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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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You know what I hate? No, I won't make you guess...

Signatures. That's right, the 40+ line, 8+ picture mini docudrama/infomercial that some people seem to think needs to be reposted every time they utter a new syllable.

Case in point...
93 Auto Black/Black Base with OEM/factory options including: Leather Seats / Cruise Control / R1 Front Lip / R1 Rear Wing / OEM Fog Lights / OEM Front Floor Mats / OEM S/S Door Sills / Rear Trunk Mat / Non-Bose Rear Trunk Cover.
WTF? Are we so unfamiliar with these cars that we need a reminder of what options a base model came with?!? I'm surprised he didn't list the wipers or the headlights.

Aftermarket Add-Ons and Mods: Pettit 3" S/S DP, 3" MP w/MagnaFlow Hi-Flow Cat, MagnaFlow S/S 3" Dual Cat Back, MagnaFlow S/S 3.5" Exhaust Tips, Blitz SUS Cold Air Intake System w/ Aluminum Hard Pipes, GReddy Compression Tube, GReddy IC Hard Pipe Kit, Vented Stock BOV, Silicone Vacuum Lines, (10-12/8-10 Boost Pattern), Aluminum 45mm Front Tower Strut Brace, Sparco 4-Point Safety Harness w/Mazdaspeed Harness Pads, Mazdaspeed Neck Pillows, GReddy Turbo Timer, Autometer Sport Comp Fuel Pressure & Boost Gauges on Dual Pillar Pod, 17x8 Enkei RPO2-J Wheels, 235/40/17 A520 Yokos, Koni Adj. Coil-Over Shocks, Carbon Fiber Wrap Around **** Pit, and much more to come……..
OK, a little better. Not sure why he's proud of his pizza cutter P235s on 17x8s, but whatever... must have swapped them over from his Honda or something.

It's still a laundry list, though. Who cares about silicone vacuum lines, his boost pattern, a strut tower brace, harness pads, neck pillows... do you know what this is? It's fluff. ******* FLUFF. He has no real mods after the exhaust, so he bores us to tears with a detailed list of his "almost-mods". Wow, we really needed to know all of this, especially the "much more to come" part, as if he hadn't included that nail-biting preview a couple lines later...

Parts/Items recently purchased, not yet installed:
- '99 JSpec Y-Pipe with Crossover Tube ( getting polished)
Two more lines wasted on a part out being polished. Who gives a ****? I mean, honestly...

Anticipated Mods: Apexi PFC / Brembo Cross Drilled-Slotted Rotors / GReddy FMIC / Engine components to be polished
Anticipated mods? His list wasn't already extensive enough that we need to know what he might get? This is absolutely pathetic. I've seen worse, but not by much. Christi's signature image where she labeled the front view of her car "front view" and the rear view of her car "rear view" is hard to top, though.

Bottom line, if I inflicted my list of mods on everyone with each post, you'd be clicking to the next page each time I posted. I think for starters, "auto-sig" should be disabled when people use the "Post Reply" text box at the bottom of a page, if possible. Most one-liner messages originate from there, more than likely, and we don't need to see someone's signature each time they post *****, in my opinion.

Second, there must be some way to police signatures. I usually report rogue signatures when I encounter them, but rarely see anything done about it. I'm sure moderators have better things to do, but when the bulk of someone's post volume is taken up by their signature, there's something wrong. Surely there must be some way to truncate their signature to X number of characters or lines when saving it?

And finally, if we're going to give people guidelines on how to use the search feature, let's make sure they know what's appropriate in a signature and what's not. I doubt most people have read the FAQ or could tell you how many lines or file sizes are allowed. A public awareness campaign is what's needed.

1. Signature rules
2. Using the search feature
3. How not to act like a jacklenack on your first day

Any other suggestions?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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You know what I hate? No, I won't make you guess...

Signatures. That's right, the 40+ line, 8+ picture mini docudrama/infomercial that some people seem to think needs to be reposted every time they utter a new syllable.
Likewise. Look at this ****:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=257382
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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My favorite has always been the "coming soon" mods too Heck, I'm going to go home and have dinner tonight, but I don't have to tell you about it first!

Personally my "coming soon" mod is a new turbine............from Pratt & Whitney
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by DamonB
My favorite has always been the "coming soon" mods too Heck, I'm going to go home and have dinner tonight, but I don't have to tell you about it first!
So... what are you having?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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There has to be as signature limit of some sort.

And removal of post count, that would be great!
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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1) I hate signatures. They take too damn long to load when you're running 56k (I run this at home). And as Jim mentioned,...some so-called "mods" are useless.

I might as well list the amount of bird $hit that is on my car. After all,...the weight from it, will give me more traction.

Personally, I recommend eliminating signatures. Or a better option. Confine them to the "Profiles" of members. Currently, I have my signature function turned off, but I don't see why people can't just add their list of modifications to their profile. In the end, it will save bandwidth.

2) Titles that are non-specific. Like the ones that say "Help me" or "I need help quick". We get these once in awhile. When I see this, I ask that the thread be re-named to be more specific. All they had to say was mention what the problem was regarding....ie: coolant problem, suspension related, etc.

Here is a PRIME example: "Problem need help"
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=275031

And I'm not mentioning the problems in the Classifieds section...
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by clayne
There has to be as signature limit of some sort.
Yep. Signatures can thwart the bullshit flag in the Kills forum, or they can help people get their problems diagnosed in the tech forums, but there's a not-so-fine line between "need to know" and "everything, including the kitchen sink" that people apparently just don't understand. Or care to, more likely.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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As far as sigs go, I think pictures and animated gifs should be banned. They are usually worthless and not even rx7 related. Sigs should have a maximum length limit.

I actually like it when people have useful sigs. I have been able to PM individuals about their experience with certain parts/mods that I'm interested in. I have tried to make my sig as compact as possible and use it more to provide info to people rather than from some need to show off.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by DomFD3S
Here is a PRIME example: "Problem need help"
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=275031
--> Birthday March 8, 1986

There's your problem.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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i like the sigs with the mod lists....sigs with pics are silly...though in the west forums it is all about the fun....those guys are crazy belligerents and are more about the community than the cars.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by jimlab
Yep. Signatures can thwart the bullshit flag in the Kills forum, or they can help people get their problems diagnosed in the tech forums, but there's a not-so-fine line between "need to know" and "everything, including the kitchen sink" that people apparently just don't understand. Or care to, more likely.
i agree here....the brands of vacuum hose listed so the mod list looks bigger is annoying.

they do it to make their list look big.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by artguy
i like the sigs with the mod lists....sigs with pics are silly...though in the west forums it is all about the fun....those guys are crazy belligerents and are more about the community than the cars.
That's being generous. Personally, I think most of them are a waste of oxygen. I remember when the West forum was actually useful....
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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i never knew that the west coast forum was useful at all.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by DomFD3S
2) Titles that are non-specific. Like the ones that say "Help me" or "I need help quick". We get these once in awhile. When I see this, I ask that the thread be re-named to be more specific. All they had to say was mention what the problem was regarding....ie: coolant problem, suspension related, etc.
I agree 110%.

One of my first tasks on joining any team is almost inevitably to "coerce" the testers into writing descriptive bugs, in plain English, particularly the titles. When you're in the final stage of a release and you have to triage 50 or 60 bugs every morning in an hour so everyone can get back to work, you've got better things to do than wasting time pondering what the tester might have meant or having to get them on the phone to explain. When the titles are ambiguous, you can't recognize duplicates as quickly either.

I tell them to write their bugs as if they were describing the problem for someone who knew nothing about the product or any of the technologies involved. In other words, write as if you were describing it to someone fresh in off the street, and make the title descriptive enough that you don't have to open the bug to find out what's being described. Eventually, we get to the point where everyone's pulling in the same direction, but you'd think this would be a common practice in the test world and enforced by their managers. Uh-uh.

We're back to laziness and forcing people to do a little work to help others help them. The fringe benefit of better writing is that the search function becomes more effective.

Speaking of the search function, my only complaint is that it does not pinpoint the page(s) in a multi-page thread that the search criteria appears on. I realize that this would mean more processing required, but I think some people actually do search but then give up because they don't want to dig through an 11-page thread (or whatever) trying to find what they're looking for. Highlighting the search words in red helps, but take my thread for example... 113 pages? Forget about it. I have my own Word doc that I use just to keep track of what pictures I've posted on what page so that when I need to use them again, I know right where to go.

Which saves more time and consumes less bandwidth? A more specific search engine, or the number of pages that have to be served for someone to dig through an umpteen page thread to find what they're looking for? If I had one thing that I'd like to see added, that would be it. If you can search for all of someone's posts and return that record set, then certainly you could return individual posts (instead of threads) in which the search criteria appear.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by jimlab


Second, there must be some way to police signatures. I usually report rogue signatures when I encounter them, but rarely see anything done about it. I'm sure moderators have better things to do, but when the bulk of someone's post volume is taken up by their signature, there's something wrong. Surely there must be some way to truncate their signature to X number of characters or lines when saving it?

Any other suggestions?
Jim, one problem i feel is that the moderators are limited in their "powers". even super mods are very limited. the other problem is that the admins that DO have the power to do something about it are never around, or dont do it. so how can we fix a problem with no support? we PM a user to change his sig, and he doesn't do anything about it. now we look like total idiots becasue we may say somethign in the PM request like "change it or it will be changed for you." the user doesnt change it, the mod that "threatened" them can't personaly do anything about it, posts it in the running thread for sig violations, and it doesn't get changed.... so why the hell would someone change their sig if it's not really going to be "changed for them"?
see what I am getting at?

oh and BTW, there has been recent discussion of sig pics no longer being allowed.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by clayne
--> Birthday March 8, 1986

There's your problem.
I think he was referring to ZeroBanger, actually.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by artguy
they do it to make their list look big.
I'd hate to see their resumes...
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
see what I am getting at?
Yeah. You think I should be made an uber-mod/admin with nearly unlimited powers for mayhem and destruction to make the sniveling turds toe the line... or were you thinking of something else?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by jimlab
Yeah. You think I should be made an uber-mod/admin with nearly unlimited powers for mayhem and destruction to make the sniveling turds toe the line... or were you thinking of something else?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by jimlab
Speaking of the search function, my only complaint is that it does not pinpoint the page(s) in a multi-page thread that the search criteria appears on.
When searching just click "show results as posts" and this will limit your hits to individual posts within threads.

Works for me?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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That's being generous. Personally, I think most of them are a waste of oxygen. I remember when the West forum was actually useful....
as much as they annoyed me when they first got their cars and took over the west forums, I learned to admire how they broughth the new people together into a tight little group. they organized bbq's and driving event stuff and that helps the community.

they even made me laugh a few times.

of course i felt like smashing them a few times too early on...but the thing that having picture sigs does do is it allows for some personality to come out.

this is a community here yes? personality in the community is a good thing. perhaps showing it with words instead of goofy pics in the sigs is the best way to do it...but the one thing I dont want to see is this forum become stale and stiff and boring.

people do come here for entertainment as much as they do to learn. right?

I would rather see a small sig pic limit than a total restriction. I am a visual person. I like seeing pics of peoples pups or pics of their cars...or hell..pics of their hottie with their car. all that stuff allows for group personality.

this is not a textbook. the single turbo forums are more textbook in value. the third gen is like the area specific forums and the lounge rolled into one. I actually like that in some ways.


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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by DamonB
When searching just click "show results as posts" and this will limit your hits to individual posts within threads.

Works for me?
Holy crap, something I didn't know. Everyone mark this on your calendars.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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I can see your point, Artguy, but I can picture about three different member's sigs right now that have a picture that literally takes up 1/3 of my monitor -- and they attach it with every worthless post-whoring post.

That said, I can hardly complain about Godzilla's sig...
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Holy crap, something I didn't know. Everyone mark this on your calendars.
damon you are amazing....i agree with jim again...twice in a day...it must be the apocolypse.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Likewise. Look at this ****:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=257382
Dude - sorry, the only thing I noticed was the woman in Batmobile's sig hehe. Yeah, let's ban pics in sigs (but only after I save that pic to my harddrive first).
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