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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by stevensimon
ugh i need to stop playing fd and get my **** built. its already january
you got this man! just stay in the garage, make a check list, and don't leave till you cross a few things off. if you don't do the check list sometimes it's easy to do a little bit of everything and seemingly not get anything done, and burn you out...

get at itttt broskee! we wanna see it!



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Package came in today while i was at the shop.
now it's time to pull my motor out and refresh it. ordering a stud kit, and having Steve Singh of Area-77 Rotor works do a full bridge port and shoot for 500whp SAFELY. (i wanted to do this last year but was way too overwhelmed getting my chassis repaired, EMS, wheels, coilovers, aero, etc all at once)



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Real World Solutions - Rotary Aviation Overhaul Kit w/ 2mm Super Seals (cryo treated), and Race Springs. (Race Springs not pictured coming in a later shipment)
Huge thanks goes out to Laura, and Dominic at Rotary Aviation for supporting my team this season

i've had a taste of sub 350whp on 8psi. it's now time for more.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 05:41 AM
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dope!

why bridge port? 500whp can easily be achieved with 91 octane and a large street port.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Cause it sounds awesome!!
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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This car is bamf, the hood turned out really nice... Wanna see some more track picks =)
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenki FC3S
dope!

why bridge port? 500whp can easily be achieved with 91 octane and a large street port.
honestly i try to talk people out of bridges unless they need the peak power shift up to 9500+.

large street ports do what most people need from their engine without all the drama unless you like the "BRAP".
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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honestly i try to talk people out of bridges unless they need the peak power shift up to 9500+.

Large street ports do what most people need from their engine without all the drama unless you like the "brap".
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenki FC3S
dope!

why bridge port? 500whp can easily be achieved with 91 octane and a large street port.
easily achieved with 91..... explain... i highly doubt this.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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i like the brap.

my builder/tuner wants to showcase one bad-*** build, and i'm fully supporting it. we're ready to move to that level.

large street port was talked about, and isn't fully tossed out the window because let's face it - none of us want to blow a motor up - but with that being said we're wanting the car to be in your face ridiculous to be able to compete with all the other 400-800hp FD Pro cars once/if we get to that level as well as show case both of our shops work quality, and supporters efforts into our program this season. those cars really are no joke, as are alot of the pro-am cars lately. everyone is stepping up super hard, and quite honestly my car is still behind - it just looks the part. it's really just a puppy in wolves clothing...

it really is surprising how fast a mildly modded LSx motor is with a g-force trans, good suspension, perfect alignment, and gearing for each round. those guys don't play around, hence why we need to step up if we even want to consider having a shot at anything more than top 8.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.P.
easily achieved with 91..... explain... i highly doubt this.
There is a dude out here pushing over 500whp on 93. I would never use the word "Easily" to describe his build. I think he's running a GT4088 and a monsterous streetport. It's a street car that he highway races so his setup probably wouldn't work for drifting as it takes a while for his turbo to spool.

I'm not sure about this, but doesn't a full bridgeport hurt your low end torque? Not saying you're going to be drifting on the low end, just curious.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.P.
easily achieved with 91..... explain... i highly doubt this.
big turbo and water injection. people have done over 700wheel horsepower with streetports..

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I'm not sure about this, but doesn't a full bridgeport hurt your low end torque? Not saying you're going to be drifting on the low end, just curious.
out of boost the car is obviously jerky with a bridge as it overfuels due to the overlap. once it gets into boost the RPM span is similar to a streetport but shifted slightly higher. bridges pull about half the vacuum of stock and streetported motors so street driving is a royal pain in the rear, taking off from stops= super laggy without smoking the clutch doing a drag launch.

the biggest detractor for me is the cost of spending $20 in fuel to drive 30 minutes across town and another $20 to drive back, **** that... my car gets over 20mpg on the freeway and still has about 350HP to back it up when needed with just the streetport.

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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
the biggest detractor for me is the cost of spending $20 in fuel to drive 30 minutes across town and another $20 to drive back, **** that... my car gets over 20mpg on the freeway and still has about 350HP to back it up when needed with just the streetport.
Good info but, this is a race car its already horrible on gas might as well make it sound cool and have *****.

granted it sees street duties once or twice a week for local meets but i dont mind getting gas to cruise it to the meets or local events.

Would like to hear more on the lack of torque though. I can see the rpm range shifting higher to "take advantage" of the porting per se but i dont see it being less torquey.


All i know is i love flooring it and have my car sink inti V8 cars and pull on them when leading.

I want to do whatever it takes to have that keep happening but now aiming at higher targets.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 08:50 PM
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I need to put my car on a dyno. I swear i think its making 320-360 hp max and it doesnt feel too nuts. Definitely need more just for the fun factor
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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Good to know. I can't wait to see what 500hp is like...hopefully
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by driftfcbuckey
Good info but, this is a race car its already horrible on gas might as well make it sound cool and have *****.

granted it sees street duties once or twice a week for local meets but i dont mind getting gas to cruise it to the meets or local events.

Would like to hear more on the lack of torque though. I can see the rpm range shifting higher to "take advantage" of the porting per se but i dont see it being less torquey.


All i know is i love flooring it and have my car sink inti V8 cars and pull on them when leading.

I want to do whatever it takes to have that keep happening but now aiming at higher targets.
i suppose you just have to do it to compare how it was to how it will be. it will be more difficult to take off from stops and won't be as responsive out of boost, but that highly depends on the turbo being used. it's not too bad with a quality BB turbo or even some of the newer billet non BB turbos on the market.

but i suppose it doesn't really matter since it's not a regularly street driven car. the majority of the cars i build are street driven so i usually have that mindset. i just get to hear some people complain about gas mileage and drivability and then turbo upgrades with street driven bridges.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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Ceasar. He built an fd for andrew with 535hp that is on 91. No water/meth. 4 injectors on the manifold no direct injection.
All custom ****.
His tune is madness! His rx3 makes 963 whp with a 2 rotor.


I was gonna be bridgeport but he talked me outta it. His large street port that im running braps a lil. Bridge has No low end, engine needs rebuild sooner, need a better trans to get full potential. 9k is hardly a redline
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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^^FD ports are larger than FC ports I believe. At least they look like they are. The REW has stronger castings to support more boost in my experience as well.

This is more of my opinion than anything else. Anyone have any hard evidence for or against this??
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenki FC3S
Ceasar. He built an fd for andrew with 535hp that is on 91. No water/meth. 4 injectors on the manifold no direct injection.
All custom ****.
His tune is madness! His rx3 makes 963 whp with a 2 rotor.


I was gonna be bridgeport but he talked me outta it. His large street port that im running braps a lil. Bridge has No low end, engine needs rebuild sooner, need a better trans to get full potential. 9k is hardly a redline
what size turbo? got a dynograph? i don't think we're comparing apples to apples... dyno queens and drift machines are a different story..
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenki FC3S
His rx3 makes 963 whp with a 2 rotor.
I've heard of stuff like this. There's a shop owner out here who claims over 900 on a 13b-rew but I've never seen a dynograph. It's a drag car though, not a drift car.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by driftfcbuckey
i like the brap.

my builder/tuner wants to showcase one bad-*** build, and i'm fully supporting it. we're ready to move to that level...but with that being said we're wanting the car to be in your face ridiculous to be able to compete with all the other 400-800hp FD Pro cars once/if we get to that level

lets be serious here...
if/when you get to that level, youll already have an LS swap.

all the cool kids are doing it, noob
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by J.T.P.
what size turbo? got a dynograph? i don't think we're comparing apples to apples... dyno queens and drift machines are a different story..
that fd is all over the place. he has been to cali and vegas recently...
its running a S375 at 20+ psi., dual wastegates(doesnt matter), and all kinds of crazy custom ****.

no doubt race gas (110+ octane) is recommended but that **** is too expensive.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RussTII
lets be serious here...
if/when you get to that level, youll already have an LS swap.

all the cool kids are doing it, noob
me "liking the brap" was me being sarcastic. i'm not spending a bunch of $ to have it sound cool. if that were the case i'd pass on it, keep my timing map the way it is and have every NOOB fooled thinking it's heavily ported which already happens every day.

how would i have an LS swap? i hate V8s. i'm pretty sure we can all agree the only turbo motors in FD worth a **** are either the big displacement V6's, or rotaries. at 1 point when i was 6 motors deep pulling them out every weekend i did contemplate it. hell alot of people do. it's easier to ask questions, and contemplate what route will be best for you before straight pulling a car apart, and letting it sit for a year or 2 while it's being built. ;p that's not my style.


I'm not switching to any V8 in my red FC. bookmark this post. if i ever do, walk up to me - kick me in the *****, and laugh at me for being retarded.. if ANYTHING at all were to go down, my street fc would get a JZ setup....
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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V8=easy way out
Rotory=badass and cool!

But in the end it's what ever flots your boat. I don't hate v8's just wouldn't want one in a rx7.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenki FC3S
that fd is all over the place. he has been to cali and vegas recently...
its running a S375 at 20+ psi., dual wastegates(doesnt matter), and all kinds of crazy custom ****.

no doubt race gas (110+ octane) is recommended but that **** is too expensive.
yeah, that turbo wouldn't work in drifting.. way too much lag.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by slowgxl
V8=easy way out
Rotory=badass and cool!

But in the end it's what ever flots your boat. I don't hate v8's just wouldn't want one in a rx7.
Funny thing, I told my mom today that some people put V8's in RX-7s, and she said "Wouldn't that be like bastardizing the car?"

She said this and she isn't even a car fan.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jaggermouth
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Good to know. I can't wait to see what 500hp is like...hopefully
I got a ride in a 530 HP SW20 once... basically it's like riding a 750 cc street bike. The difference is that instead of holding on for dear life to the handlebars, you're being pushed into your seat.

Puts a smile on your face though. With a mixture of fear and excitement.
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