Buildup: 91 Vert, A-spec 500R + lots more.
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Originally Posted by trust7
Ok on a serious note, those tow hooks are for **** Juice, seriously you dont think those look good right ? I am being honest for once they look rice beyond PLEASE get rid of those.
I'm not done with these tow hooks. I'm gonna make some changes to really improve the look of them.
First the tow hooks are going to be pulled in closer to the bumpers so that about half the loop will be visible. Like this car which happens to use the same hooks(Super Now! car):

Then they will be anodized black or painted body color. Probably paint to match better. What you think?
Originally Posted by MaczPayne
That's sad news!
I wanted that trophy.
Originally Posted by SouthSideSlider
nice seat belts man 4,5,6 point? i have a single 6 point on sitting in my shead waiting for some nice seats.
Originally Posted by Rowtareh?
My only question is will you have it down in St.Louis in November for the Steve Kan dyno session? I want to see this marvel in person.
First the tow hooks are going to be pulled in closer to the bumpers so that about half the loop will be visible.Then they will be anodized black or painted body color. Probably paint to match better. What you think?
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Last edited by trust7; Aug 24, 2008 at 06:18 PM. Reason: left out quote box
Powder is still a "coating" hence the name, that is why I did not suggest it, anodizing is the ONLY "semi-inexspensive" process that is not a coating but a molecular level bonding, physical aluminum material would have to be removed for the color to be removed, in powder paint and any other type only the color layer can be damaged to remove material and have it look like crap.
Powdercoating is ok, but once it chips you have to remove the part, completely strip the old powdercoat, then re spray the part again, and you can only do the process so many times before the powder just stops sticking to the part.
I agree that anodizing the hooks would be the 'best' option since they will eventually see use, despite how we all would hate to see that big *** vert sitting on the side of the road.
Keep up the progress pics Juice, cant wait to see a finished beast.
I agree that anodizing the hooks would be the 'best' option since they will eventually see use, despite how we all would hate to see that big *** vert sitting on the side of the road.
Keep up the progress pics Juice, cant wait to see a finished beast.
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Interior(Carpet, Seats, Eventually FG dash) reinstall suspension, build & install engine & trans, rewire ecu and lots of electrical stuff, install Racelogic TCS and a shitload of little things.
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On Friday I picked up a ton of leftover parts from the shop. Our final order from Mazda came in today. It consisted of a buttload of weather stripping and seals and such. I dropped by the shop this morning to talk with the owner and they were working on installing all that. I picked up my painted & finished mirror shells so I could install the LEDs and mirror assembly. I should have those fully reassembled in the next few days. They think the car will be ready to leave the shop by the end of this week.
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Keep the tow hooks raw aluminum (or polish them) simply for the fact that they are more visible. Yours and others shins will thank you in the end. I think they look good too.
Fwiw, anodizing will scratch and scrape like any other coating. Also, if you ever need a tow, just use a tow strap and not a hook, that way, you eliminate the worry altogether.
Fwiw, anodizing will scratch and scrape like any other coating. Also, if you ever need a tow, just use a tow strap and not a hook, that way, you eliminate the worry altogether.
Ok! So there were a few things that I think needed to be tweaked on the front end. First was the lip. As provided the lip extends from one side of the car to the other, but it stops right at the front of the wheel arch.
Like this:

So the lip is being slightly extended to the end of the wheel arch:
Second was the front airdam & extra cutout above. The lower airdam had some notches and imperfections around the sides where the stock grille was cut out from it. Those areas were filled in to smooth out the area. The extra cutout above the airdam is also getting reworked. It is being rounded off to have lines and curves more like the lower airdam. I've also had them add an inner lip of 1 inch to it. The cutout for the front tow hook has also been added in this pic.
Unfinished pic:
Undercoating is done!!!


Seats finally showed up after some messed up delays!!!!!!!!
Since the undercoating is done, once the work on the bumper and lip are completed we're on to the final steps!
Like this:

So the lip is being slightly extended to the end of the wheel arch:
Second was the front airdam & extra cutout above. The lower airdam had some notches and imperfections around the sides where the stock grille was cut out from it. Those areas were filled in to smooth out the area. The extra cutout above the airdam is also getting reworked. It is being rounded off to have lines and curves more like the lower airdam. I've also had them add an inner lip of 1 inch to it. The cutout for the front tow hook has also been added in this pic.
Unfinished pic:
Undercoating is done!!!


Seats finally showed up after some messed up delays!!!!!!!!
Since the undercoating is done, once the work on the bumper and lip are completed we're on to the final steps!
what product did you use to undercoat?
Keep the tow hooks raw aluminum (or polish them) simply for the fact that they are more visible. Yours and others shins will thank you in the end. I think they look good too.
Fwiw, anodizing will scratch and scrape like any other coating. Also, if you ever need a tow, just use a tow strap and not a hook, that way, you eliminate the worry altogether.
Fwiw, anodizing will scratch and scrape like any other coating. Also, if you ever need a tow, just use a tow strap and not a hook, that way, you eliminate the worry altogether.
Of course you would, and no anodizing will not scratch and scrape like any other coating only speak when you know what your saying Dave.
acutsally he has a point a tow hook would remove some of the aluminum itself seeing as aluminum is a softer metal. now i dont like the polishing idea so much but realy its not our call.
When are we gonna see pics with the Teins and the wheels on!
I've been following this thread and love the car. Was never a fan of super wide kits, but I must admit, she is brilliant! I wouldn't drive her, but I sure as **** would stare at her fat *** all day long!!!!!!
I've been following this thread and love the car. Was never a fan of super wide kits, but I must admit, she is brilliant! I wouldn't drive her, but I sure as **** would stare at her fat *** all day long!!!!!!
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You don't need an interior to get tuned. All the other stuff is needed though. Damned fuel injection! Good luck man.
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Originally Posted by SouthSideSlider
my question is whats wider your Vert or that diablo?
Originally Posted by RX-Heven
Keep the tow hooks raw aluminum (or polish them) simply for the fact that they are more visible. Yours and others shins will thank you in the end. I think they look good too.
Originally Posted by E Dogg
what product did you use to undercoat?
Originally Posted by Napsterfreak15
are those toe tow hooks removable or collapsible?
Originally Posted by Rowtareh?
You don't need an interior to get tuned. All the other stuff is needed though. Damned fuel injection! Good luck man.
Originally Posted by 'Tyler [S5 FC
]When are we gonna see pics with the Teins and the wheels on!
Originally Posted by 'Tyler [S5 FC
]I've been following this thread and love the car. Was never a fan of super wide kits, but I must admit, she is brilliant! I wouldn't drive her, but I sure as **** would stare at her fat *** all day long!!!!!! 

Originally Posted by trust7
Of course you would, and no anodizing will not scratch and scrape like any other coating only speak when you know what your saying Dave.
Hard Anodizing is the ticket.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-hard-anodizing.htm
http://www.calphalon.com/calphalon/c...+does+it+do%3F
"Hard-Anodized aluminum is 30% harder than stainless steel."
"Hard anodizing also yields a product resistant to harsh weather, salt sprays and abrasive machining processes. Aluminum processed by hard anodizing can be only a few points away from the hardness of diamonds."
"Hard anodizing shares many characteristics with sulfuric anodizing, but the two processes have clearly different results. Hard anodizing creates a much thicker aluminum oxide surface with a stronger bond to the original aluminum layer."
Hard Anodized Black it is!
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How many race cars have I worked on that have anodized aluminum parts?
I assure you, more than you as I did it for a living for many years.
Have you even assembled or turned and -an fitting before?
Listen twerp, go find yourself any anodized aluminum and put a metal hook on it and apply 1500+ lbs of pressure such as a tow hook might see. It will scratch. Hard or soft, it doesn't matter.
How many race cars have I worked on that have anodized aluminum parts?
I assure you, more than you as I did it for a living for many years.
Have you even assembled or turned and -an fitting before?
How many race cars have I worked on that have anodized aluminum parts?
I assure you, more than you as I did it for a living for many years.
Have you even assembled or turned and -an fitting before?
First of all, I doubt it, highly, you are not the ******* master of all things, you just aren't, and for that matter neither am I, but I do know when to not open my mouth and just spout out **** for no reason, you however do not. For some reason you have had it out for me talking mad **** EVERY time I speak you have some smart *** bullshit reply and to be quite honest I dont take kindly to it, bet you wouldnt talk so much **** in person dude, bet a million on it.
Now for the relevant information, hard and regular anodizing, REGARDLESS of your wrench monkey *** turning AN fitting self or not DOES NOT SCRATCH, now if you are referring to scratching MATERIAL completely off that is an ENTIRELY different story and one I covered if you used your eyeballs and READ what I said earlier.
Powder VS Anodizing, powder is a COATING and can be scratched off anodizing is a molecular process that bonds color and material TO the original prepared aluminum which CAN NOT BE SCRATCHED OFF.
Anodizing, or anodising, is an electrolytic passivation process used to increase the thickness of the natural oxide layer on the surface of metal parts.
Anodization changes the microscopic texture of the surface and can change the crystal structure of the metal near the surface.
Talk to ANY anodizer and they will explain this to you in infinite detail, which I have done and also have spoken to MANY MANY people that are much smarter than you and I about this at length, hours upon hours reading and yes turning my OWN ******* wrenches on powder, anodizing, clearing, polishing, you name it if it has covered or changed a metal surface in relation to a Car, a Computer or a Home I have probably touched it and dealt with it.
As for your apparent personal issue with responding in some catty *** shitty way EVERY time I speak TO JUICE by the way stop, if you want to be a ******** do it in PRIVATE to me privately, period.
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I was doing some reading on hard anodizing earlier today and I came across some info that said that it increased the thermal conductivity. I had been thinking about anodizing my new Vmount IC before this. I wonder if it would make a measurable difference in intake temps.
From what I read I dont think so, I was considering doing the same thing, to be honest I think there are ALOT of other things that would be better/worse for the overall heat/intake temp levels.
Although as a side note my last personal FMIC I did in a polish look ceramic and it turned out real nice, the only downside to that is that your welds/bends better look CLEAN CLEAN because the ceramic mirror finish shows everything imperfection wise, but......obviously ceramic is the way to go for temp keeping the heat out/in whatever, but anodizing would look so nice and I think the 1-2deg difference would be worth it.


