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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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Today I got tons done...I made a bracket for the secondary fuel rail and an adapter to be able to use the RX-8 primary fuel rail on the BRE engine. I also installed the intercooler and started routing the piping. The engine then went on the stand in preparation to being rebuilt and I checked fitment of the front cover which needed a bit of adjusting after all the welding. I then threw everything back on the engine to check fitment one last time. Now I will open the engine to swap the exhaust sleeves and potentially throw a few dowel pins in there although I am undecided on whether I will do that. Enjoy the pics...

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Starting with some angle aluminum...
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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will you shield the LIM from heat at all? the DP is awfully close to it and will heat up your intake charge.

Im amazed at all the great work you do Chris, I wish I had the tools you have!
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Woha, great. My renesis is compression ko in the second rotor and goes through my mind to make a swap ... of course no longer seems so easy.

I remember having read in a while SpainRX8 Club.

Regards Chris and Gonza.

Greetings from Barcelona.

PD:Mi english es terrible,lo se.
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Great read. Thanks for taking the time. Only thing I noticed throughout the build so far were those scary, fragile OMP lines. They might have actually broken while I was looking at them and I didn't see them on your to-do list. Here's the route I went years ago:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=omp
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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Small Update...after taking the engine apart and realizing that I would need to order a corner seal because one of them was cracked I decided to work on the front cover oil line. Because I machined the "galley" area to make clearance for the counterweight the oil that normally traveled through there could not do so any more. I welded the two ports shut and proceeded to route an external oil line to feeg oil to that small port that squirts at the counterweight/front bearing area. The catch is that it can't stick out too much or it will hit the A/C compressor... (this is a trick I actually learned from Galdi in PR) Now I just need to loop a line from one connector to the other...

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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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Today I finished the oil line for the front plate and got it all hooked up. Tomorrow I will get a new corner seal to replace the one that was cracked so I can put the engine back together. I'm shooting for an engine start ETA of mid to late next week...

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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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My missing corner seal finally came in and I put the engine together. I then started assembling everything onto it...front cover fit with new oil line perfectly...

The list of To Do's is slowly disappearing and turning into a "to get" list of final things I need before I can start the car (ie. Oil, belts...etc)

Cheers!

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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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Updated list of To Do's and new list of To Get's

To Do’s

Machine front cover (counterweight/alternator) - DONE
Machine Alternator Spacer to push fwd - DONE
Weld front cover - DONE
Front cover oil line - DONE
Machine front pulley spacer - DONE
Driver engine mount finish - STARTED
Pass engine mount finish - DONE
Finish LIM (cut, weld, holes etc) - DONE
Drill UIM bolt hole - DONE
Make Throttle body adapter-DONE!
Oil filter Pedestal (Used Modified RX-8 one) - DONE
Modify Water Pump Outlet - STARTED

Modify Oil pan
Make Alternator Pulley - DONE
Make Custom water pump Tensioner plate - DONE
Make Alternator Tension Arm - DONE

Relocate OEM ECU to Firewall
Install Wastegates - DONE
Make Downpipe - DONE
Make Wastegate dump - DONE
Fuel rail mod - DONE
Make/Modify Fuel lines - DONE (NOT NEEDED)
Make Turbo Oil lines - STARTED

Make Radiator cover plate
Water reservoir
Make radiator lines
Intercooler mount - DONE
Cut/Tack Intercooler piping - STARTED
Weld Intercooler piping - STARTED

Weld BOV
Replace exhaust sleeves - DONE
Make Ignition Bracket


To Get’s

Nuts/Washers - Manifold
Rubber Plug - water nipple by oil filler neck
O-rings Injector to Manifold
O-rings Injector to fuel rail
Water Hose - Small
Water Hose - Medium
Oil
Anti-Freeze
Alternator-A/C Belt
Water Pump Belt
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Nice
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 04:14 PM
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Today I got the injector install worked out and applied the heat shielding to the LIM.

I also finished working on the oil pan. Just as I expected, because the engine is shorter due to the different front cover, the RX-8 oil pan had the right shape but the front stuck out. A quick mock up allowed me to see that the Greddy oil pan has enough sealing area to still work properly so I proceeded to make some aluminum clamps that would essentially sandwich the engine to the oil pan. They came out great and they do their job beautifully, providing a full seal all the way around.

Cheers!

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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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wow, looking greaaat brother!,
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Old Apr 22, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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wow, looking greaaat brother!,
Thanks! Glad you like it!

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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 08:30 AM
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Finished engine complete and will be throwing it into the car today...whoot whoot!

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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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ENGINE IS IN!

I started working on Intercooler Piping asap so I can be done with fabrication...so far so good...

Chris

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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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Wow. Best build thread I've read in a long time. Subscribed...
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Wow. Best build thread I've read in a long time. Subscribed...
I disagree to that, its a fine build but not the best. Sorry Chris its fine, but the build of John Huijben is better.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Shabba2
Wow. Best build thread I've read in a long time. Subscribed...
I appreciate your vote although Im sure a few guys have done quite a bit more impressive work...

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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by damic
I disagree to that, its a fine build but not the best. Sorry Chris its fine, but the build of John Huijben is better.
I agree...That build is nuts...but I was never trying to break any records...just a nice build for myself...

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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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Chris acaba de prenderlo ya!Awesome build bud!
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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I disagree to that, its a fine build but not the best. Sorry Chris its fine, but the build of John Huijben is better.
As I've not read that build thread, I stand by what I said. Best build thread I've read in a while. As most, I'm not a member of this forum only...I do have other cars and there haven't been builds this impressive on any of those forums in quite sometime.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Today I worked some more on the intercooler piping. All that's left is to install the 3" Wiggins Clamp that goes on the throttle body area and the BOV, then I'll be ready to weld all the aluminum. In case you guys haven't noticed, I ended up changing the intercooler to one with two exits on top which will help me keep the pipes relatively short and will also keep me from having to cut up my plastics in the radiator area.

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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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I know Chris, its impressive that you change the 13B-MSP engine to a 13B-REW and do a lot of custom work.

But you use no pieces of silicone hoses, reason for that?
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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I know Chris, its impressive that you change the 13B-MSP engine to a 13B-REW and do a lot of custom work.

But you use no pieces of silicone hoses, reason for that?
I think he is used to hearing that pop sound from the engine bay under high boost. This way it not only looks nice, but will hold together under high boost.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by damic
I know Chris, its impressive that you change the 13B-MSP engine to a 13B-REW and do a lot of custom work.

But you use no pieces of silicone hoses, reason for that?
The purple couplers are aerospace based units that replace silicone couplers. They offer flexibility, like silicone, while prohibiting "popping off" during boost. Its what race cars use commonly because it prevents hoses from popping off due to pressure.

They also look pretty

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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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ow ok, didn't know that, now I know.
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