Alright jim and mahjik; I got you.

Again using the third gen section as an example you're going to have two third gen sections; one advanced and one "your post is too dumb to warrant posting in the advanced section so it's here" where the advanced section mod will stuff everything he doesn't deem fit? I still find that heavy handed.

Fortunately or unfortunately this board is only as good as its users. There are many of us who are not impressed with the majority of this board's content and would like to do away with the "dumbing down" of the board by either eliminating users, locking posts, higher admissions requirements for posters or whatever. But I think everyone must admit that there is a very large percentage of users everywhere on this board who enjoy posting pics of their catback, discussing JDM only mods or arguing over points of interest they don't really understand and that those users outnumber the "experienced" ones by a wide margin. With that in mind who is the board here to serve and what is its purpose?

I think you must give up and leave well enough alone. It's been proven without a doubt that the people who truly run things here are not interested in seeing the board go in any other direction. If they did we wouldn't be discussing such things by ourselves all the time.

 

Fair enough. So where can I find the best price on a motec system exhaust?

 

"If this forum isn't utilized the way it was intended and defined, this forum is not worth having. So, to all you "little dogs" out there, you will probably want this forum to be available for when you are "big dogs". "

I think that pretty much sums it up.

 

hmmm, am i a big dog or little dog

 

ooohhhhh can i be a German Shepard, thats a big dog right?

 

I don't see a reason to limit this to just the FD sections - I'm sure the FC and SA guys have their share of issues (although SA much less).

There NEEDS to be heavy handedness at this point.

Correct. You don't eat your broccolli, you don't leave the table. You don't do your homework, you get grounded over the weekend.

If the board is here to service ignorance and vapidity I'll be one of the first people to hop on the "seeya!" train out of here.

That sounds very disillusioning Damon.

I have the resources to do it, are we going to have to start our own board now? :-/ I really hope that manifest destiny is NOT group-think blindness for a greater Net Income Good.

 

www.rx7club2.com

 

Hi guys,

I have been on vacation, and am very surprised that this thread is still going. What a bunch of post ****** you are j/k

I think Damon has a good point. The sponsors don't want to see too many of the newbies chased away. The newbies/youngsters are the ones who are spending the most money on mods. The allmighty dollar has spoken.

I have not posted much on this thread because it didn't seem like much would be accomplished. I think I was right.

 

Hi Adam, nice to see you again, we've missed your informed posts and this topic is related to a loss of those kind of posts.

Does anyone else have anything to share about the money issue?

 

clayne, I agree with your premise. But you must be realistic: these kinds of choices for the forum are not made by the Mods. You have to take your argument to someone capable of doing something about it and that's not the users or Mods. The Mods can only do what we have support from the top to implement.

The Mods are like the judicial system: We don't make the rules we just interpret and enforce the ones already in place.

 

In my opinion, one of the main problems with our society in general is that we're making every effort to "dumb down" everything for the lowest common denominator. Instructions in English and Spanish everywhere you turn. Renaming sports mascots and rewriting history books so that no one will be offended or ashamed of our actual history. Non-competitive, non-contact sports for fragile little children that might have their bodies, or worse, sensitivities hurt. Schools where the top 25% of the class get straight 4.00 averages because we want our children to feel good about themselves without learning any responsibility. They even took the pistols off the Jungle Cruise boats at Disneyland because it sent the "wrong message" to shoot at the hippos... Where the hell does it end?

I think most of the veterans just get tired of feeling like they're being taken advantage of. There's no pay involved, so taking the time to answer someone's question is purely voluntary. The people who "demand" answers are the worst... it's been 2 hours and no one has answered my question... it's been another hour and no one has answered my question... well that does it, you're all a bunch of ********!

You'd at least like to see people do the minimum amount of work for themselves before flopping themselves down and basically saying "I can't do it... do it for me". Case in point...

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=277627

The same laziness I see evident in people's unwillingness to search for themselves I also see in their unwillingness to use proper grammar and spelling. If you're going to ask for help, help others to help you. Save your "l33t sp33k" bullshit for the lounge. If you come here for help, take a little effort to make a good presentation, and at least make an effort to help yourself first. Then I don't think the veterans would be so irritated by all the newer members...

 

Yep.

By answering the questions and doing the homework for the original person one ends up indirectly and directly supporting complacency.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with putting a dead stop to it and saying "no more." Who will it affect? The main offenders. Why should we be so concerned about how it affects the main violators? People will be lazy if you let them. That does not mean just let it happen because it's "natural."

And this is coming from a 27 year old liberal dem!

Look at the FD section right now. It is worse than it has ever been.

 

I bet if we closed down the Generation specific sections right now and did a thorough indexing of the posts, almost every answer to anyones question would be answered through a search....

I say close it down to read only, make a new forum for advanced topics and moderate the **** out of the new section so that no "old" question is asked...

 

I know look at the newest thread.. "looking to modify a 93 rx7 any ideas?" Seriously you'd think someone could at least try to make the letters on the newbie sticky more attention getting by making them blink/flash, or having them be in much larger letters then all of the other threads.. That thread has 17,000 views so it may have helped a little but maybe even not letting it "blend in" as much would be a start..

It's obvious as I think DamonB was saying.. The ideas are being seen by the people who make the changes but the people who make the changes seem to be more concerned with other things.. Because the "experianced" who hang out in the 3rd gen section are few and far between..

 

I think there is more combined experience from posters on this page than half the 3rd gen section put together....

 

True, none of the new members seem to care about making a good first impression...

I think another one of our problems is we tolerate the god awful posts made by some newbies... I think if a post is incomplete, not able to be read, in all caps, it's something that has been asked time and time again, or just plain not waiting for an answer then the member should be pm'd, asked politely to search first or post in the correct manor(of course with a general message stating rules that could be mailed to anyone) and then the post should be deleted.. This would take alot of moderating but just an idea..

 

There is a problem w/ general laziness. People expect answers to come to them on a silver platter.

People used to say "Search". (Heck, I used to say it). Now, it has come to the point where I literally tell them HOW to search...in an effort to encourage the use of the search function.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...t=click+search

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=search

Even then,...there are tons of threads asking for "does any have a picture of "x" on a FD?" "How does the this exhaust sound?"

These tend to be my fave ones: "I want the BEST "x" for the CHEAPEST price".

People seem to forget that this is the "TECH" section. I would love to see photos of cars evey so often, but the amount of non-tech stuff is just awful...

And to be honest, I find the 2nd gen section to be much worse. A lot of more posts than this section, and even fewer w/ "interesting" material in them.

There isn't a simple solution...

 

I say just outright close the threads. People will then begin to think or SEARCH before posting.

If they have a problem with the heavy handedness perhaps they should ask themselves why they were lazy in the first place?

Allowing in this case is enabling the problem.

 

I agree, if threads start getting closed they will see it as a waste of time to post the question, and find it easier to just click the search button and type it in there.

Its a matter of having the "modpower" (manpower) to get all the threads closed that don't belong. Alot of times i see alot of people on with no mods on. The current amount of mods can't handle it all.

 

So which one do you guys want to be?

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I would also like to see some grammatical/spelling corrector.

If someone posts a question "Can u tel me wut Bov is loudest?" I just plain ignore it. I CANT stand stupid 'leet' speak crap and will ignore any post made by someone using it.

If you want us to answer your questions and help you out, use proper english, not some ghettlo slang crap. I refuse to try and read any post in that manner, unless the person has Europe or something listed as location, as then they might not be familiar with the language.

 

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True... This is a job for jimlab...


Since moderators don't get paid you "can't" actually make certain shifts that they have to be online moderating though. Just wouldn't be fair that way to glue someone to the forum for a set "shift". So really no way to secure that there will always be a moderator actually "moderating"

 

I would like to suggest that people be more specific in their titles.

If a title isn't specific, I would like to recommend that it be deleted. Quite frankly, when I run a search, I get a number of results. But the problem is, the titles are non-specific, and that requires an extra click just to see if the result is the one I want. Add this to a bunch of search results, and it DEFINITELY becomes a needle in a haystack.

Heck, if I want to direct someone towards a thread, I have to weed through all of the ones that are not helpful first....

Threads titled like this:"At what point"
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=277656

 

Dom,

While searching specify return results as posts and not threads.

Damon already clued us into this one earlier and it has saved us much time.