrap two UIM covers. Obviously I am concerned with getting you one that is perfect and that is the only reason why you don't have it yet. Hope that works for you. I will be very shortly with a perfect one and some pics. LMK if you need anything or any questions you have. Take care.
Jason
Lenny, hey man whats up with you. Wanted to check in with you and LYK where we are at. I have been having the worst scheduling conflicts with the new baby and my other business, but give me a few more days and I should have something for you. The other issue was me having major problems with the mold release wax for the mold. It caused me to scrap two UIM covers. Obviously I am concerned with getting you one that is perfect and that is the only reason why you don't have it yet. Hope that works for you. I will be very shortly with a perfect one and some pics. LMK if you need anything or any questions you have. Take care.
Jason
originally posted by Sonix7
Lenny, good news brother. I made one for you and it turned out really nice. I will have this to you next week for sure. I will also have a pic for you tommorrow of the results. You should be impressed when you see it. Thanx for being so patient with me, this gets easier every time but can still be quite a bit of work to achieve perfect results. Thanx. Talk to you tommorrow sometime. Take care.
Jason
Lenny, good news brother. I made one for you and it turned out really nice. I will have this to you next week for sure. I will also have a pic for you tommorrow of the results. You should be impressed when you see it. Thanx for being so patient with me, this gets easier every time but can still be quite a bit of work to achieve perfect results. Thanx. Talk to you tommorrow sometime. Take care.
Jason
originally posted by Sonix7
Lenny, hey man. Everything is ready to go for you, but I didn't get done in time to ship yesterday. I am shipping it first thing Monday. I will see about a faster method, so it will get there sooner. I tried as hard as I could, but got real busy with my other business that I did not make it by Friday. I am not at my home cpu, so I will have to send a pic later of the finished product. So expect a UPS tracking number first thing early Monday. I hope that works, and think about the rest of the stuff you were interested in. I will be less overworked after the first of the month. I am really thankful to you for being so generous on the letting me copy that used one and for you being so patient with my ever changing schedule. I look foward to getting the rest done for you soon. Talk to you later. Take care.
Jason
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Hello again. Any update for me? You said Id have it by next week on the 4th.. Please give me some good news.
-Lenny
Lenny, hey man. Everything is ready to go for you, but I didn't get done in time to ship yesterday. I am shipping it first thing Monday. I will see about a faster method, so it will get there sooner. I tried as hard as I could, but got real busy with my other business that I did not make it by Friday. I am not at my home cpu, so I will have to send a pic later of the finished product. So expect a UPS tracking number first thing early Monday. I hope that works, and think about the rest of the stuff you were interested in. I will be less overworked after the first of the month. I am really thankful to you for being so generous on the letting me copy that used one and for you being so patient with my ever changing schedule. I look foward to getting the rest done for you soon. Talk to you later. Take care.
Jason
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Hello again. Any update for me? You said Id have it by next week on the 4th.. Please give me some good news.
-Lenny
originally posted by Sonix7
Lenny glad you got that. The original kind of got comprimised while in the molding process. Its not really in very good shape anymore that was why I was making one to replace it. Let me look and see if I can make it look good again and try and send that back to you. I hope that works for you and also remember I am hooking you up on anything else you want. I will do 20% discount. That is the largest discount I have ever considered, so when your ready that should make up for the original not really making it back. Also I may be able to make you another for keeps, but I am so busy for the next few weeks. So anyway, thats pretty much it. Anyway, I am here if you need anything. Take care.
Jason
Lenny glad you got that. The original kind of got comprimised while in the molding process. Its not really in very good shape anymore that was why I was making one to replace it. Let me look and see if I can make it look good again and try and send that back to you. I hope that works for you and also remember I am hooking you up on anything else you want. I will do 20% discount. That is the largest discount I have ever considered, so when your ready that should make up for the original not really making it back. Also I may be able to make you another for keeps, but I am so busy for the next few weeks. So anyway, thats pretty much it. Anyway, I am here if you need anything. Take care.
Jason
originally posted by Sonix7
Lenny, yes I actually made it specifically fit to my UIM cover and bolted it down. It is an extremely tight fit. There is really no other way, the original was worse, because the back mount was broke off. I elected to go with the two front mounts only. You might have to just take a drill and make the holes for the brackets a little bigger. It did fit on mine, but it will be a tight fit. I am thinking that even a milimeter difference between cars can make a difference. I apologize, like I said, I figured there would be no issues before I sent it. If you scuff it, you can simply buff it out and polish. If it twists a little to fit that is completely normal. It will fine. LMK what happpens, but if I remember correctly both bolts are a tight fit. Enlarging the bolt holes will solve the problem. Take care. If you have any other issues, grab a pic of it and I will see if we can get that fixed for you. Cool. Thanx. Have a good day.
Jason
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Hello, I had a few questions. Did you test fit this cover when it was completed? I tried to install it yesterday, and I cannot get it to fit. If I twist enough I can get the left most hole to go over the stud, but it is impossible for the nut to then thread on. It seems extremely tight and just doesnt seem to want to lay down straight. I actually flaked a bit of the CF off while trying to pry into place.
-Lenny
Lenny, yes I actually made it specifically fit to my UIM cover and bolted it down. It is an extremely tight fit. There is really no other way, the original was worse, because the back mount was broke off. I elected to go with the two front mounts only. You might have to just take a drill and make the holes for the brackets a little bigger. It did fit on mine, but it will be a tight fit. I am thinking that even a milimeter difference between cars can make a difference. I apologize, like I said, I figured there would be no issues before I sent it. If you scuff it, you can simply buff it out and polish. If it twists a little to fit that is completely normal. It will fine. LMK what happpens, but if I remember correctly both bolts are a tight fit. Enlarging the bolt holes will solve the problem. Take care. If you have any other issues, grab a pic of it and I will see if we can get that fixed for you. Cool. Thanx. Have a good day.
Jason
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Hello, I had a few questions. Did you test fit this cover when it was completed? I tried to install it yesterday, and I cannot get it to fit. If I twist enough I can get the left most hole to go over the stud, but it is impossible for the nut to then thread on. It seems extremely tight and just doesnt seem to want to lay down straight. I actually flaked a bit of the CF off while trying to pry into place.
-Lenny
I think your work has potential, but it is not yet up to the quality alot of us expect. Also, while all your reasons for being late may be well-founded, we dont really care as a customer. Just tell us the correct dates. If it is going to take you 2 month, let us know up front and it will be no big deal, dont say a few weeks and then string us along with a PM every week or so with some reason why it hasnt shipped. I think you have (or did, however this pans out) the potential to be a really great asset to our community, but you just need to be up front with people, and work on the quality and fitment of the parts. You seemed like a nice guy just from the PMs, but that doesnt cut it when you are dealing with people's money and products, especially pissing off well known and respected members.
Last edited by Rxmfn7; 02-15-07 at 09:58 AM.
02-15-07, 10:39 AM
#82
First of all, I would like to appologize to Lenny for introducing Jason to him.
Just as I stated before, I was mearly trying to help Jason and trying to track down parts for him.
Second, I would like to point out that at this point, Jason was suppose to work on Lenny's UIM and MY parts. As stated before, he promised to me he was going to finish my parts by DGRR 2006 and kept giving me excuses after excuses.... Then I stumble into this thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/new-fiberglass-unique-enclosure-3rd-gen-%2A%2Apics%2A%2A-524695/
Look at the date! 3/30/06! This is after Lenny send his part and a week or so before DGRR 2006.
So, he's working on his own car instead of OUR parts... at the same time, he's lying about the progress he's making on my parts and making false promises... to both me and Lenny. Quite sad actually...
So, have I provided enough facts to say this guy can't be trusted??
Jason, I know you are reading this.. So, do you still think you did all this stuff for free and I've provided nothing to you? You are NOTHING but lying pieces of **** that now hides behind a computer screen. I totally believe in Karma and it will come back and bite your ***... I think its already happening.. You should know, I know hell of alot more about you than you think.. I been kind of waiting for this moment and been doing a lot more research than you!.. You will hear from certain someone soon! Good luck when that happens.. I don't leave quitely and I certainly don't take **** from loser like you...
Just as I stated before, I was mearly trying to help Jason and trying to track down parts for him.
Second, I would like to point out that at this point, Jason was suppose to work on Lenny's UIM and MY parts. As stated before, he promised to me he was going to finish my parts by DGRR 2006 and kept giving me excuses after excuses.... Then I stumble into this thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/new-fiberglass-unique-enclosure-3rd-gen-%2A%2Apics%2A%2A-524695/
Look at the date! 3/30/06! This is after Lenny send his part and a week or so before DGRR 2006.
So, he's working on his own car instead of OUR parts... at the same time, he's lying about the progress he's making on my parts and making false promises... to both me and Lenny. Quite sad actually...
So, have I provided enough facts to say this guy can't be trusted??
Jason, I know you are reading this.. So, do you still think you did all this stuff for free and I've provided nothing to you? You are NOTHING but lying pieces of **** that now hides behind a computer screen. I totally believe in Karma and it will come back and bite your ***... I think its already happening.. You should know, I know hell of alot more about you than you think.. I been kind of waiting for this moment and been doing a lot more research than you!.. You will hear from certain someone soon! Good luck when that happens.. I don't leave quitely and I certainly don't take **** from loser like you...
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MOD hat off.
Here is something that quite honestly,...is pure laziness.
You have a FEED carbon UIM cover. BUT for Sonix7, it would be just as easy to REMOVE his own UIM to make HIS OWN MOLD!!!!
Why would anyone use a PRICEY product to replicate off of, when they have a 3rd gen sitting in their garage to make a mold from???
If anything, it is just as easy to BUY the UIMs as they are ALWAYS sold in the 3rd gen section.
So either Jason (aka Sonix7) doesn't have a 3rd gen OR he is too lazy to use his own car for prototyping purposes. Do you see the problem yet? All this time, Phil was supplying Jason w/ parts...when in some way shape or form, Jason should've had access to these parts. Heck, he could've found a local 3rd gen owner, from which to borrow/test fit parts on. Or lastly, he could've bought the parts (from a member, from a shop, from a junkyard) and use those to prototype from. Phil ended up shipping parts clear across the country!!!!
You have a composites manufacturer (sonix7) who can't make a mold? For crying out loud, he claims to vacuum bag his parts. If you can vacuum bag, you have enough expertise to be able to make a decent mold. Heck, a decent composites manufacturer should be able to make A mold!!!
This is what destroyed/warped the trunk pieces that no longer fit on Herblenny's car! Instead of making a mold of the part (when the part is pretty simple in design), and then laying your part in the mold...he just overlayed EVERYTHING! The mold could've been used as a permanent mold to make more parts!
I truly don't understand why molds were not made for simple parts. Parts like the lips, the trunk pieces, etc. Instead, an overlay was done, and thus destroyed/warped the parts.
What's more? (And I could be reminded of the wrong picture in this case) There is a picture of finished parts laying on the table after the wet-layup process. Guess what? Look at the surrounding area of that table. It is a garage! Not that this isn't wrong, but it is an ill-prepped garage for composites work!
The excessive resin isn't the problem. The lack of proper understanding of composites work is the problem. The lack of foresight/planning is the problem. The lack of a business plan or even investment in his own business (investment in parts from which to create proper molds) is the problem.
I may be on the sidelines observing this. I may be a bit vocal despite not having any financial transactions involving this. I even considered the possibility of doing business w/ Sonix7. But thankfully I didn't! Clearly, there is an inherent lack of foresight w/ the way his own business was run! I can do the composites work myself, and in the end...I may just do that. Because if this is the headache I would go through...it just isn't worth my time.
Sonix7 - CLEARLY you didn't have a sound business plan. This is something you ran out of your own home, which is fine IF you had a game plan. But you didn't. You didn't invest in your own business. You ran your "business" on minimal funds. And you lacked experience w/ what you were doing. It seems that your excitement over composites work (a possible hobby), turned into a job or burden for you. You hated it. Because of your minimal funds, you also clearly violated forum rules w/ becoming a vendor. You refused to become an authorized forum vendor. Despite this, you advertised your business in your sig.
Be a man and step up to the plate. Give Phil parts that are suitable for replacement.
BTW,...defamation doesn't apply in this case...no matter what you think.
Here is something that quite honestly,...is pure laziness.
You have a FEED carbon UIM cover. BUT for Sonix7, it would be just as easy to REMOVE his own UIM to make HIS OWN MOLD!!!!
Why would anyone use a PRICEY product to replicate off of, when they have a 3rd gen sitting in their garage to make a mold from???
If anything, it is just as easy to BUY the UIMs as they are ALWAYS sold in the 3rd gen section.
So either Jason (aka Sonix7) doesn't have a 3rd gen OR he is too lazy to use his own car for prototyping purposes. Do you see the problem yet? All this time, Phil was supplying Jason w/ parts...when in some way shape or form, Jason should've had access to these parts. Heck, he could've found a local 3rd gen owner, from which to borrow/test fit parts on. Or lastly, he could've bought the parts (from a member, from a shop, from a junkyard) and use those to prototype from. Phil ended up shipping parts clear across the country!!!!
You have a composites manufacturer (sonix7) who can't make a mold? For crying out loud, he claims to vacuum bag his parts. If you can vacuum bag, you have enough expertise to be able to make a decent mold. Heck, a decent composites manufacturer should be able to make A mold!!!
This is what destroyed/warped the trunk pieces that no longer fit on Herblenny's car! Instead of making a mold of the part (when the part is pretty simple in design), and then laying your part in the mold...he just overlayed EVERYTHING! The mold could've been used as a permanent mold to make more parts!
I truly don't understand why molds were not made for simple parts. Parts like the lips, the trunk pieces, etc. Instead, an overlay was done, and thus destroyed/warped the parts.
What's more? (And I could be reminded of the wrong picture in this case) There is a picture of finished parts laying on the table after the wet-layup process. Guess what? Look at the surrounding area of that table. It is a garage! Not that this isn't wrong, but it is an ill-prepped garage for composites work!
The excessive resin isn't the problem. The lack of proper understanding of composites work is the problem. The lack of foresight/planning is the problem. The lack of a business plan or even investment in his own business (investment in parts from which to create proper molds) is the problem.
I may be on the sidelines observing this. I may be a bit vocal despite not having any financial transactions involving this. I even considered the possibility of doing business w/ Sonix7. But thankfully I didn't! Clearly, there is an inherent lack of foresight w/ the way his own business was run! I can do the composites work myself, and in the end...I may just do that. Because if this is the headache I would go through...it just isn't worth my time.
Sonix7 - CLEARLY you didn't have a sound business plan. This is something you ran out of your own home, which is fine IF you had a game plan. But you didn't. You didn't invest in your own business. You ran your "business" on minimal funds. And you lacked experience w/ what you were doing. It seems that your excitement over composites work (a possible hobby), turned into a job or burden for you. You hated it. Because of your minimal funds, you also clearly violated forum rules w/ becoming a vendor. You refused to become an authorized forum vendor. Despite this, you advertised your business in your sig.
Be a man and step up to the plate. Give Phil parts that are suitable for replacement.
BTW,...defamation doesn't apply in this case...no matter what you think.
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Rxmfn7 - Lenny, you are being way to Fk'n nice. He totally screwed you, and you're saying your not trying to bad mouth anyone???? He fk'n deserves every bit of what you have to say!!!!! Let the Mf'er have it!!! Whatever you have to say, everyone needs to hear it. Everyone. Cuz it is honest people like you and Phil that get taken advantage of, and that is Fk'd up! I personally think his *** should get booted right off this forum!!!
The shitty thing is, is that a person like Jason will never understand the reasons behind all these posts. He will never understand what it is like to be honest, and truthful. Cuz he is a no good lying scammer!!!
Just look at all those pm's(lies/excuses) he sent you.........
"Well I didn't get them out today, but I'll get them out tomorrow. My other business took up my time, but I did get your pieces done, so I'll try to finish them up next week. And I test fit them, and they fit great, but you might have to hack and weld a little bit. But on my car they fit great. Just bend it till it fits. Oh, I destroyed your original, that is why I am going to give you 20% off. I don't normally consider that large of a discount, except you and phil are giving me so much free **** that I better make myself feel better and say i'm going to do something nice. Cuz I don't want you to think that I don't have your stuff done yet. Which I finished up today, and my other business distracted me, so I'll finish up with your pieces tomorrow, and get them shipped out next week for sure."
TOTAL FK'NG BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! Jason is a no good lying, scamming, unprofessional idiot.
The shitty thing is, is that a person like Jason will never understand the reasons behind all these posts. He will never understand what it is like to be honest, and truthful. Cuz he is a no good lying scammer!!!
Just look at all those pm's(lies/excuses) he sent you.........
"Well I didn't get them out today, but I'll get them out tomorrow. My other business took up my time, but I did get your pieces done, so I'll try to finish them up next week. And I test fit them, and they fit great, but you might have to hack and weld a little bit. But on my car they fit great. Just bend it till it fits. Oh, I destroyed your original, that is why I am going to give you 20% off. I don't normally consider that large of a discount, except you and phil are giving me so much free **** that I better make myself feel better and say i'm going to do something nice. Cuz I don't want you to think that I don't have your stuff done yet. Which I finished up today, and my other business distracted me, so I'll finish up with your pieces tomorrow, and get them shipped out next week for sure."
TOTAL FK'NG BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! Jason is a no good lying, scamming, unprofessional idiot.
02-15-07, 01:06 PM
#85
Originally Posted by herblenny
First of all, I would like to appologize to Lenny for introducing Jason to him.
Just as I stated before, I was mearly trying to help Jason and trying to track down parts for him.
Second, I would like to point out that at this point, Jason was suppose to work on Lenny's UIM and MY parts. As stated before, he promised to me he was going to finish my parts by DGRR 2006 and kept giving me excuses after excuses.... Then I stumble into this thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=524695
Look at the date! 3/30/06! This is after Lenny send his part and a week or so before DGRR 2006.
So, he's working on his own car instead of OUR parts... at the same time, he's lying about the progress he's making on my parts and making false promises... to both me and Lenny. Quite sad actually...
So, have I provided enough facts to say this guy can't be trusted??
Jason, I know you are reading this.. So, do you still think you did all this stuff for free and I've provided nothing to you? You are NOTHING but lying pieces of **** that now hides behind a computer screen. I totally believe in Karma and it will come back and bite your ***... I think its already happening.. You should know, I know hell of alot more about you than you think.. I been kind of waiting for this moment and been doing a lot more research than you!.. You will hear from certain someone soon! Good luck when that happens.. I don't leave quitely and I certainly don't take **** from loser like you...
Just as I stated before, I was mearly trying to help Jason and trying to track down parts for him.
Second, I would like to point out that at this point, Jason was suppose to work on Lenny's UIM and MY parts. As stated before, he promised to me he was going to finish my parts by DGRR 2006 and kept giving me excuses after excuses.... Then I stumble into this thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=524695
Look at the date! 3/30/06! This is after Lenny send his part and a week or so before DGRR 2006.
So, he's working on his own car instead of OUR parts... at the same time, he's lying about the progress he's making on my parts and making false promises... to both me and Lenny. Quite sad actually...
So, have I provided enough facts to say this guy can't be trusted??
Jason, I know you are reading this.. So, do you still think you did all this stuff for free and I've provided nothing to you? You are NOTHING but lying pieces of **** that now hides behind a computer screen. I totally believe in Karma and it will come back and bite your ***... I think its already happening.. You should know, I know hell of alot more about you than you think.. I been kind of waiting for this moment and been doing a lot more research than you!.. You will hear from certain someone soon! Good luck when that happens.. I don't leave quitely and I certainly don't take **** from loser like you...
Oh ya....he's reading this. sonix7=Last Activity: Today 01:07 PM
Can't wait to see if this moron is actually trying to sue ya Phil....that honestly would be hillarious! Come on Sonix7 say something...or is your man-gina hurting?
02-15-07, 01:48 PM
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I think he's new tackic is to contact all his customers and trying to make them post to make me look bad.. LOL!
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?p=6645661
I have a word of advice to you all falling for Jason Evans' tactic (jason's past customers).. You are wasting your time. I've been there and heard all his excuses.. And remember, most likely he used my materials to make your parts.. (as he told me back in Dec 06 that he cant do my parts because he didn't have enough CF. I bought him 10 yards than he couldn't get anymore CF.. probably recently.. But I highly doubt he got more..).
If you want the facts, just read this threads.
And again, thanks Travis, Dom, and rx7goomba. I greatly appreciate your continue support and understanding of my issues with Jason.. You guys sometimes say better than I can... Thanks!
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?p=6645661
I have a word of advice to you all falling for Jason Evans' tactic (jason's past customers).. You are wasting your time. I've been there and heard all his excuses.. And remember, most likely he used my materials to make your parts.. (as he told me back in Dec 06 that he cant do my parts because he didn't have enough CF. I bought him 10 yards than he couldn't get anymore CF.. probably recently.. But I highly doubt he got more..).
If you want the facts, just read this threads.
And again, thanks Travis, Dom, and rx7goomba. I greatly appreciate your continue support and understanding of my issues with Jason.. You guys sometimes say better than I can... Thanks!
02-15-07, 02:03 PM
#87
Originally Posted by DomFD3S
You have a FEED carbon UIM cover. BUT for Sonix7, it would be just as easy to REMOVE his own UIM to make HIS OWN MOLD!!!!
Why would anyone use a PRICEY product to replicate off of, when they have a 3rd gen sitting in their garage to make a mold from???
02-15-07, 05:10 PM
#89
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
Phil I wanted to add my two cents worth here although I know it's really just side commentary at this point.
First off this guy's comments about following up with legal action against you is a joke. As you pointed out he does not even run a legitimate business. This also reminded me of comments Peter Farrell made to Gordon Monsen. We all know Peter who did have a legitimate business ended up losing it over his choice of business practices. Apples to Oranges but Peter's counter suit claimed defamation against GMonsen over things posted here on the forum and Peter lost his case. If you do something to upset your customer. They have every right to say so in a public forum.
That aside even to follow his logic that the work he did for you was done for "free". Who tries to pass off shitty work even if it is for free? My line of thought is if your going to offer to do it then do a good job otherwise don't waste my time. Not even getting into the fact that it took so long to receive anything out of the deal after you were essentially funding him with parts and supplies. There is a saying that goes like this "it is ten times easier to keep a current customer happy than it is to gain one new customer". I have run a full time legitimate business of my own before for a few years and what has transpired here with you Phil is not good business. This fellow has a long way to go to get on par with professional grade in more ways than one.
Honestly I am not surprised of the outcome of these pieces. I remember getting into a tiff with this guy a while back after he had posted some photos of his attempt to build some speaker box. It was pretty amature. I knew then that he was a novice at best and I told him so because he seemed to be under the impression that he was breaking new ground in subwoofer construction. I can understand that he definitely got in over his head on some of these projects. Regardless you don't drop the ball after making so many promises. In my opinion he should have told you from the begining that he would not be certain of the outcome and that he could make no promise as to when the parts would be complete. Or he should have done the work that he promised you, not half-***'d it and made it a priority to knock it out ASAP. Especially with the consideration that you seemed to be very supportive of his little business. The least he could have done would have been to return all your parts in the condition in which he received them.
At this point I imagine that you Phil do not really expect to gain anything from this after being put through the ringer. Good luck with the sale of those parts. I hope that you are able to recoupe some of your loss.
I would let this be a lesson to anyone else reading through this to be careful who you get involved with while wheeling and dealing here on the forum.
BTW Phil I'll build you new door panels for a set of rims.
Only kidding.
First off this guy's comments about following up with legal action against you is a joke. As you pointed out he does not even run a legitimate business. This also reminded me of comments Peter Farrell made to Gordon Monsen. We all know Peter who did have a legitimate business ended up losing it over his choice of business practices. Apples to Oranges but Peter's counter suit claimed defamation against GMonsen over things posted here on the forum and Peter lost his case. If you do something to upset your customer. They have every right to say so in a public forum.
That aside even to follow his logic that the work he did for you was done for "free". Who tries to pass off shitty work even if it is for free? My line of thought is if your going to offer to do it then do a good job otherwise don't waste my time. Not even getting into the fact that it took so long to receive anything out of the deal after you were essentially funding him with parts and supplies. There is a saying that goes like this "it is ten times easier to keep a current customer happy than it is to gain one new customer". I have run a full time legitimate business of my own before for a few years and what has transpired here with you Phil is not good business. This fellow has a long way to go to get on par with professional grade in more ways than one.
Honestly I am not surprised of the outcome of these pieces. I remember getting into a tiff with this guy a while back after he had posted some photos of his attempt to build some speaker box. It was pretty amature. I knew then that he was a novice at best and I told him so because he seemed to be under the impression that he was breaking new ground in subwoofer construction. I can understand that he definitely got in over his head on some of these projects. Regardless you don't drop the ball after making so many promises. In my opinion he should have told you from the begining that he would not be certain of the outcome and that he could make no promise as to when the parts would be complete. Or he should have done the work that he promised you, not half-***'d it and made it a priority to knock it out ASAP. Especially with the consideration that you seemed to be very supportive of his little business. The least he could have done would have been to return all your parts in the condition in which he received them.
At this point I imagine that you Phil do not really expect to gain anything from this after being put through the ringer. Good luck with the sale of those parts. I hope that you are able to recoupe some of your loss.
I would let this be a lesson to anyone else reading through this to be careful who you get involved with while wheeling and dealing here on the forum.
BTW Phil I'll build you new door panels for a set of rims.
Only kidding.
Anyhow, I wanted to say I couldn't of said it better than you.
And I personally remember Jason emailing me asking if I knew you from this thread (the sub box thread) : https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=524695
As mentioned before, he obviously thought I was stupid thinking I couldn't put 2 and 2 together and found out he wasn't working on my parts but working on his 100+lb sub box.. LOL!
Anyow, I wanted to thank you for writing that. it sums up my situation very well.
Just so everyone knews, my tactic is working quite well. Yesterday morning this thread had 1500 or so views, Now, OVER 1800 (probably half of it is Jason)... Thats right Jason! You better go see your lawyer and tell them I'm ruining your so called, "Business"... or did you not go??.. just as I predicted.. LOL!..
02-16-07, 09:30 AM
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I did a quick search on the forum and I found these two posts..
First, Jason used to have a Tan interior!! LOL! So, I might of gotten his old tan door panels.. the ones he gave me had some little rips (I'll post pics this weekend)..
And then he say this...
He was telling someone how to convert tan to blk.. LOL! I guess it the stuff he used didn't work as well as he thought.
First, Jason used to have a Tan interior!! LOL! So, I might of gotten his old tan door panels.. the ones he gave me had some little rips (I'll post pics this weekend)..
Originally Posted by sonix7 12/2004
I need to know what is an effective way of repairing some scratches on my rear bins and a couple of tears in some vinyl on the inside. I am wondering if anyone knows a good way to fix these and make it look good again. if it helps I have the tan interior on a 93 fd. thanks to anyone that can help.
Originally Posted by sonix7 6/2006
You need SEM classic coat vinyl/leather paint, also VHT vinyl dye. It will work awesome with no scratching and you can't rub it off for soft vinyl apps. (door panels, headliner, etc) because its a dye that changes the color of what your spraying. Now with the hard plastic you will need to paint it and then clear coat it, don't use anything but VHT or SEM. VHT for soft vinyl and leather, SEM for hard plastics. Plastic adhesion promotor will be key in this working right. After you get the clor sprayed and good then SEM has 3 different luster clears for this specific app. Here is a link to the VHT stuff I used http://www.caswellplating.com/vht/vht_spec.htm 2nd one down. I also use SEM products with awesome results for hard plastic. Their vinyl prep and cleaners are impairative in the process. http://www.sem.ws/product.php?product_id=242 Good luck. 
02-16-07, 09:52 AM
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Or It could be these tan panels...
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=481833
Funny thing... I still haven't found any tan door panels forsale by Jason Evans (aks sonix7) on the forum... he sold pretty much everything on the forum... LOL!
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=481833
Originally Posted by speed7 11/16/2006
I have 2 skins that I don't need. decent condition tan. driver and pass. Is that something you are looking for?
The handles and vents are removed its just the trim I have lyin around.
The handles and vents are removed its just the trim I have lyin around.
Originally Posted by sonix7
done deal. found what I was looking for. Thanx to everyone.
02-16-07, 12:15 PM
#95
Originally Posted by fikren
He did sell them, the guy paid with a rx8 shift ****, defi guage, cf cloth, resin, misc parts, etc, etc, etc.
-Jonathan
-Jonathan
Anyhow, I found another facts that Jason provided me with...
This was back in Dec. 5th, 2005.. when I asked him about doing 20b 3rd gens whole interior.. Look at what he quoted and let me know if he lied in his previous post or not.. lol! also remember that I've already sent 3 boxes of stuff at this point.
Originally Posted by sonix7
Wow, so 20B wants basically the whole surround interior, including door panels, rear b panels and map pocket? or speaker? doesn't really matter, rear divider. right? Tell 20B that I would obviouly give him a better deal if he did it all at once. I also can make sure the weave is straight and uniform throughout with all pieces in front of me. Just like the hood guy, it’s the most important part and takes the most skill, laying the fabric. So I will come up with a figure, but I got to think ask him if I do it for around $1000.00 would that be reasonable? Let him know that it would be a huge job.
02-16-07, 12:49 PM
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herblenny, would you please tell me how many mounting tab should be on the UIM cover? I bought it from him few month back. I check it again last night, I only saw one mounting tab.
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Originally Posted by sherman2k
herblenny, would you please tell me how many mounting tab should be on the UIM cover? I bought it from him few month back. I check it again last night, I only saw one mounting tab.
HAH - another soon to be satisfied customer!!!!!!
02-16-07, 02:17 PM
#98
Originally Posted by sherman2k
herblenny, would you please tell me how many mounting tab should be on the UIM cover? I bought it from him few month back. I check it again last night, I only saw one mounting tab.