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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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I'm calling out a Mad Anthonys nite, who's up for it
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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Saturday or a Sunday? If so, I can finally make them again as I'm working week days again.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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I'm calling out a Mad Anthonys nite, who's up for it
im down. not this weekend though.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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It was a blast as usual, but my coils fried while I was on the dyno.
I was already told by quite a few people that the LS1 coils were weak.
I couldn't rev it past 6000rpm cleanly.

I gotta figure out how I want to set-up my ignition system now.

what are your options? ive heard ls2 coils were better that ls1. why not just throw on some blaster coils or something like all the v8 guys like to rock?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rob81gsl
what are your options? ive heard ls2 coils were better that ls1. why not just throw on some blaster coils or something like all the v8 guys like to rock?
Steve told me the same thing about the ls2 coils.
He said they were better, but I was thinkin...how much better.
I got the ls1 coils because they had the built in ignitors so I could run direct fire.
I'm assuming the ls2 coils were the same, but could pack a bigger punch.
It's just that they aren't designed to work with our type of demand.
You know...the way the leading plugs never rest.

I'm looking into the electromotive ignition system.
Or a few other ballin *** systems that I'm gonna have to sell my one left ******** for.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Wait, one left ********? So you got two left *********? That's pretty pimp.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gohan3rdrift
Steve told me the same thing about the ls2 coils.
He said they were better, but I was thinkin...how much better.
I got the ls1 coils because they had the built in ignitors so I could run direct fire.
I'm assuming the ls2 coils were the same, but could pack a bigger punch.
It's just that they aren't designed to work with our type of demand.
You know...the way the leading plugs never rest.

I'm looking into the electromotive ignition system.
Or a few other ballin *** systems that I'm gonna have to sell my one left ******** for.
Are you talking LS1/LS2 coils as in the Chevy V8 LS1/LS2, or is that a rotary specific thingamajig? If you're talking about the V8 coils, check out the truck coils, they're the cats meow, the bee's knee's, the ying and the yang, etc etc
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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yeah thats what we are talking about. a lot of guys leach those guys onto a rotary. if im not mistaken the ls2 coils are stronger and smaller than the ls1's
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Thats crazy that they're frying then. LS1 coils have been taken way into the 8's and WAY over 1000whp on the LSx motors. And yes the LS2's are most certainly better than the LS1's, but the round truck coils (with the heat sink on them) blow the LS1&2's away. The LS1s have 40 milliamps of peak secondary current, where as the truck coils have 120milliamps. Plus with the heat sink they can tolerate alot more useage. Here's a nice article describing the differences:
http://www.megamanual.com/seq/coils.htm
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Thats crazy that they're frying then. LS1 coils have been taken way into the 8's and WAY over 1000whp on the LSx motors. And yes the LS2's are most certainly better than the LS1's, but the round truck coils (with the heat sink on them) blow the LS1&2's away. The LS1s have 40 milliamps of peak secondary current, where as the truck coils have 120milliamps. Plus with the heat sink they can tolerate alot more useage. Here's a nice article describing the differences:
http://www.megamanual.com/seq/coils.htm

note to self.....
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Good info Nick. Thanks.

The Leading plug fires twice per cycle because of the elongated combustion chamber, and it may have a hard time keeping up with that at higher rpms. That's my theory.

I'm seriously considering the LS2 or Truck coils now.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by aussiesmg
I'm calling out a Mad Anthonys nite, who's up for it
I agree. When we can everyone meet up?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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I'm running the msd truck coils on leading and std on trailing. I have like 6 left over . They are working pretty well, firing into the 9 afr at boost. What was the charge time on the coil when you blew them. Most that blow them are pushing them too far charge time wise. We had a demonstration at the Haltech seminar where we ran them at 100% duty for probably 10 min. I run sequential and can run them in 6 ms range. In a wasted spark format your stuck with 3-4 ms and leaving some spark energy on the table. We'll see how far I get boost wise when I get my engine back together on E85.

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 12:41 AM
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Ryan,
I was pushing the dwell to 5ms...
Below that, I was breaking up around 5800rpm.
Above that, I was breaking up around 7000rpm.

Do you have the truck coils with the heat-sinks in them?
Those are apparently the best to use...
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:15 AM
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 05:11 AM
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Yep I have all truck coils with the heat sinks. They are also now what Haltech sells as well, instead of the straight LS-1 coils. Are you running sequential or wasted spark on your map? If its wasted spark that might explain the problem.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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whens the next meet
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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tony babe
I'm diggin the vinyl wrap bro...
Freakin hot!!!




Originally Posted by fritts
Yep I have all truck coils with the heat sinks. They are also now what Haltech sells as well, instead of the straight LS-1 coils. Are you running sequential or wasted spark on your map? If its wasted spark that might explain the problem.
Sequential.
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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I run the truck coils on my car, no issues.

In case you guys haven't heard, I blew mine up. Nasty rod knock. Forged aluminum motor will be in shortly.
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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It blew up because it still has some traces of rotary in it's veins...
Let that be a lesson for all to you guys.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:01 AM
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Let that be a lesson for all to you guys.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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I can do tonight, who will join me?
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalsolo
I run the truck coils on my car, no issues.

In case you guys haven't heard, I blew mine up. Nasty rod knock. Forged aluminum motor will be in shortly.

Those damn V8's so finicky... just don't last long, not good for anything.
I think I have heard someone say something similar to that before. The word rotary might have been somewhere in it though, right Blake.
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