He indicated earlier that he keeps an open mind... unfortunately, there just doesn't seem to be much capacity available for understanding anything that it is open to .

I don't own either of these systems, I'm not biased. I expect that there is a market for both of them. I expect drag racers to buy a cheaper system if it works as well at WOT as more expensive units just because it's the smart thing to do (not accounting for sponsorship issues, etc). For example, if some system has built in chassis data logging that includes lateral G and steering angle, I would not expect a drag racer to buy it if another system can do what he/she needs done for less money. It's really no more complicated than that. The fact that this would be interpreted as insulting to some I can only accredit to misunderstanding or flame baiting.

I joined this thread in response to vague allegations that Haltechs blow engines. I am pleased to say that T88Kid has maturely put those comments into context.

There may be ignition issues with the Haltech, but none that have been substantiated here.

I think that many of us can agree on one thing - it's sad that this thread had to have HITMan's name on it. I cannot see how he deserves to be associated with this mudslinging.

 

This will be the biggest meeting for rotors in australia for a long time!!! bring on the mid 7's!!!

 

Corey has already run 7.45 remember? Bring on the worlds fastest rotor title

 

There is no doubt that Cory will run faster than his pervious time, more development with the new car is a great thing, there is no reason why it cant run into the 6's,

I think a full bodied car will run into the mid-low 7's its only a matter of time!!! the question is who!! Pac have run 174.4mph in a rx3 so they are making enough power but will the mx6 work??? rotormaster will probably blow up, Mazfix is a very good chance if he gets some weight out!! maz sport with his clutch and box sorted has to be looking at 7sec passes, Dalton will probably be lacking in the power with a 13b but strap on a 20b and it has to run big numbers,

What will Anthony R bring out??? that is the question care to shed some light anthony??

AS Big Kev would say... Im excited!!

 

You’re demonstrating to everyone here that you’re incapable of thinking of anything other than quarter mile times and peak HP figures, both of little importance when comparing the abilities of ECU’s. I remember having exactly the same argument with you about carbs, and you didn’t get it then either. Oh, well...

 

bwhahahahah, keep dreamin steve remember abel doing 7.42 with 2 rotors


I smell another Usa vs Aus vs PR thread comming

 

I think the 7.45 was done as the engine popped (MTX12 I believe ) and I think that was the chassis's first meet! It will go quicker for damn sure!!

 

Hey. guys this is marcos acosta again. Let me tell you guys something, yes Puerto rico has been on top for many years, but the cars in australia are very impresive. You guys are running 8's with 3/4 chassis. Full cars with glass. Here and in PR is all about making the car light as you can. Hopefully, I'll be in the jamboree this year if everything goes as plan. If i'm there i want all you guy to pass by my trailer, And i'll happy give you all the info you want on the NEW Version of Microtech. By the way i wont use a product even if the company is sponsoring me, if i cannot win with there product

 

have any of you guys seen or tune a car with the new laptop version of microtech. if you have then you would already know all those answerd to those question you keep asking.
"those the microtech have 3d mapping for ignition" yes.
"can you save a microtech program" Yes
(i save all my programs)
ect.... you figure out the rest. dont judge the computer for the older version of it, if you have not seen the newest version. Any one who is in the states and wants to ask me question on the microtech, can call me at 201-488-5111, i'll be more than happy, to help you choose a ECU, to fit your needs!

 

AJC13B,
You know what changes improved Siguels time and you are dead right it had nothing to do with the EMS. It is about an alround package with the right people running it. The fact he decided to use MT is a bonus and regardless of what unit he used he would still have us on his crew. He is a good friend of mine and a fellow rotary enthusiast. Besides he is the fastest, I can only learn from a guy like that. Abel uses Motec and had fuel supply problems that cannot be rectified by its EMS.
NZ Convertible,
You keep trying to turn this into a drag vs circuit racing issue. Bring one of your rotary circuit vehicles with whatever management system you want and I will match and raise you two. By the way Rohan Ambrose just reset the lap record at Sandown with a MT but the credit is all his, the guy is capable of doing it with any unit that worked. Can you see the pattern. If the unit works, it is up to the user to decide how successful it will be.
It has never been said that MT is superior to Motec or any other unit for that fact, so I do not know where that is coming from. Please dont turn this back into a comedy! There are many pros that will not bother coming here because of this rubbish.
Regards- Anthony

 

Not circuit racers, STREET CARS! Reread my posts, I haven't mentioned track cars once. My argument has always been about the many different situations that a street car is driven in.

 

So now we narrow the scope down to just the states?
Last time I checked, F1 still holds the title for amount of money spent and INTERNATIONAL viewing audience...

Do we want to turn this into a how-good-are-Autometer-gauges thread?

No, that's call "illegal" by most law enforcement agencies in the U.S...

See above


I like AJ's reply...how about some old-school SFII action?


-Ted

 

No, it's cause it works.

No, it could mean they are not competent to tune a MoTeC or Haltech to the point the MicroTech is tuned.


See above

He got lucky?



1) see above
2) You do KNOW that MoTeC still can't control a 20B properly, right?



-Ted

 

Funny, if this was a Porsche club racing forum, you'd be laughed at.&nbsp MoTeC is run in 90% of the stand-alone club race cars in the U.S.


It's also stupid to assume this is the case...

V8's running on mechanical injection with magnetos on nitrometh are THE quickest vehicles on 4 wheels down the 1/4-mile through a conventional ICE and drive wheels.&nbsp Why don't you go get a V8 already...


-Ted

 

wow



-Ted

 

MVA - I was going to be at Jamboree with bells on, and if you are coming I will make doubley sure I am there!! It was going to be massive this year anyway. but going off the performance of your MX3 (being 2 tenths quicker than any full bodied car we have here!), I would assume your new car/s will be even better! Should be a great meeting!!

It is true that our cars having been doing great numbers with less developed cars. Mazfixs car doing 7.88 with a 3/4 chassis is great! But the fact of the matter is that yourself and other guys from PR and the US are prepared to spend the cash to run the lower numbers, whether the car is lighter by 300lbs or not makes little difference to me when you are the very pointy end of the game.

Anthony - Yeah I do know what changes were made and I really enjoyed our chat when I came down, learnt some very intersting things! The point I was trying to make was, and you confirmed it, that alot of people on here think an ECU will make or break a drag car and is the sole reason car X runs the numbers and car Y doesn't. (Yes Kabooski, I am looking at you and others as well)
And a few people in this thread have claimed that the Microtech is a better product than the Haltech:

Sorry, just being picky

 

BWAHAHAHA!!

Love your work Ted

 

I like cornbread...

 

Closet circuit racer hey anth ?

Chris

 

Chris!
You know where I started, and if you do not, I am sure that John will be able to tell you. If its fast and can be pushed by a rotor, I will do my best to drive it.
I must have read the post wrong and thought it was for circuit cars, but if it was about street cars, please insert the following in my previous post "street cars". The offer still stands.
Re gards-Anthony

 

P.S. AJC13B, you know where I am coming from, but if you insist I will stand corrected.
I should also clarify what Marcos is speaking about because the units that are released to the US are diferent to those in Aus. They are fundamentally the same with a few added functions.
Bye- Anthony

 

No, i knew where you started cause you told me once. Fancy that a top line drag racer with circuit experience. Could it be possible you do actually know what you are talking about :>))).

Chris



[QUOTE]Originally posted by Anthony Rodrigues
[B]Chris!
You know where I started, and if you do not, I am sure that John will be able to tell you. If its fast and can be pushed by a rotor, I will do my best to drive it.

 

Is there a particular reason Dom is releasing different versions of the Microtech overseas? Market differences or something?

And also, why isn't microtech telling the world about Siguel?! If I was Dom I would be screaming it from the highest point I could find!!

 

AJC
There are considerable market differences and requirements, for eg. all US units come 3bar and 9.5krpm, are supplied with 3 bar, water, air sensors and plugs aswell as all being laptop compatible. The US market know of Siguel and untill all of our distributors are trained and stocked there will be no marketing done in the US. We are trying to set up a support network in the US before it is needed rather than causing service issues.
Regards-Anthony

 

in that list of the quickest rotaries in oz, what does ems stand for? anyway, i think that list is a good idea. we should compile a worldwide list showing their times, how many rotors, and what ems they use. then we'll really see which system the big dogs use most, it'll be very interesting to say the least. does anyone have any times to contribute?

btw, we shouldn't be comparing what haltech's new system is gonna do against what microtech does. this is ridiculous to compare a system that is not out yet with one that is. if we could do that why don't we compare the next generation system being developed by microtech w/ the e11. using a non-existent system for comparison is a never ending battle, cause someone always has features coming out which will beat a competitor's existing features. it's like if someone says the xbox can do all this over the playstation 2 and then you say, yeah but the ps3 is gonna be way better than the xbox. let's wait for it to come out before we make comparisons.