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07-02-02, 06:44 PM
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I also tune cars's everyday, But the LT-x8 the USA Version of microtech is not 2D and it has twice the drivers that the e6k(12 in total)(haltech 4 unless you buy the -8). Is all laptop, and it has a real good Datarecorder, ( ten time better than the e6k). The microtech is all windows base. I dont want to say that the haltech dont work. But as a racer, i'm always on the dyno trying to find a product that would give me more horsepower, and at the same time be reliable. and i have found that on microtech. I'll be in SumerSlam this coming weekend, please look for me, if anyone wants to see a demo or wants more info on microtech.
Thank you for your time.
P.S. (hitman) i have race and tune haltech for 12 years, i think i know all the tricks to it.
Thank you for your time.
P.S. (hitman) i have race and tune haltech for 12 years, i think i know all the tricks to it.
07-02-02, 08:22 PM
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This looks like another MicroTech vs Haltech thread. Not sure why it is labeled “Hitman”.
MVAMotorsport, Thanks for this info. Are you the guy stating that Haltech ECUs are having timing issues that may cause engines to blow? If so could you give accountability for this statement and examples. If not, could you clear this up.
Just want to know what’s really going on.
Microtech is still pretty new to us here in the US. It is up to you guys who are happy with the product to promote it to others. Look at Siguel Racing. They seem to be the best promotion for Microtech right now. I just hope bashing Haltech for the wrong reasons is not part of the plan. I hope Microtech vs Haltech becomes a healthy rivalry between ECUs. This may result in better products for the consumers. I plan to be at English town on Sunday for the last day of summer slam. I would love some more info on the Microtech units.
Moespeed.
MVAMotorsport, Thanks for this info. Are you the guy stating that Haltech ECUs are having timing issues that may cause engines to blow? If so could you give accountability for this statement and examples. If not, could you clear this up.
Just want to know what’s really going on.
Microtech is still pretty new to us here in the US. It is up to you guys who are happy with the product to promote it to others. Look at Siguel Racing. They seem to be the best promotion for Microtech right now. I just hope bashing Haltech for the wrong reasons is not part of the plan. I hope Microtech vs Haltech becomes a healthy rivalry between ECUs. This may result in better products for the consumers. I plan to be at English town on Sunday for the last day of summer slam. I would love some more info on the Microtech units.
Moespeed.
07-02-02, 09:26 PM
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I think theye just jealous because they dont have their own forum.
Seriously though, quit bashing the Haltech. 95% of us are building weekend warriors, not 8 second drag cars. Again, 95% of us have a budget that doesent allow a EMS to take a few grand.
Seriously though, quit bashing the Haltech. 95% of us are building weekend warriors, not 8 second drag cars. Again, 95% of us have a budget that doesent allow a EMS to take a few grand.
07-03-02, 05:47 AM
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But as a racer, i'm always on the dyno trying to find a product that would give me more horsepower, and at the same time be reliable. and i have found that on microtech
nuff said
07-03-02, 07:26 AM
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yep well ive seen Microtech's continually bagged on here by certain people and heard statements they would'nt run them on their billycart or if they were free etc etc blah blah blah
well ive seen a Haltech ditched in favour of an Autronic and the guy that owns the car could'nt believe the difference the Autronic made and has never been happier
now should i now be saying i would'nt run a Haltech on my scooter or use one if they were giving them out for free ????? No because this is unprofessional ,everyone is entitled too their opinions but when they slag other products or brands off this is showing their immaturity ,i read all the post's on the old ECU war and i think Microtech was bashed for no reason really ,i think some of these experts that are bagging other brands etc maybe should sit down and develop a ECU themselves and we will see what they are capable of ,but we will never see this because i doubt they are capable of it
so what am i saying ?????
feel free to express your opinion on a product without all the slagging that usually goes with that opinion its as simple as that
oh and no i don't sell Microtechs but i do like to show respect where respect is due to a small group of people that have developed an ECU that has proven itself in all forms of motorsport
well ive seen a Haltech ditched in favour of an Autronic and the guy that owns the car could'nt believe the difference the Autronic made and has never been happier
now should i now be saying i would'nt run a Haltech on my scooter or use one if they were giving them out for free ????? No because this is unprofessional ,everyone is entitled too their opinions but when they slag other products or brands off this is showing their immaturity ,i read all the post's on the old ECU war and i think Microtech was bashed for no reason really ,i think some of these experts that are bagging other brands etc maybe should sit down and develop a ECU themselves and we will see what they are capable of ,but we will never see this because i doubt they are capable of it
so what am i saying ?????
feel free to express your opinion on a product without all the slagging that usually goes with that opinion its as simple as that
oh and no i don't sell Microtechs but i do like to show respect where respect is due to a small group of people that have developed an ECU that has proven itself in all forms of motorsport
07-03-02, 08:02 AM
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Have been here before, Not again.... Anthony knows what I mean.
I am an Autronic user and am happy with my choice
MAZMAN has a good point, cement has a proffessional point that is logical.
MVA is a bit behind the mark in the way he has broached his opinion.
Let the war begin ...lol
I am an Autronic user and am happy with my choice
MAZMAN has a good point, cement has a proffessional point that is logical.
MVA is a bit behind the mark in the way he has broached his opinion.
Let the war begin ...lol
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07-03-02, 08:33 AM
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Oh dear!
I read about cars using Microtech computers making good power without trouble.
I read about cars using Haltechs making good power without trouble. (AJC13B)
I read about cars using Brand X computers making good power without trouble.
Blah! Blah! Blah!
Why don't you guys concentrate on making the computer you tune for your customers work to it's best, rather than waste time claiming your preferred system is better than everyone elses?
I just don't get it. Oh, and I don't mean to offend anyone by this post, it's just my opinion.
Later,
Christian.
PS. I am not a tuner, and I don't have heaps of knowledge about engine management systems, if that makes a difference.
I read about cars using Microtech computers making good power without trouble.
I read about cars using Haltechs making good power without trouble. (AJC13B)
I read about cars using Brand X computers making good power without trouble.
Blah! Blah! Blah!
Why don't you guys concentrate on making the computer you tune for your customers work to it's best, rather than waste time claiming your preferred system is better than everyone elses?
I just don't get it. Oh, and I don't mean to offend anyone by this post, it's just my opinion.
Later,
Christian.
PS. I am not a tuner, and I don't have heaps of knowledge about engine management systems, if that makes a difference.
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On the issue of why we arent using a MoTec? Lets see.....it costs about 20k. Before you insinuate that we cant afford it, thats not the issue at all. Surely the Motec system is the best out there is but we've found in Microtech similar features that Motec has and Haltech does not, for a grand and change. You do the math and deduce what seems logical. Its datalogging is better than Haltech, has more drivers than the Haltech, it's Windows based (vs Haltechs DOS app), its not 2D but most importantly it doesn't have issues with timing or injector drivers. Microtech in my opinion is much more reliable.
Hitman cleary made a childish and immature remark when bashing the Microtech ecu on the Haltech vs Microtech thread. Surely there are those that have made good hp on the E6K and E6S ecu but I will guarantee you that they have and will blow a bit more than 1 motor. We are not claiming that Haltech is a piece of ****, only that it pales in comparison to Microtech US ecu's.
The older versions of Haltechs ecu's kick ***. In our experience with ECU's we believe that Microtech is the better ecu for the rotary engine.
Ask any racer, any rotary racer out there.....how many motors have you blown running the E6k and E6S? Too many I bet. A few have even decided to go back to an F-series with a distributer to find some sence of reliability.
To my belief, the thread was started to correct Hitmans erroneous remarks on the previous ecu thread about the Microtech ecu.
Piece all.
Mario
Hitman cleary made a childish and immature remark when bashing the Microtech ecu on the Haltech vs Microtech thread. Surely there are those that have made good hp on the E6K and E6S ecu but I will guarantee you that they have and will blow a bit more than 1 motor. We are not claiming that Haltech is a piece of ****, only that it pales in comparison to Microtech US ecu's.
The older versions of Haltechs ecu's kick ***. In our experience with ECU's we believe that Microtech is the better ecu for the rotary engine.
Ask any racer, any rotary racer out there.....how many motors have you blown running the E6k and E6S? Too many I bet. A few have even decided to go back to an F-series with a distributer to find some sence of reliability.
To my belief, the thread was started to correct Hitmans erroneous remarks on the previous ecu thread about the Microtech ecu.
Piece all.
Mario
07-03-02, 08:29 PM
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Timing issues
Originally posted by T88Kid
On the issue of why we arent using a MoTec? Lets see.....it costs about 20k. Before you insinuate that we cant afford it, thats not the issue at all. Surely the Motec system is the best out there is but we've found in Microtech similar features that Motec has and Haltech does not, for a grand and change. You do the math and deduce what seems logical. Its datalogging is better than Haltech, has more drivers than the Haltech, it's Windows based (vs Haltechs DOS app), its not 2D but most importantly it doesn't have issues with timing or injector drivers. Microtech in my opinion is much more reliable.
Hitman cleary made a childish and immature remark when bashing the Microtech ecu on the Haltech vs Microtech thread. Surely there are those that have made good hp on the E6K and E6S ecu but I will guarantee you that they have and will blow a bit more than 1 motor. We are not claiming that Haltech is a piece of ****, only that it pales in comparison to Microtech US ecu's.
The older versions of Haltechs ecu's kick ***. In our experience with ECU's we believe that Microtech is the better ecu for the rotary engine.
Ask any racer, any rotary racer out there.....how many motors have you blown running the E6k and E6S? Too many I bet. A few have even decided to go back to an F-series with a distributer to find some sence of reliability.
To my belief, the thread was started to correct Hitmans erroneous remarks on the previous ecu thread about the Microtech ecu.
Piece all.
Mario
On the issue of why we arent using a MoTec? Lets see.....it costs about 20k. Before you insinuate that we cant afford it, thats not the issue at all. Surely the Motec system is the best out there is but we've found in Microtech similar features that Motec has and Haltech does not, for a grand and change. You do the math and deduce what seems logical. Its datalogging is better than Haltech, has more drivers than the Haltech, it's Windows based (vs Haltechs DOS app), its not 2D but most importantly it doesn't have issues with timing or injector drivers. Microtech in my opinion is much more reliable.
Hitman cleary made a childish and immature remark when bashing the Microtech ecu on the Haltech vs Microtech thread. Surely there are those that have made good hp on the E6K and E6S ecu but I will guarantee you that they have and will blow a bit more than 1 motor. We are not claiming that Haltech is a piece of ****, only that it pales in comparison to Microtech US ecu's.
The older versions of Haltechs ecu's kick ***. In our experience with ECU's we believe that Microtech is the better ecu for the rotary engine.
Ask any racer, any rotary racer out there.....how many motors have you blown running the E6k and E6S? Too many I bet. A few have even decided to go back to an F-series with a distributer to find some sence of reliability.
To my belief, the thread was started to correct Hitmans erroneous remarks on the previous ecu thread about the Microtech ecu.
Piece all.
Mario
Could you elaborate more on the timing issues you have seen with the Haltech ECU. Was it specific to a certain model E6a, E6s, or E6k?
07-04-02, 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by T88Kid
On the issue of why we arent using a MoTec? Lets see.....it costs about 20k. Before you insinuate that we cant afford it, thats not the issue at all. Surely the Motec system is the best out there is but we've found in Microtech similar features that Motec has and Haltech does not, for a grand and change. You do the math and deduce what seems logical. Its datalogging is better than Haltech, has more drivers than the Haltech, it's Windows based (vs Haltechs DOS app), its not 2D but most importantly it doesn't have issues with timing or injector drivers. Microtech in my opinion is much more reliable.
Hitman cleary made a childish and immature remark when bashing the Microtech ecu on the Haltech vs Microtech thread. Surely there are those that have made good hp on the E6K and E6S ecu but I will guarantee you that they have and will blow a bit more than 1 motor. We are not claiming that Haltech is a piece of ****, only that it pales in comparison to Microtech US ecu's.
The older versions of Haltechs ecu's kick ***. In our experience with ECU's we believe that Microtech is the better ecu for the rotary engine.
Ask any racer, any rotary racer out there.....how many motors have you blown running the E6k and E6S? Too many I bet. A few have even decided to go back to an F-series with a distributer to find some sence of reliability.
To my belief, the thread was started to correct Hitmans erroneous remarks on the previous ecu thread about the Microtech ecu.
Piece all.
Mario
On the issue of why we arent using a MoTec? Lets see.....it costs about 20k. Before you insinuate that we cant afford it, thats not the issue at all. Surely the Motec system is the best out there is but we've found in Microtech similar features that Motec has and Haltech does not, for a grand and change. You do the math and deduce what seems logical. Its datalogging is better than Haltech, has more drivers than the Haltech, it's Windows based (vs Haltechs DOS app), its not 2D but most importantly it doesn't have issues with timing or injector drivers. Microtech in my opinion is much more reliable.
Hitman cleary made a childish and immature remark when bashing the Microtech ecu on the Haltech vs Microtech thread. Surely there are those that have made good hp on the E6K and E6S ecu but I will guarantee you that they have and will blow a bit more than 1 motor. We are not claiming that Haltech is a piece of ****, only that it pales in comparison to Microtech US ecu's.
The older versions of Haltechs ecu's kick ***. In our experience with ECU's we believe that Microtech is the better ecu for the rotary engine.
Ask any racer, any rotary racer out there.....how many motors have you blown running the E6k and E6S? Too many I bet. A few have even decided to go back to an F-series with a distributer to find some sence of reliability.
To my belief, the thread was started to correct Hitmans erroneous remarks on the previous ecu thread about the Microtech ecu.
Piece all.
Mario
You are a microtech dealer, You have never experienced a car with a Motec, Autronic or Haltech E6K that was tuned by someone who knew what they were doing.
The E6K has better datalogging that the MTX range of microtech computers.
07-04-02, 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by RICE RACING
T88kid, I think "20k for a motec" is a pretty childish remark....
T88kid, I think "20k for a motec" is a pretty childish remark....
07-04-02, 06:29 AM
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Gee,how the hell do you get 20K for a motec?
And thats US $
I think you'se are getting riped off
Give me 20K US and ill get you a MoTeC,and ill chuck in a rx7 S4/5 with that as well,fully worked
And thats US $
I think you'se are getting riped off
Give me 20K US and ill get you a MoTeC,and ill chuck in a rx7 S4/5 with that as well,fully worked
07-04-02, 07:06 AM
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Now wonder he is having difficulty with a Haltech/Motec/Autronic....If he is that bad with figures and the like, he should be using a old school Microtech and a couple of screw drivers to tune it lol
Seriously though bro, this is a Haltech Forum Not a microtech one, if you want to correct things that have passed, Go to the general ECU section and post your positive results with your new unit. Good luck in your choice and I hope it works for you for what ever your reasons are.
Posting your views here when they have no direct use to Haltech users shows simply that you have little understanding of what people use this forum for, A medium to increase their joyfull experience of running a rotary engined vehicle....regardless of what ECU they choose to use.
You have switched camps, good for you. Many in this forum do not care, as they are happy with what they are using and have no problems just because you had some, does not mean that you are right and eveyone else (haltech runners) is wrong. If your product is good then go talk about it in the general section, I am sure if there is enough interest then there will be a section created for you. Untill then I suggest you do not use this section to promote your own self interests, just because you got a hard time in another thread.
What has past, has past...that is life, move on and provide some "non biased" results in the appropriate manner and I am sure you will have a large following given time.
regards
Peter.
lolSeriously though bro, this is a Haltech Forum Not a microtech one, if you want to correct things that have passed, Go to the general ECU section and post your positive results with your new unit. Good luck in your choice and I hope it works for you for what ever your reasons are.
Posting your views here when they have no direct use to Haltech users shows simply that you have little understanding of what people use this forum for, A medium to increase their joyfull experience of running a rotary engined vehicle....regardless of what ECU they choose to use.
You have switched camps, good for you. Many in this forum do not care, as they are happy with what they are using and have no problems just because you had some, does not mean that you are right and eveyone else (haltech runners) is wrong. If your product is good then go talk about it in the general section, I am sure if there is enough interest then there will be a section created for you. Untill then I suggest you do not use this section to promote your own self interests, just because you got a hard time in another thread.
What has past, has past...that is life, move on and provide some "non biased" results in the appropriate manner and I am sure you will have a large following given time.
regards
Peter.
07-04-02, 07:28 AM
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MVAmotorsport, If you want to be of help...there is a guy in the general ecu section (forum name catch22) asking a MTX8 question, with your new found knowledge you could be of some help to him? As no one has responded to his question yet...Maybe this is where you should start? Helping others who are using your system, just a thought?
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07-04-02, 09:54 AM
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Re: Timing issues
Originally posted by waynespeed
Hey Mario, I'll be looking forward to seeing you guys at the track this weekend.
Could you elaborate more on the timing issues you have seen with the Haltech ECU. Was it specific to a certain model E6a, E6s, or E6k?
Hey Mario, I'll be looking forward to seeing you guys at the track this weekend.
Could you elaborate more on the timing issues you have seen with the Haltech ECU. Was it specific to a certain model E6a, E6s, or E6k?
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=77599
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Thanks Andres for opening up this thread again. Here in Southern New York / Northern New Jersey area, I have heard this ugly statement being made about the great E6k. Something about it having timing issues. The issue about injector drivers is also mentioned. MVAmotorsport is not the first to mention it. In the thread listed earlier( https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=77599 ), timing issues were also mentioned. I am a tuner for a car with an E6k and have a IG5 with a F9a on my RX7 and do not see any problems, but then I am not trying to go for 6s in the 1320. I personally do not think there is a problem with the E6K unit but do wonder if there is issues with how this units loom is wired buy the individual tuners whether it is injectors, ignition or ground locations. Say a tuner like Marcus may not have issues with wiring a particular Microtech unit but may have issues with the E6k. That alone would make anybody switch. If there is any other feature that he has issues with in the E6k that the Microtech unit does better would make this switch a plus + +. I wish there were more information on the Microtech units. I do not like the fact that I am learning about this unit in this type of atmosphere.
Anyway, enough BS
. Lets turn it up. 
Is any of the big Haltech boys blowing engines?
It seems because of this thread the answer is??
For Marcus to make these statements , he certainly got my hear. Just go to the Haltech website and you will see Marcus Acosta’s car being promoted.
http://www.haltech.com.au/Who_s_Hot_...os_acosta.html
I guess this thread means he is not hot with Haltech anymore.
Anyway, enough BS
. Lets turn it up. Is any of the big Haltech boys blowing engines?
It seems because of this thread the answer is
?? For Marcus to make these statements , he certainly got my hear. Just go to the Haltech website and you will see Marcus Acosta’s car being promoted.
http://www.haltech.com.au/Who_s_Hot_...os_acosta.html
I guess this thread means he is not hot with Haltech anymore.
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HI, this is marcos acosta, I'm sorry about all this back and fourth goin on, My first satement was only intended to HItman, cause he wrote a statement saying i didn't know how to tune or wire up an haltech. I never ment for this fighting to go on. I'm just simply telling you all the guys in this forum, that i'm on the dyno 24/7 days of the week, trying to find a product that would give me the most Horsepower with out breacking anything. I have manage to get 900HP out of a 2rotor with out breacking and 1275 out of a 3 rotor and 1755 out of a 4 rotor. I have been tunning rotary for 15 years. I know every little secrets there is to know on a rotary. with the Microtech LT-X8 i have found that i can make HP with breacking. ( many top guys in racing have switch to microtech or a older version of haltech.) guys like (Pepe Loco, TurboBEE, Siguel racing, Tatto racing, TiTan Motorsports(supra) Twin Turbo racing, and many more.
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And remember something, if i go down the 1320 at speed over 180+ and time of 7's and soon 6's with out damage. just think how your car is goin to run with half the boost level i run and half the strees i put on my motors. (and i have try every computer in the MARKET.)
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A possible blown motor again for me on the E6K.
Driving at a constant 60mph @ 7-8 psi part throttle.
We have a good idea what it might be but we will post in the next few days as we are trying to narrow it down.
We've checked the wiring again for the umph'teenth time and find nothing wrong. We'll check the sensors too to check for any damage.
Mario
Driving at a constant 60mph @ 7-8 psi part throttle.
We have a good idea what it might be but we will post in the next few days as we are trying to narrow it down.
We've checked the wiring again for the umph'teenth time and find nothing wrong. We'll check the sensors too to check for any damage.
Mario
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07-07-02, 09:14 AM
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I bet HITman is sitting back laughing 
We all know who knows their **** on Haltech's...
And I agress with the previous statement
People use Haltech's make good power and is reliable
People use Microtech make good power and is reliable
People use brand x's make good power and is reliable
Leave it at that
I mean I like Pioneer, and some swear its junk its a matter of opinion
We all know who knows their **** on Haltech's... And I agress with the previous statement
People use Haltech's make good power and is reliable
People use Microtech make good power and is reliable
People use brand x's make good power and is reliable
Leave it at that
I mean I like Pioneer, and some swear its junk its a matter of opinion