I would NEVER DO business with Sonix7
06-06-07, 11:57 PM
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I'll post some pictures of work he did for me.
I feel he did a very nice job and Jason was very easy and friendly to work with. I had some slight issues at first, but he was MORE than willing to make sure the situation was positively resolved.
I admit that I have some issues with what happened here, but I'll just reserve judgment and hope things get resolved peacefully.
06-07-07, 12:17 AM
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Again, Lets see if he's man enough to do that.. I asked this back in Aug.2006, thru JOE in Feb. 2007...
By the way, you could return everything (Defi gauge, Shiftknob, door panels, 99 lips, 93 R1 lip,etc...) minus the CF.. that you used it on other people's parts so, thats fine
I'll even tell you you don't have to replace any defective parts you've sent me... Just return what I gave you.. I think this is VERY reasonable??
And especially, you still think you did all the stuff for FREE, you shouldn't have any issue sending these parts back.
This I wrote to, Joe Mirabile
By the way, you could return everything (Defi gauge, Shiftknob, door panels, 99 lips, 93 R1 lip,etc...) minus the CF.. that you used it on other people's parts so, thats fine
I'll even tell you you don't have to replace any defective parts you've sent me... Just return what I gave you.. I think this is VERY reasonable??
And especially, you still think you did all the stuff for FREE, you shouldn't have any issue sending these parts back.
This I wrote to, Joe Mirabile
06-07-07, 12:23 AM
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I do not think it is reasonable at this point. Your guess of 1k, as I stated before has now cost him way over this amount. I may have missed it, but did you end up selling those parts Jason made in the for sale section? We tried to help, it failed, let it go Phil, you have so many other good things to do. All the time you are wasting re-posting the things above...put it towards something else, like a national Rx7 meet in august. Just let it go.
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06-07-07, 06:23 AM
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Again, 1.5 years for 10-15 small pieces of overlayed oem stock parts is just obscene!
I hope some of you could NOW see that I did infact tried to resolved this ISSUE WAY before I recieved the tan door panels...
Also, I hope some of you understand that my intention from the start was good... which was to help this guy start a business!!! I know Brian and some of you questioned my ethics and stated HOW bad of a person I am.. But who in the WORLD would spend over 12 months conversing, giving advice, sending in thousands of dollars in parts, Free Advertisement, finding parts for their personal car, Turning down FREE work (by buying supplies, parts, etc), finding parts for them to make mold for so jason could sell, helping with jason's company logo, editing his pics, writing protocols for taking door handles, door panels.. Seriously, if I didn't understand about running a small business nor trying to help this guy, would I do ALL THAT??
Before another name calling starts, PLEASE take your time to know what I do for this community... I have ran 3 years of DGRR where I spend 100s of hours and my personal money so this community could come closer, I lend tools to local rotary owners, I help local rotary owners wrench their car, I give advice to local and pretty much thru out US, I let people try out different rotary parts, give parts away, etc... I'm pissed at Jason because he refused to fix what was wrong for months!! ITS All there, what I just showed above..
Months I asked him to fix what went wrong.. Months I asked to just send the parts back.. Again, after he does nothing, all he does is make false claims.. Ive stated here, nothing but facts. Look at the title, "I would NEVER DO business with Sonix7", aka Jason Evans. As a rotary enthusiast who's always helped people on this forum, I wanted to share what happened so no one else would go thru this "SCAM". Obviously some of you can't see that?? 1.5 years!! Yes, I'm PISSED.. I'm pissed some of you listen to this jackass and refuse to listen what I been saying and calling me names... Yes, I do have a hard head but I believe I rightfully have reasons too..
06-07-07, 07:48 AM
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Joe, you know why it all came to this level..
This is what Jason sends me just after I post about what he did to me after sending the tan door panels to me....
I laughed at this!!! Because, I only stated the facts!
Then you know, he made the first cracked at me about making a lawsuit.. Which I counter acted by telling him that I'll call the IRS.. LOL!
I think those who read this on my build thread (which most of the content were erased) know more about how all this happened.. Because Jason
1. denied about the quality of parts and lied telling me how great they were,
2. denied I been trying to work with him to just get my parts back and get the defective parts compensated,
3. he denied not recieving parts I've bought for him and money I've given him for almost a year,
4. he delayed and delayed sending parts back (overlayed or not) and gave me endless false dates and excuses
5. And finally he lied about supposely my overlayed door panels peeling and sending a tan panel which he has stated on the forum and to me about how he was able to convert a tan panel using vinyl spray paint..
All above I've mentioned are facts!! I was mearly correcting what Jason outright lied on this thread and other threads about what really happened. Hence this crazy long thread.. Jason ruined himself by not correcting his mistakes and lying... If my way of defending myself from his lies is wrong, then be it!
I'll post this... again... as you were the one trying to mediate this..
Again, Since this started, he had the chance to make it somewhat.. RIGHT!
LOL!
This is what Jason sends me just after I post about what he did to me after sending the tan door panels to me....
Originally Posted by Jason 2/11/2007
Phil, I would like to remind you of something. Please cease and desist your personal agenda against me over the internet.
In law, defamation is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against criticism.
The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and libel (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast), each of which gives a common law right of action.
"Defamation" is the general term used internationally, and is used in this article where it is not necessary to distinguish between "slander" and "libel". Libel and slander both require publication. The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. If it is published in more durable form, for example in written words, film, compact disc and the like, then it is considered libel.
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slander_and_libel
Thank you.
Jason Evans
In law, defamation is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against criticism.
The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and libel (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast), each of which gives a common law right of action.
"Defamation" is the general term used internationally, and is used in this article where it is not necessary to distinguish between "slander" and "libel". Libel and slander both require publication. The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. If it is published in more durable form, for example in written words, film, compact disc and the like, then it is considered libel.
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slander_and_libel
Thank you.
Jason Evans
I laughed at this!!! Because, I only stated the facts!
Then you know, he made the first cracked at me about making a lawsuit.. Which I counter acted by telling him that I'll call the IRS.. LOL!
Originally Posted by jason from my build thread in 2/2007
sonix7
I have every page and every statement in print and am meeting with my lawyer in a few hours, Hope your ready?
I have every page and every statement in print and am meeting with my lawyer in a few hours, Hope your ready?
1. denied about the quality of parts and lied telling me how great they were,
2. denied I been trying to work with him to just get my parts back and get the defective parts compensated,
3. he denied not recieving parts I've bought for him and money I've given him for almost a year,
4. he delayed and delayed sending parts back (overlayed or not) and gave me endless false dates and excuses
5. And finally he lied about supposely my overlayed door panels peeling and sending a tan panel which he has stated on the forum and to me about how he was able to convert a tan panel using vinyl spray paint..
All above I've mentioned are facts!! I was mearly correcting what Jason outright lied on this thread and other threads about what really happened. Hence this crazy long thread.. Jason ruined himself by not correcting his mistakes and lying... If my way of defending myself from his lies is wrong, then be it!
I'll post this... again... as you were the one trying to mediate this..
Originally Posted by me, email to Joe Mirabile 2/13/2007
he mentions FREE...
If he truely feels it was free.. then ask him to compensate for all the parts I've bought for him.
Just doing that, I will call it even.. Even the time I've spend. Otherwise, he needs to stop saying FREE. He did Zero favors for me at the end.
Hope this make sense to you, as FREE doesn't apply to what he did to me.
PHILIP SOHN
If he truely feels it was free.. then ask him to compensate for all the parts I've bought for him.
Just doing that, I will call it even.. Even the time I've spend. Otherwise, he needs to stop saying FREE. He did Zero favors for me at the end.
Hope this make sense to you, as FREE doesn't apply to what he did to me.
PHILIP SOHN
Again, Since this started, he had the chance to make it somewhat.. RIGHT!
LOL!
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06-07-07, 11:17 AM
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You guys now have read the actual emails... Now lets see Jason's Lies..
Classic! I begged to do this for me when he was the one who contacted me to get info about how to do CF overlay... LOL!
Here is other emails he sent about how he owes me and such and asking me to send parts.. Its just funny!
And Jason was the one who talked about sponsoring me and such.. so, was I begging??
More quotes... this is about how his stuff doesn't lift.. wait but the door panels did?
And here... This is his best work?? he never said he will replace it?? yikes..
Originally Posted by sonix7 2/13/2007
I made a big mistake with Phil and that was offering to anything for free. When he got the free parts, he changed.
Originally Posted by Jason via email 2/13/2007
I made a mistake in ever offering any free parts to anyone. I wanted to help and I got myself way in over my head.
Originally Posted by Jason
He never paid any money? Where are the receipts? Actually its not obvious. I never did what Phils claims. If he wanted to get this fixed he should have contacted me, before he has decided to ruin me I would have made right what was my fault if that was the case. Phil chose not to do anything but defame me and make false claims. Its your word against mine. Show me proof that I did what you said and I will fix it. HE GOT THIS FOR NOTHING? Stop telling false statements and move on like you said.
Originally Posted by Jason
Unless you pay me for the work and hours I spend nose to the grind, then its not yours.....this one guy that got everything for free! Bottomline is you have several parts that are worth a lot to me, I have nothing but a shiftknob and gauge and you trying to bury me? BTW where is the receipts that show you paid any money to me.
Originally Posted by Jason
When the finance got to high for me to do Phil's parts for free anymore, I was very honest and asked him to help and that I no longer had any money for his project. He pressured me to get them done and offered no help, I tried to finish up and call it a loss. I never mix and match parts and don't ever use someone elses parts unless they give me permission (like Phil). I treated Phils parts like everyone elses.
Originally Posted by jason 3 days ago
Check this out. I am little tired of people throwing around the word "business". First of all you have no idea what you are talking about. This is PERSONAL. Phil has chose to carry this personal vendetta out against me. There was never a business transaction. This guy begged me to do his parts. HE NEVER GAVE ME ANY MONEY TO PAY FOR ANYTHING. Go ahead and keep ignoring that. Who has asked Phil to show where he paid me for anything. ME, not some other claims? Phil is not getting **** from me. He has done far more damage to me than can ever be repaid. Who's going to repay me? WHERE"s the reciept's buddy. You are making claims and thats all your doing. Your story against mine.
Here is other emails he sent about how he owes me and such and asking me to send parts.. Its just funny!
Originally Posted by Jason emailed 12/01/2005
Man, I seriously am in debt to you for that ****, I hope I can repay these favors. I think you will be blown away by my finished work so hopefully that will be worth something to you. Plus I am going to help make your FD one of the most unique and awesome in my opinion. Its gonna be like a killer bee, or killer FD? good hook for the mag article. Anyway I am going back out to the cold *** dungeon garage to finish one piece I have, the stereo panel. Then its curing and sanding and clearing. Can not wait. you have no idea. anyway get well. talk to you soon oh and hear is the addy. Don't forget your pieces and whatever else.
Originally Posted by Jason 12/4/2005
I wish you were closer, we could work together too. I envision I will sponser you and you can work with me in that capacity and always garner a deep discount on my work. Likw I said we can talk about that, I might use your car as my poster car, along with my own. Two BB, completely custom. I love it. so will everyone else.
Originally Posted by Jason 12/2/2005
I am pleased to say the least. Air bubbles and lifting are a thing of the past.
This is a matter of opinion. Phil feels a certain way and is making a lot of far fetched claims in reply to that. I spent months and thousands of my own dollars to get Phil 20+ parts, all custom. There were agreements and arrangements made for the project. I am not going to sit here and defend myself against a bunch of people that are intent on bashing me. I do what I do, its never been a secret. ........I am not going to loose sleep over this because this guy was not happy with my best work. I did my best and I am not sorry for that. I am not going to make excuses for anything. This thread is a personal vendetta. THIS GUY NEVER CONTACTED ME TO FIX THIS IN THE PROPER MANNER. Regardless, the damage is done. All I have seen is a bunch of far fetched claims and a few shotty pics. I never told Phil I would replace stuff if he was not satisfied. None of the parts were new. Some were very damaged.Oh well! The fact of the matter is, Phil could never repay me for the damage that is done. Its over. This is BS that I am sitting here defending myself for doing my best and slaving over those parts for this guy. I lost a huge amount of money and time in the process.....
06-07-07, 11:27 AM
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Just so some of you know what I did for this guy.. THis is what I said to him back in 12/5/2005...
As I've proved so far, thats exactly what I did..
Who knew someone I helped would later say I didn't help... and later convincing someone else that I don't help nor know about people running small businesses.. LOL!
He wrote back..
Again, I wasn't begging him to do my work.. I already was making Feed side skirts and had resources here in AL to do so.. Just wanted to help this guy..
This is still my favorite...
LMAO!! Its his story again... his story..
Originally Posted by ME 2/5/2005
I totally trust you and I think we share many things in common.
Amazingly I trust you and want to help you suceed. Trust me, I don't
usually send parts, answer emails, or doing graphic stuff to just
anyone.
Amazingly I trust you and want to help you suceed. Trust me, I don't
usually send parts, answer emails, or doing graphic stuff to just
anyone.
Who knew someone I helped would later say I didn't help... and later convincing someone else that I don't help nor know about people running small businesses.. LOL!
He wrote back..
Originally Posted by jason 12/7/2005
I got you. Yeah I really saw that in you when you were kind enough to help me when I was training myself to do this. You really have been with me the whole way. Supporting me and all that. It is invaluable and I hope that I can do justice to the effort you have put forth for me. You have already shown me your true colors and I like what I see, .... I think character is a far better critria to judge people. I definitely don't take lightly your trust and confidence in me. Thanx it is fueling the fire. Peace.
This is still my favorite...
Originally Posted by Jason 3 days ago
There was never a business transaction. This guy begged me to do his parts. HE NEVER GAVE ME ANY MONEY TO PAY FOR ANYTHING. Go ahead and keep ignoring that. Who has asked Phil to show where he paid me for anything. ME, not some other claims? Phil is not getting **** from me. He has done far more damage to me than can ever be repaid. Who's going to repay me? WHERE"s the reciept's buddy. You are making claims and thats all your doing. Your story against mine.
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06-07-07, 12:25 PM
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I'm trying to give options and hope Chuck Westbrooks seminar will help those who truely wanting to learn about tuning instead of just hiring someone to tune.. Do you really think I'm hurting the community by doing so?? BDC acted the way he did and I'm sure him being a professional knew what some consequences might of been. As I stated in the other thread.. I don't go around my work calling people names as it could cause some issues..
Again, its an option and its something I been talking to local PFC owners for several months. If those who wanted a tune by BDC, that is their right.. I'm offering something different and people are very interested in this seminar. Hope this takes off and others around US will hire Chuck to do similar seminar in their regions.
06-07-07, 12:52 PM
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Wait, I think... yeah NOW I see it. For some reason, your halo wasn't showing up earlier, but it's there now. It might've been hidden behind the DGRR card you keep pulling out, that could've been what it was. Wow, I can't imagine why anyone would be upset about you planning another tuning event to try to ruin Brian's trip, I totally take back everything I said earlier. I see what happened now. He very eloquently tried to interject here, offering a reasonable difference of opinion. Yeah, that guy definitely got what he had coming to him. AND he called you childish. Bet he won't do that again, haha! Alright, well now that we've got this all cleared up, where can I send a donation for your statue? I hope it ends up being somewhere close to me so I can go and make sacrifices to it daily. Better yet, we should put a statue of you everywhere you've helped someone. They'll be like blades of grass sticking up in the morning sun! And then at DGRR, we'll carve one of the mountains into your very likeness! Man, looking forward to this, let me know about that donation.
06-07-07, 01:12 PM
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Who i do have a problem with is XxMerlinxX. He shouldnt constantly follow Phil around and bash him on everything he posts. Last time he did that....he sent out somes threats...and got his *** a ban for it. Yes Phil is a personal friend of mine and i will goto bat for him.
Hell go look at what XxMerlinxX bitched and moaned about for a $64 din plate!
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602363
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=650060
That pretty much sums up my thoughts on XxMerlinxX. He just needs to leave Phil alone considering he has no room to judge him by the way he's acted in the past against him and various other members on this forum.
Hell go look at what XxMerlinxX bitched and moaned about for a $64 din plate!
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602363
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=650060
That pretty much sums up my thoughts on XxMerlinxX. He just needs to leave Phil alone considering he has no room to judge him by the way he's acted in the past against him and various other members on this forum.
Ive talked to Akiratdk and heard his side of the story...
You might want to go deal with your own problems.. I stayed away after our incident and I would appreciate that if you would give me the same courtesy.
06-07-07, 01:23 PM
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Well that's a fresh approach, I was thinking you were going to post up more pictures in an attempt to shy away from the subject at hand. Kind of like, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" But this is much better. Well since you're so concerned about my own affairs, you can read this https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602363 and see that everything's been cleared up. But about those statues, I was thinking gold at first, but that's so overdone. How does platinum suit you? Oh and I've spoken to the Pope, he said Sainthood isn't out of the question. 
06-07-07, 01:50 PM
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Well that's a fresh approach, I was thinking you were going to post up more pictures in an attempt to shy away from the subject at hand. Kind of like, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" But this is much better. Well since you're so concerned about my own affairs, you can read this https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602363 and see that everything's been cleared up. But about those statues, I was thinking gold at first, but that's so overdone. How does platinum suit you? Oh and I've spoken to the Pope, he said Sainthood isn't out of the question.
I don't know you and I have nothing against you, but someone has to step up and show some common sense and know when to say when. Why can't that be you?
06-07-07, 01:52 PM
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Well that's a fresh approach, I was thinking you were going to post up more pictures in an attempt to shy away from the subject at hand. Kind of like, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" But this is much better. Well since you're so concerned about my own affairs, you can read this https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602363 and see that everything's been cleared up. But about those statues, I was thinking gold at first, but that's so overdone. How does platinum suit you? Oh and I've spoken to the Pope, he said Sainthood isn't out of the question.
Funny how its ok to get pissed off when it happens to you. Your insight really doesnt mean much considering your past history. Let it go.
06-07-07, 01:55 PM
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XxmerlinxX
It is obvious that the two of you butt heads. And the two of you agreed to stay out of each other's threads. Please discontinue any more comments in this thread.
Likewise to ALL other members. Please discontinue commenting on XxmerlinxX's posts in this thread.
Those issues ARE NOT involved in this thread. If you want to discuss that, start a new thread.
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It is obvious that the two of you butt heads. And the two of you agreed to stay out of each other's threads. Please discontinue any more comments in this thread.
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Those issues ARE NOT involved in this thread. If you want to discuss that, start a new thread.
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06-07-07, 06:16 PM
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Dom told me I needed to tone down my remarks, so I will. Guess that means no statue Phil, sorry. In all honesty, this thread probably needs to get locked. It's obvious neither side intends to do anything else about the situation, so further debate on the matter is a moot point. It'd also probably further help to curb the collateral damage, i.e. Brian's business, that might continue if this goes on for much longer.
06-07-07, 07:09 PM
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Dom told me I needed to tone down my remarks, so I will. Guess that means no statue Phil, sorry. In all honesty, this thread probably needs to get locked. It's obvious neither side intends to do anything else about the situation, so further debate on the matter is a moot point. It'd also probably further help to curb the collateral damage, i.e. Brian's business, that might continue if this goes on for much longer.
You just dont learn do you? Amazing
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This thread is ruined. I'm locking it. Some comments were off-topic or needed to be in another thread. Please contact sonix7 to see if the two of you can come to a resolution. Everyone knows the problems as stated.
But as of this moment, I'm killing this thread.
If you wish to keep us updated of any progress (or non-progress), please do so in a NEW thread. I don't think you need to repost every thing that was said here. Maybe make it easier on yourself and just link this thread.
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DO NOT bring up another forum member's personal or professional life into a thread (unless they specifically mention it). I consider this to be an attack, and I will issue a BAN as necessary. This will give an individual enough time to cool off and come back to the forum when they are ready.
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This thread is ruined. I'm locking it. Some comments were off-topic or needed to be in another thread. Please contact sonix7 to see if the two of you can come to a resolution. Everyone knows the problems as stated.
But as of this moment, I'm killing this thread.
If you wish to keep us updated of any progress (or non-progress), please do so in a NEW thread. I don't think you need to repost every thing that was said here. Maybe make it easier on yourself and just link this thread.
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