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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:03 PM
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it's just too bad that the piston lovers banished it from the one place that the rotary engine truly shines, on the track.
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tegheim
very cool video, it's funny how they make everything look so easy to do hahahahah.

this is one of my favorite videos of the 787
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqQEAfPnhio
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Have made my own tool for the little jack into the loosen shaft-parts. Don't know the english word for it.

3.40mm wide and 5.70mm deep. Then put an insert for a lathe there, tada!





Have made my own tool for the little jack into the loosen shaft-parts. Don't know the english word for it.

3.40mm wide and 5.70mm deep. Then put an insert for a lathe there, tada!




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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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After having seen the 787B run in person, those videos don't even scratch the surface of how awesome it sounds. Very nice work, I hope yours is just as good!
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
it's just too bad that the piston lovers banished it from the one place that the rotary engine truly shines, on the track.
who banished it?

I always wondered why Mazda never used that engine again...

Then again if they kept making it, this cool thread probably wouldn't exist so meh
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Osirus9
who banished it?

I always wondered why Mazda never used that engine again...

Then again if they kept making it, this cool thread probably wouldn't exist so meh
Read On
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_7...urs_of_Le_Mans
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 03:35 AM
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This picture maybe help you all understand what I'm about to try out.
This is an 20B-front just for show.

I will now make an fixture to hold the same of mine, the with the spindle off, cut about 0.1mm at time i stages untill i got the right keyway.

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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 05:12 AM
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First attempt!

Have done a keyway in a test-piece. Works fine! And now I will continue with the fixture for the real deal...

Movie on the way!





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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZqUQ_jJn8
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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Nice work Tony
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 03:59 AM
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Time for a little update!
Sadly my HTC Desire isn't the best camera in workshop-lights...

Have finally got along with the Keyway!

First, I did new irons to the vise (correct name? Google translate)
They are mounted from the inside with M10-bolts



A hole at 43.61mm, and an Radius 6.0mm to give clearance for Radius 5.0mm on the eccentric.
This is not bored, so the surface is just roughed yet.




Exact precision!




Like a glove!




Indication of a cam, I have my zero point where I did the fixture, so then you have easy track of the eccentric theory should lie on the X 15.0mm Y0.0mm.




A final inspection of the tool. Indicates the track of the tool in the X-axis, thus I know that it is angled precisely 90grd.
Using the M-code M19 in the machine, so I lock the spindle in the same place every time.




This is what working out, it will actually go much faster, when the cutting speed in such a cut is about 80-120m/min, ie as soon as it will go through the material. Easy as it spins to get the cutting speed, but now the cut stands still. So I drive 2m/min or F2000.0 as many may know. Takes just 0.1mm per insert to avoid accidents in my fine pieces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqGoEAxAFRQ



Results! Keyway on 5.00-5.01mm width, and depth with little clearance.

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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 05:14 AM
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Your fabrication is awesome! Impressive every time.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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looks awesome! and yes, a vice is what we call it.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Simply incredible! Thanks for the updates, it's fascinating to see what goes into a project of this level!
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Its hilarious because I feel like a little kid that can't read looking at a grown up book with pictures in it.. lol. Great stuff!!
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 11:57 PM
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SolidWorks is an hard program to learn...
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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It sure is fun though I work with AutoDesk Inventor for my job and have always considered modeling up the parts of the motor & engine bay to aid in making my own custom parts down the line. I just don't have that much free time and all the measuring would be extremely labor intensive. What have you been using for your measurements of the various rotary parts? Do you have drawings that you've been working from? or have you been using a CMM or laser scanner? or what?
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by He's On Toroids
What have you been using for your measurements of the various rotary parts? Do you have drawings that you've been working from? or have you been using a CMM or laser scanner? or what?
I have made all measurements by hand with callipers, micrometer and sometimes I used the machine with an 3D-taster or Touch-probe
That takes time, but it's fun!
I have never seen any drawings for the rotary-engine, but it would be fun to get one



Tonight I made a little keyway in the crank, which corresponds to the ones I did in the eccentric.

A male cutter, one must have ...


Important to buckle without moving it!


Finished setup.


work work


That did it! The track is 5.01 mm wide and 43.5 mm long.
Easy to forget compensation for the shaft shall be grinded then when you set the depth.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 06:48 AM
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tegheim
First, I did new irons to the vise (correct name? Google translate)
The term you want is jaws.

Also, just because it's a really cool process, the way you cut the keyway is a variant on what, in English, is called broaching. That is a really clever way to use your mill to cut a keyway.

Amazing work so far, can't wait to see the finished product.
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Just for fun...


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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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that right there is what I live for haha. The smallest things that people may never see....
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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Today I made a decision... and ordered some material...




typical me... :S
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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Wow....
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