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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.P.
yeah, that turbo wouldn't work in drifting.. way too much lag.
i remember riding in your car with the S300 and it pretty much seemed like the perfect setup. had a little bit of lag, but it came on fast, and when it did it was nuts couldn't imagine driving that thing in 3rd/4th gear at FD Vegas or something. that power output would be pretty rad for me to experience. wasn't it 1/2 bridged or something?

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Funny thing, I told my mom today that some people put V8's in RX-7s, and she said "Wouldn't that be like bastardizing the car?"
lol my dad keeps trying to convince me to do an LS.... he always says "if you put an LS1, and a set of gears in that thing - boy that ****** would really run"

he swears my car is slow with the GT35R... it's annoying.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Valkyrie: lol your mom is cool
Bucky: your dad sounds like mine.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by driftfcbuckey
he swears my car is slow with the GT35R... it's annoying.
I had stock ports with a GT35R and I have never met anyone who ever rode in the car who said it was slow. Mine had some lag and def wasn't tuned the best it could be, but still ..... slow, come on.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RXILVER7
I had stock ports with a GT35R and I have never met anyone who ever rode in the car who said it was slow. Mine had some lag and def wasn't tuned the best it could be, but still ..... slow, come on.
i know! lol like i know it's not going to break sound barrier but **** a "it's better than before" would've been cool to hear... lol
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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i've only ran street ports in my motors..
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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Street ported FD engine I built with a HKS T04Z made 464 whp on 91 pump fuel. 4 injectors, no aux injection.



Streetport is where its at for turbo engines

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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.P.
i've only ran street ports in my motors..
damn i could've sworn you or dan or someone said the latest motor was a 1/2 or full bridge.

your setup was perfect.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.P.
i've only ran street ports in my motors..
wait i think it was radDan's car i was thinking of he said his car was half bridge. i remember seeing this video and not even seeing Dans car, so i thought yours was idling like this

i'm an idiot. all i saw was green.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXMoF_wYDcY
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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^^ I think this is a pretty normal and usable amount of HP for streetports. Great power and response. I have a T04Z strapped to a half bridge. We'll see how that goes...... In terms of streetported 2 rotor drift cars I've seen most be very successful with 460hp and less. I understand wanting the highly modded motor and gobs of horse power though. Especially if your engine builder is using it as a showcase for his porting ability.

With the ports are you guys going to do a standard bridge or a monster bridge where you cut into the rotor housing? I'm asking because I've never seen anyone use the monster and I'd love to hear that thing.

For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about....

Monster bridge
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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That's more commonly known as a j bridge.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by R.P.M.
Street ported FD engine I built with a HKS T04Z made 464 whp on 91 pump fuel. 4 injectors, no aux injection.



Streetport is where its at for turbo engines

not 500whp... but good non the less..
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 02:25 AM
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hahaha justin is such a gangster!

These things came in today.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 10:32 AM
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have followed your build for a long time on ziptied, cleannnnnnn car bro keep up the great work
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.P.
not 500whp... but good non the less..
LOL, yes true.

Just putting it out there tho, 464whp is easily acheivable on 91 pump fuel on a streetported engine.

BTW, that was at 15psi boost, we have lots of room left to go more.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by driftfcbuckey
wait i think it was radDan's car i was thinking of he said his car was half bridge. i remember seeing this video and not even seeing Dans car, so i thought yours was idling like this

i'm an idiot. all i saw was green.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXMoF_wYDcY
I believe that black car is running a v8 with a sequential transmission. Justin could probably tell you. Seems fun.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by R.P.M.
LOL, yes true.

Just putting it out there tho, 464whp is easily acheivable on 91 pump fuel on a streetported engine.

BTW, that was at 15psi boost, we have lots of room left to go more.
HKS to4z?...what size hot side? not to thread jack...but i'm pretty certain a to4z wouldn't have much more room to grow beyond 460ish on a rotary... even at 18-20 psi...

But cool
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by driftfever
I believe that black car is running a v8 with a sequential transmission. Justin could probably tell you. Seems fun.
ryans car sounds like ****.

it does have an LS1, with a T56 last time i saw it. if it has a sequential trans - props to him. i still think that thing was missile bombing with a 6 speed
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by R.P.M.
Street ported FD engine I built with a HKS T04Z made 464 whp on 91 pump fuel. 4 injectors, no aux injection.



Streetport is where its at for turbo engines
I like street ports because I'm a nervous wreck about blowing things up... and like peace of mind ha. But I'd love a BP drift car.

Maybe my car is retarded.... but it made like 30 more ft lbs of tq than your car and only like 8 more hp. It started with a Pineapple medium template that I modded the Intake Port closing profile and Exhaust port Closing profile to be a little more agressive..and opened the opening on the intake as much as I could without dropping a corner seal

I'm on an exhaust manifold that Me and my Buddy from Groundwerks Did up, short/large diameter runners with a little T3 flanged Precision PT6262sp billet wheel turbo. A UIM that me and Groundwerks slapped together w/ a 85mm TB. S4 Low Compression Rotors only on 19lbs, pump gas and 50/50 water-meth... We're just getting into the Turbos Efficiency range with that pressure. plan on going E85 and tuning for 26lbs.

Last time I got it tuned by Dave @ Speed1 (KDR) and he was in love with my setup. He said its one of the most balanced engine/turbo/power cars hes seen in a long time. boost and power come on super fast... like someone said earlier... it really does feel like riding my old 03 GSXR750.



Buck, Bridge it and Stud it. Run something like a PT 6766 CEA. Short exhaust manifold, and a 60mm WG. E85 and like 28lbs.... and wear a diaper.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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black fc has a tex racing 4spd

looking at that dyno graph it doesn't look very "driftable" 5k-8k isn't much of a powerband... it's impressive, but not fundriftable..

also seeing how the hp tops off around 6500 i agree there's probably not much more in that turbo..
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Isn't the fun in narrow power band that forces you to be more focused on your throttle and clutch control ... ?
Not as efficient as V8s, but fun...
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by driftfcbuckey
i've had a few people tell me about the 626 mc. is it worthwhile?

Originally Posted by Karack
for about $100 total, why not try it. cheaper than tossing the $1200 big brakes on and the pedal still feeling like a brick.

the 626 cylinder bore is 15/16" versus the FC master which is 7/8". more surface area = less pedal effort for the same brake.

the 626 master just requires some line modifications, there's a few writeups on the forums.


i haven't really done a before and after comparison but i will be doing it on an FD in the shop in the next few weeks after the engine is built.
Are you guys referring to the 929 master cylinder? The 929 MS is what's typically used as an upgrade in the FD.

I did have a '96 Mazda V6 MX-6 for a while - which is nearly identical to the 626. Even though it was ~250 lbs. heavier with 70/30 weight distribution when lowered, the MX-6 brakes had stronger initial "bite" and less of a mushy pedal than my '93 FD. fwiw, I even installed SS brake lines on my FD to help improve the feel, but there was no performance difference between them and the stock lines.

The 929 MS was intended to stop a car that's ~800 lbs. heavier than an FD, so I'm expecting better bite, a stiffer pedal, and shorter throw.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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must've been the 929. one other person brought it up to me literally like the night before Ben posted in here about it.

the mushy feeling is the best description of why i hate my brakes. you stab them, and they feel like you hit a wall and then all of a sudden theyre locking if you push any harder.

they're like an on off switch. i need to look into this more for sure. thanks for the info! im waiting for my brembo rebuild kit to get here so i can drop my calipers off at powder coat and get the ball rolling.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:51 PM
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edit: i don't have SS lines, and i bled the brakes every event. im sure the SS lines might have made them better but its too late. lol

ordering DTSS eliminators tonight. i promise. if i dont someone slap the **** out of me
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by driftfcbuckey
edit: i don't have SS lines, and i bled the brakes every event. im sure the SS lines might have made them better...
They might help protect the lines against road debris, but I really didn't notice anything at all different by adding the SS lines.

Originally Posted by juicyjosh
Are you guys referring to the 929 master cylinder? The 929 MS is what's typically used as an upgrade in the FD.

...

The 929 MS was intended to stop a car that's ~800 lbs. heavier than an FD, so I'm expecting better bite, a stiffer pedal, and shorter throw.
I mean "929 MC." For some reason I kept typing MS, was thinking about Mazdaspeed
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